SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Just now, Badger said: * only if and when fit perhaps Could say that about anyone. I wouldn’t sign him, FWIW.
Badger Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 4 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Could say that about anyone. I wouldn’t sign him, FWIW. Yes you could. But I’d be inclined to factor their injury record into the decision making. ‘No’ from me largely for that reason as well.
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Indeed, and we can’t loan him because his contract expires next summer. Potential loan move links haven’t materialised yet, but you’d imagine we’d be in for a couple to save ££’s. The loans will be where our big, side quality improving signings come from IMO. But we'll need to be patient and wait until the back end of August. 1
Chez Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 9 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Indeed, and we can’t loan him because his contract expires next summer. Potential loan move links haven’t materialised yet, but you’d imagine we’d be in for a couple to save ££’s. why does that mean we cant loan him?
Chez Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, Lighthouse said: We’ve got more ‘options’ than you can poke a stick at. What we don’t have are more than three players who are good enough for the PL; KWP, THB and Taylor and one of them could be leaving. In truth, we don't even know if THB is good enough yet. His errors weren't punished last season. They will be this. Its going t be very interesting to see how he and AA (coming in off the right where he looked far better) perform. 2
Miltonaggro Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 16 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: The Wellington transfer is such a non-Saintsy signing. Definitely a club signing than a Russell Martin signing. I can’t imagine he does much scouting of the Brazilian league. 😂 Judging by the geometric facial hair I’d wager that Russell is a connoisseur of the Brazilian league.
Midfield_General Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 8 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Judging by the geometric facial hair I’d wager that Russell is a connoisseur of the Brazilian league. Apparently when he shows off his Hollywood balls in training it's quite something to behold
waylander Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: West ham itk apparently saying ings has turned us down. Odd how the link keeps resurfacing if he's never had any intention of coming here. Real one or wannabe?
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: He's on somewhere between £120-135k per week apparently. We'd need him to drop that by 60-70% before he's affordable to us, which he obviously won't do. I can't see WHU subsidising any wage that much either. I know football is a short career etc, but I can't help wondering at the point Ings retires, and he looks back on his career does he really think he has achieved much. I know he played at Liverpoool etc and had a few nasty injuries, but it seems he has put money before playing actual games. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I know football is a short career etc, but I can't help wondering at the point Ings retires, and he looks back on his career does he really think he has achieved much. I know he played at Liverpoool etc and had a few nasty injuries, but it seems he has put money before playing actual games. He's living the dream. Maximum earning for minimum effort. He's only human, after all. 4
Dusic Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: This is the Bournemouth team which started their first game back in the PL two seasons ago. Beat Villa 2-0 and stayed up comfortably that season. How many of those players were good enough for the PL at the time (or even now)? Yes we need a new striker or 2, CM, RB potentially and a winger, but we will sign more players. However we shouldnt write off the players who were relegated with us before and have had a great season in the EFL winning games and building their confidence. Quite a few of them will be good enough for the PL. Continuity counts for alot rather than making mass changes. Understand this point of view but the PL advances all the time. Aside from the 3 promoted sides the weakest teams in theory are Forest and Brentford. Yet both of those have 3 or 4 attacking players that are better than any of ours. I fully expect some of our promoted lads to be pretty decent but even the most optimistic fan surely realises we need some major quality to be added in attack to even have a chance. Our best CF is about to leave on a free and our only reliable scorer last season struggled hugely at this level last time. IMO its those signings that will determine our fate. 2
FarehamSaintJames Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 3 hours ago, Master Bates said: https://x.com/JustSaints_/status/1809883259276263649 Naa you’re alright
Lighthouse Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: This is the Bournemouth team which started their first game back in the PL two seasons ago. Beat Villa 2-0 and stayed up comfortably that season. How many of those players were good enough for the PL at the time (or even now)? Yes we need a new striker or 2, CM, RB potentially and a winger, but we will sign more players. However we shouldnt write off the players who were relegated with us before and have had a great season in the EFL winning games and building their confidence. Quite a few of them will be good enough for the PL. Continuity counts for alot rather than making mass changes. So? Why is that Bournemouth team more relevant than the Derby team that went down with eleven points? We don’t know for certain how anyone will play but signing a bunch of substandard players as ‘options’ just seems daft to me. Players like Lallana, Ings, Wood and McC are the calibre we need to be replacing this summer, not signing. 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 50 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I know football is a short career etc, but I can't help wondering at the point Ings retires, and he looks back on his career does he really think he has achieved much. I know he played at Liverpoool etc and had a few nasty injuries, but it seems he has put money before playing actual games. What is there not to like? earning millions training for a kick about every day.
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I know football is a short career etc, but I can't help wondering at the point Ings retires, and he looks back on his career does he really think he has achieved much. I know he played at Liverpoool etc and had a few nasty injuries, but it seems he has put money before playing actual games. Got a medal for winning the European competition with West Ham to be fair.
Master Bates Posted 7 July, 2024 Author Posted 7 July, 2024 (edited) Ings apparently rejects Saints switch. Saints watching Tiago Gouveia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiago_Gouveia Again sorry, no links on twitter I can post yet RE Gouvei, my bad. Edited 7 July, 2024 by Master Bates
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: What is there not to like? earning millions training for a kick about every day. My thought was centred around the fact that after the injuries, he would have wanted to play more games. He's hardly played a stack load of games after leaving us.
Verbal Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Is Asprilla at Watford going to move this season...? https://x.com/pranav_m28/status/1809895535630815616
Chez Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 24 minutes ago, Verbal said: Is Asprilla at Watford going to move this season...? https://x.com/pranav_m28/status/1809895535630815616 is he the lad that looked the nuts at SMS? 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chez said: is he the lad that looked the nuts at SMS?
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: My thought was centred around the fact that after the injuries, he would have wanted to play more games. He's hardly played a stack load of games after leaving us. Maybe his thought, after the injuries, was maximise his income and ensure he is set up for life just in case he gets a career ending injury? 4
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Maybe his thought, after the injuries, was maximise his income and ensure he is set up for life just in case he gets a career ending injury? That's true enough. I guess I've always has the mindset that if I was a pro footballer I'd want to play as many games as I possibly could.
Lighthouse Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: My thought was centred around the fact that after the injuries, he would have wanted to play more games. He's hardly played a stack load of games after leaving us. I’m not really clear on what your point is here. Unless he’s injured his back picking up his wallet at some point, I don’t get how earning more money has any bearing on his fitness issues.
Saint Marky Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 11 hours ago, miserableoldgit said: Sorry about posting that crap. My excuse is that it suddenly popped up on my phone late last night and in my excitement I didn't really check the date or source....I am suitably repentant.... Don’t worry, you’ve gained a gold card membership to the COT, so every cloud….. 6
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I’m not really clear on what your point is here. Unless he’s injured his back picking up his wallet at some point, I don’t get how earning more money has any bearing on his fitness issues. Like I said above, if I was playing professional, I'd want to play as many games as I could.
manji Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 5 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said: I can't, he hasn't been good for a couple of years now and is perpetually injured. He's also significantly overpaid. Literally makes no sense to me otherwise than nostalgia. I don’t believe we were ever interested in Ings. Bit of lazy journalism. He doesn’t fit in our team in anyway. His wages, his attitude, his poor fitness. I just can’t see Russell Martin saying Danny Ings, yeah he’d be perfect for us . As a back up it doesn’t make any sense either. we took Lalana back that decision makes perfect sense. i reckon we will be raiding a couple a Scottish teams very soon. 5 1
Barsiem Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Like I said above, if I was playing professional, I'd want to play as many games as I could. For a lot of players I imagine being a professional footballer becomes just another job after a while. Particularly those who don't reach the very top (i.e. playing for a team fighting for trophies). So there will be some who would be content to be in a squad and pick up as much money as possible. No idea if Ings is like that, but wouldn't surprise me 2
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 10 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Like I said above, if I was playing professional, I'd want to play as many games as I could. It doesn't matter how fit he is (or not), ultimately it's not his decision whether he plays. Might as well get the best wage on offer when there are no guarantees. 1
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 So, as far as I have been able to establish, these are all of the current rumours about players that Saints may be signing at present... Name Position Club Wellington Damascena LB/LWB/LW Sao Paolo Max Aarons RB Bournemouth Yukinari Sugawara RB AZ Alkmaar Flynn Downes CM West Ham Scott McTominay CM Man Utd Matt O’Riley CM Celtic Saman Ghoddos Winger Brentford Ryan Fraser Winger Newcastle Tiago Gouveia Winger Benfica Jack Clarke Winger Sunderland Oxlade-Chamberlain Winger Besiktas Fabio Carvalho AM/Winger Liverpool Liam Delap Striker Man City Ben Brereton- Diaz Striker Villareal Jeronimo Domina Striker Unión de Santa Fe Martin Branthwaite Striker Espanyol Bojan Miovski Striker Aberdeen Danny Ings Striker West Ham Have I missed any? 5
BARCELONASAINT Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: So, as far as I have been able to establish, these are all of the current rumours about players that Saints may be signing at present... Name Position Club Wellington Damascena LB/LWB/LW Sao Paolo Max Aarons RB Bournemouth Yukinari Sugawara RB AZ Alkmaar Flynn Downes CM West Ham Scott McTominay CM Man Utd Matt O’Riley CM Celtic Saman Ghoddos Winger Brentford Ryan Fraser Winger Newcastle Tiago Gouveia Winger Benfica Jack Clarke Winger Sunderland Oxlade-Chamberlain Winger Besiktas Fabio Carvalho AM/Winger Liverpool Liam Delap Striker Man City Ben Brereton- Diaz Striker Villareal Jeronimo Domina Striker Unión de Santa Fe Martin Branthwaite Striker Espanyol Bojan Miovski Striker Aberdeen Danny Ings Striker West Ham Have I missed any? when i look at that list I reckon we are, we could or should be in for 8 of those players! WELLINGTON - we already are in for him YUKINARI - Ditto FLYNN - Ditto O'RILEY - We should be FRASER - we already are CLARKE - We should be DELAP - We could be JERONIMO - We are already MIOVSKI - We could be Thats a lot of players, but thankfully we are or have got rid of some dead wood already. 2
CampionSaint Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 8 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: So, as far as I have been able to establish, these are all of the current rumours about players that Saints may be signing at present... Name Position Club Wellington Damascena LB/LWB/LW Sao Paolo Max Aarons RB Bournemouth Yukinari Sugawara RB AZ Alkmaar Flynn Downes CM West Ham Scott McTominay CM Man Utd Matt O’Riley CM Celtic Saman Ghoddos Winger Brentford Ryan Fraser Winger Newcastle Tiago Gouveia Winger Benfica Jack Clarke Winger Sunderland Oxlade-Chamberlain Winger Besiktas Fabio Carvalho AM/Winger Liverpool Liam Delap Striker Man City Ben Brereton- Diaz Striker Villareal Jeronimo Domina Striker Unión de Santa Fe Martin Branthwaite Striker Espanyol Bojan Miovski Striker Aberdeen Danny Ings Striker West Ham Have I missed any? Jason Steele from Brighton has been one that's just come to light. 2
Long Shot Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 41 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: So, as far as I have been able to establish, these are all of the current rumours about players that Saints may be signing at present... Name Position Club Wellington Damascena LB/LWB/LW Sao Paolo Max Aarons RB Bournemouth Yukinari Sugawara RB AZ Alkmaar Flynn Downes CM West Ham Scott McTominay CM Man Utd Matt O’Riley CM Celtic Saman Ghoddos Winger Brentford Ryan Fraser Winger Newcastle Tiago Gouveia Winger Benfica Jack Clarke Winger Sunderland Oxlade-Chamberlain Winger Besiktas Fabio Carvalho AM/Winger Liverpool Liam Delap Striker Man City Ben Brereton- Diaz Striker Villareal Jeronimo Domina Striker Unión de Santa Fe Martin Branthwaite Striker Espanyol Bojan Miovski Striker Aberdeen Danny Ings Striker West Ham Have I missed any? No but you spelt Welington wrongly which undermined you impressive work. 2
Chewy Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 53 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: So, as far as I have been able to establish, these are all of the current rumours about players that Saints may be signing at present... Name Position Club Wellington Damascena LB/LWB/LW Sao Paolo Max Aarons RB Bournemouth Yukinari Sugawara RB AZ Alkmaar Flynn Downes CM West Ham Scott McTominay CM Man Utd Matt O’Riley CM Celtic Saman Ghoddos Winger Brentford Ryan Fraser Winger Newcastle Tiago Gouveia Winger Benfica Jack Clarke Winger Sunderland Oxlade-Chamberlain Winger Besiktas Fabio Carvalho AM/Winger Liverpool Liam Delap Striker Man City Ben Brereton- Diaz Striker Villareal Jeronimo Domina Striker Unión de Santa Fe Martin Branthwaite Striker Espanyol Bojan Miovski Striker Aberdeen Danny Ings Striker West Ham Have I missed any? Wasn’t there some young Korean striker suggested at some point (can’t remember who). Otherwise that’s a pretty comprehensive list of the names we’ve heard. Except the ex-saint midfielder hinted at of course … if it is true and not one of the above already named
davefizzy14 Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said: AppareApparently the Ox has agreed to come back. Source?
SaintsFan86 Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 https://x.com/SaintsSocialite/status/1810055224998187071?t=yhqegsFENscQNHiKlTYQwA&s=19
Saintsarmy Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Could that be the ex midfielder returning that was mentioned on here a few days ago? Cannot find the original comment
SaintsLoyal Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 ANother turncoat we dont want back, clearly this club is desperate for a director of football and not a hoover salesman buying players for old time sake. 2
HarvSFC Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Not good enough for the Turkish league, so not good enough for the Premier League anymore. Hopefully not true. 2
Harry_SFC Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Still concerned about the lack of proper quality in these signings. 1
Dusic Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 Seems Liam Delap is on his way to Ipswich as well as Greaves and Philogene! Re AOC I doubt anything in it and certainly wouldn't trust any report out of Turkey!
Nolan Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 4 minutes ago, Dusic said: Seems Liam Delap is on his way to Ipswich as well as Greaves and Philogene! Re AOC I doubt anything in it and certainly wouldn't trust any report out of Turkey! pure speculation: not itk. Besiktas were after Onuachu.
Dellyears Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 2 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said: when i look at that list I reckon we are, we could or should be in for 8 of those players! WELLINGTON - we already are in for him YUKINARI - Ditto FLYNN - Ditto O'RILEY - We should be FRASER - we already are CLARKE - We should be DELAP - We could be JERONIMO - We are already MIOVSKI - We could be Thats a lot of players, but thankfully we are or have got rid of some dead wood already. Quite exciting list even if we only get three of them. But we've got to pay for them so does anyone know who has gone/ is going?
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 7 July, 2024 Posted 7 July, 2024 5 players in, but still really need replacements for Downes, Stu, Fraser, A right sided attacker and Che. And that's being generous in thinking Lallana has been brought in as direct competition across the midfield 3.
ErwinK1961 Posted 8 July, 2024 Posted 8 July, 2024 8 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said: ANother turncoat we dont want back, clearly this club is desperate for a director of football and not a hoover salesman buying players for old time sake. Are you the definition of a male Karen? 2 2
suewhistle Posted 8 July, 2024 Posted 8 July, 2024 Welington Damascena? The likeliest one to convert into a signing I reckon.. 😉 3
saintant Posted 8 July, 2024 Posted 8 July, 2024 11 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: AppareApparently the Ox has agreed to come back. No thanks. Not at his age and with his injury history. Let's not waste a big wage. 3
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