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21 hours ago, SNSUN said:

I can’t see Leicester dropping enough points for us to catch them either. Maybe, had they lost KDH in the window perhaps but not now, so absolutely I hope they smash Leeds who are, IMO, our only rivals for second. No disrespect to Ipswich as they have done brilliantly this season but I’ve thought for a while they’d drop off. I do think they’ll linger behind us like a bad smell but not close enough to worry. We’ll be 2nd or 3rd and even 3rd I think we win the play-offs. Rather 2nd though without the lottery.

Ipswich are right near the foot of the last ten games current form league 

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16 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Thank you Chez, out match thread is now live.

Can't believe you've missed our most famous supporter off your "well known fans" list....

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20 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

It's not about gloating. It's about the experience. 

We've gone up in second. 

We've never won a playoff. 

And how many sides outside the top few can say they've seen their side lift two trophies at new wembley? 

So you’d enjoy a day out and a piss up rather than the certainty of going up 1st or 2nd ?

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43 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

I'm a fan of Sulemana too but if you look at the output of both Edozie and Fraser, they've both outperformed Sulemana.  I think he'll need to win his place back and I would have him as a sub option for now, plus Edozie is a little further ahead in terms of fitness.

Yeah I agree the other two have done more this season. But don’t forget sulemana’s season has been heavily disrupted with injury at the start and then the later one..

whilst you are right that the other two have contributed more. I think this guy has an insanely high ceiling with his pace and skills he can fly past anyone and can be terrifying for defenders.if we can get him going and get his confidence soaring sky is the limit for him .

We need to be carefull how to handle our talents with so much competition. Don’t want him getting frustrated and getting another alcaraz situation (same goes for the others ) so maybe a bit of rotation with the attacking players  is the way to go 

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59 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

A player played for both sides… standup Richard Dryden, now there’s a player!

I think he ‘played’ about 50 games over five years for Saints and when not injured was pretty clueless. 

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5 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Hello from a Bristol City fan

Probably too late for you but here's a few random recollections , as living up in Glos this is a fixture that I've kept a bit of a watch on over the last 50 odd years, but the matches have been quite infrequent.

Before I started going, Mick Channon made his debut at The Dell against Bristol City, on Easter Monday 1966, and scored. Remarkable thing in those days was the arranging of fixtures so that we'd played you and lost at Ashton Gate on Good Friday. Unusually no fixture on the Saturday in between. (Listen to Klopp and Wenger bleat about fixture congestion... ).

The first match I saw between Bristol City and Saints was Ashton Gate in September 1974. We'd just been relegated but were expected to bounce back with Channon and Osgood leading the charge. we made a poor start, but the week before playing City we beat Pompey 2-1 at The Dell (pretty ill tempered match on and off the pitch). Hoped we'd turned the corner, and in midweek I think we won at Glasgow Rangers in the Texaco Cup. All looking positive but Saints did what they've done many times and get your hopes up only to let them down again.

We lost 2-0 at Ashton Gate, my first visit there. I think (and it would be good if one of your Statto's could confirm this) Geoff Merrick scored for you, (or his shot was deflected in and it was an OG). I think him scoring was a bit of a collectors item, from what some City fans around us said (no segregation in those days). If he didn't score he certainly celebrated in front of us (remember the typical 1970's perm and moustache... ). That and the Dolman Stand opposite were the two lasting recollections of the game (I think the Dolman was one of the first cantilever stands, not sure if Bristol City or Swindon were first).

Bristol City were putting a decent team together at the time under Alan Dicks. After City's promotion I remember seeing a feature in the press, all 22 First Division managers asked questions on hopes for season, players to watch, who they expected to win the league type of bollocks. Final question was which manager they most admired and why. Most trotted out the usual suspects, Sir Alf, Revie, Shankly, Busby. Alan Dicks response was Ted Bates at Southampton for doing a fantastic job building a club on limited resources. Much respect for Mr Dicks thereafter from me. 

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More ramblings from an old cunt:

I remember winning there 1-0 in 1979. Friday night fixture days before Christmas.

It was real brass monkey weather. Suspect the ground will be a bit more crowded tomorrow. 

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Brizzle Presser

  • Flynn will miss tomorrow but wont be out for long
  • As positive considering what he felt on the pitch, same with Che
  • Joe should fly back tomorrow, very disappointed for him
  • I hope he feels he had a brilliant experience, we watched the final, looking forward to speaking with him
  • Really looking forward to having him back and should be in the squad Friday, all being well
  • All the players are winners inside, they have certain qualities
  • They understand that it is not easy to pick a team and leave people out
  • I hope that my honesty works, just be honest with them, and hope it works
  • There is an appreciation that we are all doing this together, they all have a chance to make an impact
  • They have a chance to be part of something huge, and they all support each other
  • If we continue this, it will take us a long way
  • The fact we would normally be well clear in the top 2, but the top 4 and WBA have been brilliant, and the teams just below them
  • The top half is so strong, with quality coaches in this league. This is a good Championship season
  • We have to use the frustration that we have been on such a brilliant run, but we are needing to do so much more work
  • we will keep growing and hitting every challenge head on, and keep building
  • We are still frustrated at some of the draws we have had
  • Huddersfield were brilliant Sat, their approach was fantastic
  • The first half was not right again, it was my fault as I got the start all wrong
  • If I had the opportunity I would sign brooksy forever. There is no option at the moment
  • He is even better than I thought. He is real quality and class, I cannot speak highly of him and Joe Rothwell
  • You watch Brooksy, he is just so good, we spoke to people about him and was told to get him straight away
  • Unsure if anything changes for this week, nothing changes, it is just 2 away games to tough teams
  • I do not feel anything different, we take each game as it comes, it will be a big challenge on Fri
  • This is a tough week, but they are all tough
  • Sat should be a brilliant reminder that it is not easy, there will be more difficult moments like saturday
  • Bristol City are very good in transition, they are very athletic, work hard, can mix the game up
  • The game at the weekend was huge for them, and the won, they will take energy from that
  • we must play the game on our terms, not try but do it, and we will play in front of 1000s of our fans

 

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3 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

"Absolutely. A surprisingly arrogant set of supporters given that other than one FA cup in the mid-70s and a football league trophy they've won **** all. Which for a club of their size and given the amount of time they've spent in the top flight is a bit shit."

Obviously we have some bellends who support us but as a fanbase are we really that arrogant to give this person that impression? It's not like we were telling everyone we were going to win the league this season, in fact a lot of people thought we'd end up being a bit crap.

They are right about the number of trophies we've won, we all know that.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, The Cat said:

"Absolutely. A surprisingly arrogant set of supporters given that other than one FA cup in the mid-70s and a football league trophy they've won **** all. Which for a club of their size and given the amount of time they've spent in the top flight is a bit shit."

Obviously we have some bellends who support us but as a fanbase are we really that arrogant to give this person that impression? It's not like we were telling everyone we were going to win the league this season, in fact a lot of people thought we'd end up being a bit crap.

They are right about the number of trophies we've won, we all know that.

 

 

Yet a city the size of Bristol, what have they achieved ?  Really can’t understand why they haven’t spent more time in the top flight, they certainly have the fan base.

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2 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

Yet a city the size of Bristol, what have they achieved ?  Really can’t understand why they haven’t spent more time in the top flight, they certainly have the fan base.

It's almost as if there isn't only one team in Bristol, as their forum name suggests.

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28 minutes ago, The Cat said:

"Absolutely. A surprisingly arrogant set of supporters given that other than one FA cup in the mid-70s and a football league trophy they've won **** all. Which for a club of their size and given the amount of time they've spent in the top flight is a bit shit."

Obviously we have some bellends who support us but as a fanbase are we really that arrogant to give this person that impression? It's not like we were telling everyone we were going to win the league this season, in fact a lot of people thought we'd end up being a bit crap.

They are right about the number of trophies we've won, we all know that.

 

 

Interesting discussions on there about Leeds being brilliant and only getting better, versus Saints who 'are what [they] are'.

Be fascinating to see their opinion after tomorrow night.

Can only see a win for us. It'll be plain sailing.

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They’re not even the best sports team in their city - that’s the rugby, if they want to use the yardstick of winning things.

As for saying Southampton and Hampshire is a borefest, Bristol has a livelier culture scene but both cities have major universities, they have even worse crime than Soton and the really nice countryside is an hour away either side (Mendip/Cotswolds/Black Mts and Brecon Beacons). Severn and Southampton estuaries score draw, Soton has IOW and the Forest, they have Severn Beach and the bridges. Bristol has its good points and uses, especially if you live in the nice suburbs eg Clifton, Thornbury. Good place to work, and more options than Soton. Both cities have horrific traffic systems. 

If we don’t get promotion in the first two seasons, they are what we are in danger of becoming as a club bobbing around in mid-table.

Be careful on the way to the stadium - some Saints fans were attacked last time we went there in the league.
 

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13 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

What one or two posters? It gets started by some twat saying he prefers Pompey - nuff said.

Once Wade Garrett builds up a head of steam he’s gonna reel in a few beauties from over there :lol:

1 hour ago, Badger said:

More ramblings from an old cunt:

I remember winning there 1-0 in 1979. Friday night fixture days before Christmas.

It was real brass monkey weather. Suspect the ground will be a bit more crowded tomorrow. 

Me and a few mates went to that, memory suggests there may have been a bit of snow around that day - we jumped on a coach near to the Warrens. Can’t remember who arranged it.

The away end back then was a big open terrace, the same end ours will be in tomorrow, but a bit different these days. (Failing) memory says we lost 1-0 but you’re probably right.

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4 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Yeah I agree the other two have done more this season. But don’t forget sulemana’s season has been heavily disrupted with injury at the start and then the later one..

whilst you are right that the other two have contributed more. I think this guy has an insanely high ceiling with his pace and skills he can fly past anyone and can be terrifying for defenders.if we can get him going and get his confidence soaring sky is the limit for him .

We need to be carefull how to handle our talents with so much competition. Don’t want him getting frustrated and getting another alcaraz situation (same goes for the others ) so maybe a bit of rotation with the attacking players  is the way to go 

Each to their own, I see him as a pound shop Adama Traore at the moment. 

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I remember losing 1 nil to them at Ashton Gate in the late 60s. FA cup. One of the first matches that I went to. I was pretty awe struck and couldn't believe I was there.😁😁

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They’re not even the best sports team in their city - that’s the rugby, if they want to use the yardstick of winning things.

As for saying Southampton and Hampshire is a borefest, Bristol has a livelier culture scene but both cities have major universities, they have even worse crime than Soton and the really nice countryside is an hour away either side (Mendip/Cotswolds/Black Mts and Brecon Beacons). Severn and Southampton estuaries score draw, Soton has IOW and the Forest, they have Severn Beach and the bridges. Bristol has its good points and uses, especially if you live in the nice suburbs eg Clifton, Thornbury. Good place to work, and more options than Soton. Both cities have horrific traffic systems. 

If we don’t get promotion in the first two seasons, they are what we are in danger of becoming as a club bobbing around in mid-table.

Be careful on the way to the stadium - some Saints fans were attacked last time we went there in the league.
 

Especially if you park anywhere near Bedminster.

If you get lost and end up in Hartcliff, don't even bother asking for directions as you won't have a clue what the answer is.

If you come in from the North of the city / M32 then you will need to cross the ulez at some point so make sure your car is compliant or mad Marvin will want your money!

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1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Once Wade Garrett builds up a head of steam he’s gonna reel in a few beauties from over there :lol:

Me and a few mates went to that, memory suggests there may have been a bit of snow around that day - we jumped on a coach near to the Warrens. Can’t remember who arranged it.

The away end back then was a big open terrace, the same end ours will be in tomorrow, but a bit different these days. (Failing) memory says we lost 1-0 but you’re probably right.

I was there to. Absiluteky freezing on that terrace.  It snowed heavy at half time and the second half was delayed by about 20 mins. I think Channon got our winner.

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With Leeds away at Swansea tonight, I'm disappointed to not see our notorious firm planning a right tear up at a strategically selected M4 services.

Could get proper naughty and no mistake.

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17 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

With Leeds away at Swansea tonight, I'm disappointed to not see our notorious firm planning a right tear up at a strategically selected M4 services.

Could get proper naughty and no mistake.

"Krispy Kreme gets a kicking as the nawty boys meet up at Cardiff Gate".  The headlines write themselves.

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12 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

I love the guy who said we are arrogant and he prefers Pompey. Pompey the self titled greatest fans in the world, one of footballs great clubs, the sleeping giant, the club with a history and tradition to match anyone in the world, nothing arrogant about them at all 

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1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

With Leeds away at Swansea tonight, I'm disappointed to not see our notorious firm planning a right tear up at a strategically selected M4 services.

Could get proper naughty and no mistake.

Do the SAS post on the Daily Mail their plan before a mission? Why would you expect the DEF to advertise what they are doing.

As for Bristol City last time we played them their firm locked themselves in the pub and planted a couple of Afghan  kids outside in shirts outside to try to fool the DEF was family pub with nothing to see here. Low Behaviour even by their standards. 

 

All I’ll say to you is expect the DEF to live up to the motto strike,  strike hard, no mercy tonight. I also hear the coffee and Leigh Delmere is awful so best avoid it. Make of that what you will

 

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12 hours ago, sfc4prem said:

Can only see a win for us. It'll be plain sailing.

 

12 hours ago, The Cat said:

 

Obviously we have some bellends who support us but as a fanbase are we really that arrogant to give this person that impression? It's not like we were telling everyone we were going to win the league this season

 

 

The post above might give fuel to their view of us.

A lot depends on individual supporters you’ve worked with and met. Most Spurs fans I’ve met have been gobby fuckers so that’s the lasting impression. Probably unfair and in truth it’s only about 97% of them who are like that. 

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We need to start far better than we have done the last couple of games. Feel like this could be a tight game won by the odd goal. Don’t give them something to defend 

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31 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Do the SAS post on the Daily Mail their plan before a mission? Why would you expect the DEF to advertise what they are doing.

As for Bristol City last time we played them their firm locked themselves in the pub and planted a couple of Afghan  kids outside in shirts outside to try to fool the DEF was family pub with nothing to see here. Low Behaviour even by their standards. 

 

All I’ll say to you is expect the DEF to live up to the motto strike,  strike hard, no mercy tonight. I also hear the coffee and Leigh Delmere is awful so best avoid it. Make of that what you will

 

That Leeds fans are fucking stupid and don't know the best way to get to Swansea?

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14 minutes ago, Badger said:

 

The post above might give fuel to their view of us.

A lot depends on individual supporters you’ve worked with and met. Most Spurs fans I’ve met have been gobby fuckers so that’s the lasting impression. Probably unfair and in truth it’s only about 97% of them who are like that. 

It's not arrogance to expect us to beat Bristol. Is it arrogance to expect Leicester and Leeds to win tonight as well?

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

It's not arrogance to expect us to beat Bristol. Is it arrogance to expect Leicester and Leeds to win tonight as well?

I suspect opponents might see describing it as plain sailing as arrogant.

Saints fans certainly regarded comments from Man Utd fans and the like of Sir Bobby Charlton in 1976 saying they’d win 6-0 as arrogant and dismissive at the time.

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Other forums can be amusing to look at occasionally when clubs are in meltdown but taking umbridge from an individual posting from other teams is a slippery slope. Look how many daft twats we have on here! It is the same everywhere

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Remember getting tea poured over me at this ground when we scored a consolation and we had a bundle. It was about this time of year I think so it went from scorching hot to unbearably cold in a matter of seconds.

Yusef Safri was sent off and nobody had a clue until the day after. Whether the ref lost his cards or something I don't know but no one noticed him actually getting sent off.

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59 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

That Leeds fans are fucking stupid and don't know the best way to get to Swansea?

They would likely get delayed at the wonderful Gloucester Services, distracted by the delightful retail displays of local quality produce and other goodies, with all thoughts of a pre arranged rumble tempered by some of the eye watering prices. Just need one of them to get a sniff of the excellent Steak and Ale pie and the whole impending fracas will just fizzle out.

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Massive doses of humility required all around. 


It concerns me the number of puff pieces Russ is getting in the press atm and the nominations for manager of the month etc. it’s a good thing but also it can backfire. 

Im hoping him and team start this match better than the last two- and that’s by EARNING the right to be regarded as the better team in the pitch - not by “ reputation” or fancy names on the team sheet. 
With captains like JS around I’m confident that’s going to be the case - but the minute we start believing “ we are better than these” , expect to just turn up to win we will get battered. 
This team were not beaten by Nottn forest over two matches so they are no mugs. And at home especially. We only beat them with a wonder goal last time. Make no mistake - very tough match. Sleeves up and work your bollix off time you want to get anything out of this one. 

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9 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Massive doses of humility required all around. 


It concerns me the number of puff pieces Russ is getting in the press atm and the nominations for manager of the month etc. it’s a good thing but also it can backfire. 

Im hoping him and team start this match better than the last two- and that’s by EARNING the right to be regarded as the better team in the pitch - not by “ reputation” or fancy names on the team sheet. 
With captains like JS around I’m confident that’s going to be the case - but the minute we start believing “ we are better than these” , expect to just turn up to win we will get battered. 
This team were not beaten by Nottn forest over two matches so they are no mugs. And at home especially. We only beat them with a wonder goal last time. Make no mistake - very tough match. Sleeves up and work your bollix off time you want to get anything out of this one. 

He's never won one though has he? Always the bridesmaid, always heroic failure. He fits right in.

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18 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Massive doses of humility required all around. 


It concerns me the number of puff pieces Russ is getting in the press atm and the nominations for manager of the month etc. it’s a good thing but also it can backfire. 

Im hoping him and team start this match better than the last two- and that’s by EARNING the right to be regarded as the better team in the pitch - not by “ reputation” or fancy names on the team sheet. 
With captains like JS around I’m confident that’s going to be the case - but the minute we start believing “ we are better than these” , expect to just turn up to win we will get battered. 
This team were not beaten by Nottn forest over two matches so they are no mugs. And at home especially. We only beat them with a wonder goal last time. Make no mistake - very tough match. Sleeves up and work your bollix off time you want to get anything out of this one. 

You reckon the players or the manager would have that attitude? I don't. I don't think they ever would.

Fans on the other hand can have whatever fucking attitude they see fit.

We're going to win.

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12 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

I remember losing 1 nil to them at Ashton Gate in the late 60s. FA cup. One of the first matches that I went to. I was pretty awe struck and couldn't believe I was there.😁😁

I was there too. First away match. As I've mentioned before it was scary for my 9 year old self to be surrounded by so many who sounded like they were pirates. They f**king looked like them as well.

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very nervous for this one. Despite our incredible run we still need to keep winning as Leeds have a very easy run of fixtures now.

Have watched City a few times as local, they are playing better under Manning, but quite honestly no one from their starting 11 gets in ours. But they are hardworking. It is vital we are out the blocks quick like we were at Swansea. I think the run comes to an end Friday but tonight will be a hard fought 2-1 win.

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Hope I’m wrong probably am so forgive my overthinking it but my somethings up / complacency radar is going off a little.
 

Other stuff is maybe getting in the way. Maybe even some squad resentment that RM seems to get all the glory but but they sweated for it.

All submerged under the drive to go up of course and all the words and actions contradict that narrative of course -but the kind of little fissures that can grown into big cracks if not dealt with seem to be there.

For example the players taking the pee out of the RM fist pump celebration with Wee man few matches back hinted at that. That the team has been bollocked- and he told us he’d done so- at halftime the other week May irk. That supposedly the big match day emphasis is on not sloppy starting and yet two matches running that’s exactly what weve done - like the players been told and gone - duck it I’m not doing that. 

Just tiny probably nothing making something out of nothing little signs that got me a little questioning. 99% I’m wrong and the professional manager and professional players know and will do what’s required to win. Here’s hoping for a great result tonight! COYS😇

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3 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Hope I’m wrong probably am so forgive my overthinking it but my somethings up / complacency radar is going off a little.
 

Other stuff is maybe getting in the way. Maybe even some squad resentment that RM seems to get all the glory but but they sweated for it.

All submerged under the drive to go up of course and all the words and actions contradict that narrative of course -but the kind of little fissures that can grown into big cracks if not dealt with seem to be there.

For example the players taking the pee out of the RM fist pump celebration with Wee man few matches back hinted at that. That the team has been bollocked- and he told us he’d done so- at halftime the other week May irk. That supposedly the big match day emphasis is on not sloppy starting and yet two matches running that’s exactly what weve done - like the players been told and gone - duck it I’m not doing that. 

Just tiny probably nothing making something out of nothing little signs that got me a little questioning. 99% I’m wrong and the professional manager and professional players know and will do what’s required to win. Here’s hoping for a great result tonight! COYS😇

I think you're barking up the wrong tree with this. Russ said in his PC yesterday that he takes full responsibility for the way we started on Saturday. He threw himself under the bus, rather than his players.

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I think you're barking up the wrong tree with this. Russ said in his PC yesterday that he takes full responsibility for the way we started on Saturday. He threw himself under the bus, rather than his players.

Yup he did indeed and that was very reassuring. He always takes personal responsibility and he also praises his players lavishly. With emotive language like “ love”. I’m 99% probably wrong to think things getting a little frazzled on the edges. Onwards and upwards! 

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28 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

You reckon the players or the manager would have that attitude? I don't. I don't think they ever would.

I’d love to believe that’s true and for outward public consumption purposes I’m totally confident that it is. But humans are fallible and pride and ego sometimes can fuck yiu up despite good intentions 

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14 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It's almost as if there isn't only one team in Bristol, as their forum name suggests.

Everyone here knows there are three… City, Rovers and Manor Farm.

Bristol football suffers from the tribalism in the city. The Somerset/Gloucs, City/Rovers, Taunton or Thatchers/Bulmers divides everything - it’s very much  two cities divided by the river, or more a series of villages that have all joined together.  

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