gio1saints Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 Only asking on the basis that it’s desirable to be a ( free or very close to free ) transfer and it’s an experienced EPL goalscorer. And maybe it lubricates the Flynn transfer also. Does not preclude getting other younger forwards who are hungry and got potential and cost£30m accordingly in which we will not be doing I don’t think - but Saints seem to be interested in the latter type of free -ish player at present and MA coming back may not be a bad idea for a season or two.
Suhari Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 31 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: That’s a bit like asking if gravy is better than eggnog as a replacement for the Ribena I use to lubricate the engine in my Vauxhall. Just checked with my mate on this. He does cars. "Gravy all day long, pal. Bisto though: none of that Knorr crap. The eggnog will cook and clog, then you're needing to call the Saturday Kitchen mob, and they're wankers. Why's he changing from Ribena anyway? Doesn't he know it's summer." HTH. 2 1
Harry_SFC Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 13 hours ago, goodymatt said: They’ve already broken our transfer record then. I was hoping he would go to Germany like Tella did as he is one of their best players. Great signing for Tractor Teds. I'm not one for just chucking money around but Ipswich have been in the premier league for 5 minutes and they've already broken our transfer record. Pretty damning really. We need to make a couple of statement signings this summer otherwise we will be back down before we know it - the PL is just getting tougher and tougher. 3 1
miserableoldgit Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 2 hours ago, WALK DMC said: I think that we should compare the forums views on these players. Mara has been universally panned by this forum, with perhaps a short respite from the criticism around the Huddersfield game. Delap has got a good reputation with Hull fans for his pace and holdup play. There are a few comments that his decision making and finishing will need to improve but they talk about an individual with huge potential. He is still only 21, so 8 goals in the Championship at that age isn't too shabby. Mara scored 3 in the league last year. I'm not saying Delap is a world beater, merely that it might be worth giving him a chance before writing him off. You DO know that you are on Saintsweb, don't you? "This is NOT the Way"..... 4
chownie20 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 14 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I'm not one for just chucking money around but Ipswich have been in the premier league for 5 minutes and they've already broken our transfer record. Pretty damning really. We need to make a couple of statement signings this summer otherwise we will be back down before we know it - the PL is just getting tougher and tougher. Hutchinson hasn't cost them more than Sulemana? And 20m of their FFP budget on a flair player when they need a whole new defence and midfield seems silly when they have Burns in that position already 1
davefizzy14 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) This would be a massive coup. Edited 29 June, 2024 by davefizzy14 3
Harry_SFC Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 7 minutes ago, chownie20 said: Hutchinson hasn't cost them more than Sulemana? And 20m of their FFP budget on a flair player when they need a whole new defence and midfield seems silly when they have Burns in that position already Well Hutchinson played 44 matches for Ipswich last season scoring 10 goals so he's no doubt a big player for them. Burns played 35 times so I'm pretty sure they were both playing in the same team?
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Had good success with our Scottish transfers on the whole and he's had an excellent season statistically. We were also linked with him previously iirc so he seems like a long term first choice target. I'll be watching Germany vs Denmark tonight so interested to see how he gets on. 4
revolution saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 5 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: This would be a massive coup. Definitely the most exciting link I've seen. 1
revolution saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Had good success with our Scottish transfers on the whole and he's had an excellent season statistically. We were also linked with him previously iirc so he seems like a long term first choice target. I'll be watching Germany vs Denmark tonight so interested to see how he gets on. Unfortunately isn't in the Denmark squad - no idea why, Danish fans were pretty pissed off about it 1
Saint86 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: This would be a massive coup. I disagree. From what i've seen of him i just don't think he's good enough to warrant a large transfer fee. I don't think people quite realise the gulf in quality between Celtic and most of the SPL, and just how poor a player he comes up against. I'd much rather keep the likes of Stu and Alcaraz over him put it that way - if we can get him at a good price fine. But the £20-30m fees being bandied about mean we should look elsewhere. 7 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Had good success with our Scottish transfers on the whole and he's had an excellent season statistically. We were also linked with him previously iirc so he seems like a long term first choice target. I'll be watching Germany vs Denmark tonight so interested to see how he gets on. He didn't make the denmark squad. Edited 29 June, 2024 by Saint86 4
Master Bates Posted 29 June, 2024 Author Posted 29 June, 2024 1 hour ago, SNSUN said: According to this it was agreed in February? https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/waterfords-teen-attacker-romeo-akachukwu-17-seals-500000-move-in-the-summer-to-championship-side-southampton/a979771622.html It was agreed Nov 15th 2023.
saintant Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 10 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: The players coming in on frees seemingly - Taylor, Fraser, Ghoddos, DCR - are sensible, and a possible Downes-KWP exchange given the latter is in the last year of his contract makes sense. Sugawara seems a positive link at RWB. Liam Delap at £10m would be a good option as a second striker, we will need a first choice and Stewart as third striker getting 15-20 minutes and building his fitness up after nothing for the last 18 months. THB already done. The one very questionable area is goalkeeper, club has to be using the loan market for this season if they still don’t want to admit their fuck up on buying Bazanu. He won’t be fit this season anyway and on loan at Carlisle, Stockport, Exeter or somewhere at League 1/2 levels in 2025/26 to get fit again. It seems fairly clear that the club has decided McCarthy will be our number one keeper until Baz returns. I don't agree with it but he hasn't been given a new two year contract to sit on his ass. 1
SaintsFan86 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 https://x.com/SaintsExtra/status/1806996320986513572?t=ra3iA8ZhLuYB8GBEmptfcQ&s=19
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said: https://x.com/SaintsExtra/status/1806996320986513572?t=ra3iA8ZhLuYB8GBEmptfcQ&s=19 That can't be right. FFP is the buzzword on here 3
hypochondriac Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 20 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I disagree. From what i've seen of him i just don't think he's good enough to warrant a large transfer fee. I don't think people quite realise the gulf in quality between Celtic and most of the SPL, and just how poor a player he comes up against. I'd much rather keep the likes of Stu and Alcaraz over him put it that way - if we can get him at a good price fine. But the £20-30m fees being bandied about mean we should look elsewhere. He didn't make the denmark squad. We've got a great record with spl players haven't we? Vvd, Armstrong, Davis, wanyana etc weren't harmed by playing against inferior opposition. 1
Chez Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said: I'm not one for just chucking money around but Ipswich have been in the premier league for 5 minutes and they've already broken our transfer record. Pretty damning really. We need to make a couple of statement signings this summer otherwise we will be back down before we know it - the PL is just getting tougher and tougher. Not saying we don't need to invest in more talent, but we just spent roughly the same on THB. Edited 29 June, 2024 by Chez 1
Chez Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: That can't be right. FFP is the buzzword on here FFP doesn't stop you spending money, you just need to balance the books. Bet it doesn't happen in this current financial year.
Chez Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We've got a great record with spl players haven't we? Vvd, Armstrong, Davis, wanyana etc weren't harmed by playing against inferior opposition. Aribo didn't exactly pull up any trees in the Prem (let's see how he goes second time around), but as long as we don't sign another McCant, I don't see a problem with acquiring the best player in the Scottish league - I'm assuming that rather than knowing it. Edited 29 June, 2024 by Chez 2
Saint Scott Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 42 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Unfortunately isn't in the Denmark squad - no idea why, Danish fans were pretty pissed off about it I'd say that is probably a good thing. If he had a decent tournament his price would go up and he'd potentially have bigger suitors. 22 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: https://x.com/SaintsExtra/status/1806996320986513572?t=ra3iA8ZhLuYB8GBEmptfcQ&s=19 Picking up experienced players on a free may give us more wiggle room for players of this ilk. Hope this happens, he looks a great talent.
Ken Tone Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We've got a great record with spl players haven't we? Vvd, Armstrong, Davis, wanyana etc weren't harmed by playing against inferior opposition. Yes but success not guaranteed--- eg Elyounoussi. Scottish football is such low quality that it's not a very good guide to how good a player is.
ErwinK1961 Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 25 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: https://x.com/SaintsExtra/status/1806996320986513572?t=ra3iA8ZhLuYB8GBEmptfcQ&s=19 No one is paying £30m for this guy, least of all us. 2
ally_uk Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 £30 million for him 🤣🤣🤣 Lets not get carried away 1
goodymatt Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 Just now, ally_uk said: £30 million for him 🤣🤣🤣 Lets not get carried away Transfermarkt reckons his value is estimated at €20m, so £17m. £30m is not happening, surely?
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: Unfortunately isn't in the Denmark squad - no idea why, Danish fans were pretty pissed off about it Whaaaaaaaaat!?!? Ok, shows how much I've been paying attention to Denmark this Euros - and we played them! Which shows how much I've been paying attention to England too.
Chez Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 3 hours ago, revolution saint said: Unfortunately isn't in the Denmark squad - no idea why, Danish fans were pretty pissed off about it Good news. Decent break for him. Come out firing for us. 3
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 4 hours ago, revolution saint said: Unfortunately isn't in the Denmark squad - no idea why, Danish fans were pretty pissed off about it He's Danish? I thought he was Irish! Especially being at Celtic.
West end Saints Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 4 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: This would be a massive coup. Signed by Martin before I believe 1
Patches O Houlihan Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) Matt O’Riley speaking in Sept 2022: “Russell Martin is the one who I am still in contact with the most. He was a big influence on me at MK. He's the first manager to really understand me as a player and more importantly as a person.” Full article worth a read Celtic Fan Forum MoR thread - discussion about Saints & Denmark squad Edited 29 June, 2024 by Patches O Houlihan better links 4
derry Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 56 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: He's Danish? I thought he was Irish! Especially being at Celtic. Born in London, Danish mother, opted for Denmark.
Patches O Houlihan Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 11 minutes ago, derry said: Born in London, Danish mother, opted for Denmark. Links to London might give us the edge over Atletico Madrid or Roma (?!!)
hypochondriac Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: Links to London might give us the edge over Atletico Madrid or Roma (?!!) I'd say the previous relationship with our manager might give us an edge. 3
Convict Colony Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 5 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: This would be a massive coup. To help me is this a Celtic VVD or Victor coup or is this a Celtic Stu Armstrong coup.
Patches O Houlihan Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'd say the previous relationship with our manager might give us an edge. Yes - that's why I quoted the article. More Celtic fan forum discussion here. Apparently he won man of the match in a Champions League game playing as a 6. So he has proper defensive midfield ability too.
Patches O Houlihan Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: To help me is this a Celtic VVD or Victor coup or is this a Celtic Stu Armstrong coup. Reading their forums its VVD / Wanyama level 4
Convict Colony Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 53 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: Matt O’Riley speaking in Sept 2022: “Russell Martin is the one who I am still in contact with the most. He was a big influence on me at MK. He's the first manager to really understand me as a player and more importantly as a person.” Full article worth a read Celtic Fan Forum MoR thread - discussion about Saints & Denmark squad Thanks amigo good links 1
hypochondriac Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 21 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: Yes - that's why I quoted the article. More Celtic fan forum discussion here. Apparently he won man of the match in a Champions League game playing as a 6. So he has proper defensive midfield ability too. Thanks. General consensus is he's great but they think we have no chance of getting him. Would be good but I'll file this one under unlikely until we hear anything further.
Patches O Houlihan Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 (edited) 20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Thanks. General consensus is he's great but they think we have no chance of getting him. Would be good but I'll file this one under unlikely until we hear anything further. RM did try to sign him to Swansea, and they describe a player with his head on straight. He's just played the season of his life and not been picked for the Euros because of the standard of the league he's playing in (and also potentially because he's too creative and too young for the Danish manager) If I were him I'd want to continue that run of form and join a team where I would play more often than not. He's 23 so likely another big move before he hits 27/28. I'd say we are favourites if we have £20m + add ons available Edited 29 June, 2024 by Patches O Houlihan
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 19 goals and 18 assists from midfield is impressive, SPL or not. 3
SuperSAINT Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 Scottish Southampton manager, wanting a top SPL player? ** Postmodern Rudi Skacel saga klaxon** 1
hypochondriac Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 22 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: RM did try to sign him to Swansea, and they describe a player with his head on straight. He's just played the season of his life and not been picked for the Euros because of the standard of the league he's playing in (and also potentially because he's too creative and too young for the Danish manager) If I were him I'd want to continue that run of form and join a team where I would play more often than not. He's 23 so likely another big move before he hits 27/28. I'd say we are favourites if we have £20m + add ons available If I were him I'd prefer a move to leverkusen or athletic. Just being honest.
The Kraken Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 24 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: 19 goals and 18 assists from midfield is impressive, SPL or not. Elyounoussi got 17 in a season for Celtic. 8 from 21 games in the season before. 3
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 25 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: 19 goals and 18 assists from midfield is impressive, SPL or not. Elyounoussi has had a similar-ish season in Denmark, so I’d still view this with some caution.
JRM Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 Fees like this are madness aren't they? https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1807089494387994847?t=KmKEJrrDctFdgptH8hlTkg&s=19 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 9 hours ago, benjii said: Am I the only one who thinks we need "another Downes", not just Downes? We need him plus a combative midfielder with energy and recovery ability. We 100% won't get away with Downes, Smallbone, Aribo as a PL midfield. And even if we could, we saw last year that we're buggered if Downes misses a match. Can Ghoddos do that role? Agreed. We needed to give Romeu support, but he moved on when we got Lavia. Too much dependency on Downes' role. Unless we're expecting Charles to make a sizeable step up, then we definitely need someone else. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 I wasn't really following him, but must have seen him in a rare couple of meh performances at some point last season, going by his stats. No idea if it was a return from injury, dip in form, or the whole team struggling. However, I did see him come off the bench in an Old Firm, and he drove his team.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 13 minutes ago, JRM said: Fees like this are madness aren't they? https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1807089494387994847?t=KmKEJrrDctFdgptH8hlTkg&s=19 It's becoming the norm now. Wolves asking for 45m for Max Kilman is absolutely mental. He wasn't even in the standby pool for the Euro's.
Saints4Prem Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 17 minutes ago, JRM said: Fees like this are madness aren't they? https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1807089494387994847?t=KmKEJrrDctFdgptH8hlTkg&s=19 The fees are ridiculous but surprised Sky couldn't do better than a deflected shot for a goal?
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 16 minutes ago, JRM said: Fees like this are madness aren't they? https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1807089494387994847?t=KmKEJrrDctFdgptH8hlTkg&s=19 It is a lot but it's almost a guaranteed profit for them when, eventually, they sell him to a big club. Pundits have raved about him all season but I heard it the most during the play off final. He has a lot of experience under his belt for an 18 year old. The sad thing is it helps Leeds out financially! 😁 1
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 June, 2024 Posted 29 June, 2024 45 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Elyounoussi got 17 in a season for Celtic. 8 from 21 games in the season before. Yes and he went on to be one of our best players at running around after the ball! 😅 But yeah, good point…
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