Midfield_General Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Chez said: 47 prem goals in 95 games for Newcastle. Pretty damn good. He was bought for £20m in 2020. Usually, a big transfer equals sizable wages. He extended his contract having scored 18 Prem goals in 22/23. If he's only on £46k a week, his agent has failed him. I’ve seen that figure in a couple of places: https://www.capology.com/player/callum-wilson-33661/ https://www.footballfancast.com/newcastle-united-player-wages-salaries-ranked/ No idea how reliable they are of course (or maybe they’re pre-extension?) but that does seem to be the figure that’s out there. Agree it seems like suspiciously excellent value in today’s mad market if true. Edited July 5 by Midfield_General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 8 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: What’s happened to the Nathan Wood signing? I thought this one was done and dusted and due to be announced too? I asked the same question yesterday. Swansea pages were saying it was a done deal and would be announced a couple of days ago. Since then, nothing. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Failed medical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Please tell me that you’re not serious about having Harrison Reed as our defensive midfielder this season instead of Downes. He maybe neat and tidy but we need a hell of a lot more than that in the middle of the park. Whilst Downes isn’t a giant he has a bit of presence in there. If we aren’t signing Downes I hope we have someone else other than him lined up. In past Premier league seasons we have lacked that strong powerful physicality in the middle of the park which is why we hoped Lemina would solve it. After that failure we seemed to give up on the idea for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Midfield_General said: If we’re in the market for a CF I wonder if Callum Wilson is one we’d take a look at. 32, English. 88 goals from 221 PL games. 9 from 20 last season. Had some injuries but nothing that sounds dangerously serious. £46k per week, valued at £13-£15m as now going into the last year of his contract and Newcastle want rid so they can sign Calvert-Lewin. 59 minutes ago, Chez said: 47 prem goals in 95 games for Newcastle. Pretty damn good. He was bought for £20m in 2020. Usually, a big transfer equals sizable wages. He extended his contract having scored 18 Prem goals in 22/23. If he's only on £46k a week, his agent has failed him. thus I think you might have meant £146k pw - no way he is on £46k pw (think that was his original contract) looking around it looks like £110/120k pw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 29 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: I’ve seen that figure in a couple of places: https://www.capology.com/player/callum-wilson-33661/ https://www.footballfancast.com/newcastle-united-player-wages-salaries-ranked/ No idea how reliable they are of course (or maybe they’re pre-extension?) but that does seem to be the figure that’s out there. Agree it seems like suspiciously excellent value in today’s mad market if true. There's no way they're right. The Athletic stated his latest contract is in line with the clubs highest earners. And tbh that's the only reason Newcastle would be interested in selling him. If he was on 42k per week it'd hardly help their FFP difficulties https://www.themag.co.uk/2022/10/callum-wilson-contribution-recognised-club-match-highest-earners-with-new-enhanced-deal-report-newcastle-united/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Lions do not care for the opinions of gazelles. haters hate upwards turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, northam soul said: Please tell me that you’re not serious about having Harrison Reed as our defensive midfielder this season instead of Downes. He maybe neat and tidy but we need a hell of a lot more than that in the middle of the park. Whilst Downes isn’t a giant he has a bit of presence in there. If we aren’t signing Downes I hope we have someone else other than him lined up. In past Premier league seasons we have lacked that strong powerful physicality in the middle of the park which is why we hoped Lemina would solve it. After that failure we seemed to give up on the idea for some reason. Nostalgia bias Reed was below average for us as a kid (apart from that one good game against Everton that one time) and he's gone on to be a slightly better but ultimately still average player. If he didn't have a prior connection with the club there's no way he'd even be being mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, northam soul said: Please tell me that you’re not serious about having Harrison Reed as our defensive midfielder this season instead of Downes. He maybe neat and tidy but we need a hell of a lot more than that in the middle of the park. Whilst Downes isn’t a giant he has a bit of presence in there. If we aren’t signing Downes I hope we have someone else other than him lined up. In past Premier league seasons we have lacked that strong powerful physicality in the middle of the park which is why we hoped Lemina would solve it. After that failure we seemed to give up on the idea for some reason. Did we? Lavia was one of the best signings we have made in recent years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 58 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: Failed medical ? No - personal delays I believe (moving etc), no rush... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said: While slightly different players, I can imagine Reed as a replacement for Downes given he now seems to be settled back at WH. Settled back at West Ham? It’s the start of July FFS. Will you be applying the same logic to KWP staying, on the basis he came in for training this week? 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 17 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Settled back at West Ham? It’s the start of July FFS. Will you be applying the same logic to KWP staying, on the basis he came in for training this week? Why would I do that? Completely different propositions…anyone with an ounce of sense would know that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Why would I do that? Completely different propositions…anyone with an ounce of sense would know that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 hours ago, CSA96 said: Bobby De Cordova-Reid has decided to sign for Leicester Championship footy clearly high on his list. That or they're paying him a fair whack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 18 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Why would I do that? Completely different propositions…anyone with an ounce of sense would know that. What's the difference between Downes only just returning to training and KWP? Sure their circumstances are different but neither of them are more settled in after a couple of days than the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: haters hate upwards turkish Exactly. Never take criticism off someone who can’t do what you can. Maybe I’ll listen when they’ve got 30 laughing reactions on a single post Edited July 5 by Turkish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Exactly. Never take criticism off someone who can’t do what you can. Maybe I’ll listen when they’ve got 30 laughing reactions on a single post Soggy has that, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: Soggy has that, I think. Maybe but not for the same reasons 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 31 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: What's the difference between Downes only just returning to training and KWP? Sure their circumstances are different but neither of them are more settled in after a couple of days than the other one. Well one player only has 1 year left on their deal, sadly. That being said, If West Ham aren't prepared to sale Downes, I'd add a additional £5Million to Kyle's price tag. I'm sure the club will have interest elsewhere. Edited July 5 by SaintsFan86 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Well one player only has 1 year left on their deal, sadly. That being said, If West Ham aren't prepared to sale Downes, I'd add a additional £5Million to Kyle's price tag. I'm sure the club will have interest elsewhere. I wouldn't be selling to West Ham if Downes isn't coming. He can go to Spurs instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 40 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: What's the difference between Downes only just returning to training and KWP? Sure their circumstances are different but neither of them are more settled in after a couple of days than the other one. The discussion was around Downes versus Reed - not KWP. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Caleta Car update of sorts https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809230872622612496?t=SvXdTpb_9UwbH4dprk380w&s=19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 41 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: The discussion was around Downes versus Reed - not KWP. 🙄 No your response was from someone who asked if you would be applying the same "settled" logic to KWP who has also just returned to preseason training in the same manner as Downes. Keep up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Bobby De Cordova-Reid off to Leicester from Fulham. Edited July 5 by Bad Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Why would I do that? Completely different propositions…anyone with an ounce of sense would know that. Huh? You've seemingly looked at that pic with Downes, JWP and Ings in the same picture (day 1 of pre-season training) and have come to the conclusion that it means he's settled there. Whereas the pictures of KWP back in training, day 1, is a totally different situation. Ok then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 19 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Bobby De Cordova-Reid off to Leicester from Fulham. I'd have been very happy with him. Smart acquisition on a free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'd have been very happy with him. Smart acquisition on a free. Meh. I’ve not seen much of him but I went up to craven cottage last season for a game, the Fulham lot around me weren’t very happy with him. He got hooked in the second half after doing not very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 34 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Huh? You've seemingly looked at that pic with Downes, JWP and Ings in the same picture (day 1 of pre-season training) and have come to the conclusion that it means he's settled there. Whereas the pictures of KWP back in training, day 1, is a totally different situation. Ok then. He'd have been satisfied if Downes had been on the Hanmer's changing room looking miserable with red and white face paint. Anything else and he's made his mind up and staying at West Ham. Clown World. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 30 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'd have been very happy with him. Smart acquisition on a free. Really? His scoring record is crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Really? His scoring record is crap. 4-6 goals a season for a wide attacking midfielder is our level in the Premier League. That's generally what Tadic got for us, S.Armstrong got for us, Ramirez, Redmond...ect I'm not suggesting I'm gutted to have missed out on him or anything like that but he was a realistic target on a free that C(have)DAJFU. His numbers are about the same as a peak Redmond which is probably the best we could realistically get on our budget. On a free, it seems a very sensible move on Leicester's part. I'm happy for us to aim higher but I doubt we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 58 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Huh? You've seemingly looked at that pic with Downes, JWP and Ings in the same picture (day 1 of pre-season training) and have come to the conclusion that it means he's settled there. Whereas the pictures of KWP back in training, day 1, is a totally different situation. Ok then. As is usual you’ve managed to transplant your weird perspective onto someone else’s post. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 hours ago, northam soul said: Please tell me that you’re not serious about having Harrison Reed as our defensive midfielder this season instead of Downes. He maybe neat and tidy but we need a hell of a lot more than that in the middle of the park. Whilst Downes isn’t a giant he has a bit of presence in there. If we aren’t signing Downes I hope we have someone else other than him lined up. In past Premier league seasons we have lacked that strong powerful physicality in the middle of the park which is why we hoped Lemina would solve it. After that failure we seemed to give up on the idea for some reason. No idea where you get the idea that anyone is suggesting Reed instead of Downes, perhaps BangkokSaint may have hinted at it. The reason Reed is being mentioned is because LeG hinted that Lallana might not be the only returning Saints midfielder, and then hinted that Reed was the answer. Don't think there was ever a suggestion that Reed = Downes. I still think Downes will eventually show up, West Ham seem quite enthusiastic about his departure, just the fee that needs to be negotiated. Neither Charles nor Reed could fulfil Downes' role, though both may go someway as being a cover option in the event of Downes being unavailable for the odd game. Downes brings a hell of a lot more to the table than either of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: No your response was from someone who asked if you would be applying the same "settled" logic to KWP who has also just returned to preseason training in the same manner as Downes. Keep up. No, my original post was from before that and anyway didn’t suppose anything about KWP. Keep up yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I doubt it’ll be Hojbjerg coming back. His agent has pretty much said he’s outgrown Spurs and should be at a club that is competitive in winning trophies. Based on his performances, I’d say he’s lucky to be at the level he is. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I’m guessing Che Adams has left and got that move he so craved? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, The Cat said: Caleta Car update of sorts https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809230872622612496?t=SvXdTpb_9UwbH4dprk380w&s=19 he might not know, but these guys seemed to have the intrinsic details of the deal when it happened last year: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/60556/why-caleta-car-transfer-is-disguised-as-a-loan-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I doubt it’ll be Hojbjerg coming back. His agent has pretty much said he’s outgrown Spurs and should be at a club that is competitive in winning trophies. if that's the case, he must have learned how to pass to teammates while at Spurs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeG Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Bit of uncertainty around Bednarek I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I’m guessing Che Adams has left and got that move he so craved? 😂 is the three-way love triangle (Che Adams-Dominic Calvert-Lewin-Callum Wilson) back on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, LeG said: Bit of uncertainty around Bednarek I believe. hasn't there always been? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 6 minutes ago, LeG said: Bit of uncertainty around Bednarek I believe. Expected. 1 year left on his deal, and could probably fetch a decent fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 4 year contract apparently agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 (edited) Here we go https://twitter.com/SaintsSocialite/status/1809259643971248418 Edited July 5 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Left Back FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Bit of a random one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 Just now, hypochondriac said: Bit of a random one. Yeah, stick the boot in...... I'll get me coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Manning and Larios off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Would suggest Manning would be out? Which will please many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: Would suggest Manning would be out? Which will please many. Yep, and yep. Probably also suggests that either Meghoma or Larios ain't sticking around either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Would suggest Manning would be out? Which will please many. He was consistently very suspect at Championship level. This season he’ll be an absolute liability in any games he’s asked to play, he needs to go. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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