davefizzy14 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: That's more like it Yes please, O'Riley is class. Edited June 28 by davefizzy14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 7 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: That's more like it Martin and him are pretty close, think he was big in his career at MK Dons. Can imagine there is interest, I think there was last summer too. That price would need to come down a lot though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Martin and him are pretty close, think he was big in his career at MK Dons. Can imagine there is interest, I think there was last summer too. That price would need to come down a lot though! Think £20m would be fair, we must have some dreck we can send their way to get the cost down. Seems to be all the rage. Sulemana could do with a confidence-boosting season in Scotland if you ask me, Champions League football as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 7 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Yes please, O'Riley is class. Just saying we are interested in signing someone doesn't make it particularly likely imo. I reckon he gets better offers than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 The West Ham link is interesting. I can see us improving defensively on KWP which we will need in a lot of games in the Premier League. There is no doubting his attacking ability but primarily we need to be able to defend. I can see the possibility of KWP going and Downes plus Ings coming the other way with WHU picking up a proportion of Ings salary. Plus a bit of cash. Personally I want to see three centre backs and full backs that can defend when required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Happy last weekend before preseason starts, everyone 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) Ipswich signing one of their loans on a perm - Omari Hutchinson, £23m. He was decent for them last season, good player who is ready to make the step up imo. The money Chelsea make on their kids is insane though. Edited June 28 by S-Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just now, S-Clarke said: Ipswich signing one of their loans on a perm - Omari Hutchinson, £23m. He was decent for them last season, good player who is ready to make the step up imo. The money Chelsea make on their kids is insane though. They’ve already broken our transfer record then. I was hoping he would go to Germany like Tella did as he is one of their best players. Great signing for Tractor Teds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 30 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Yes please, O'Riley is class. tell us all about him Dave, what sort of midfielder is he? what are his strengths? How do you feel he will dovetail with Downes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: tell us all about him Dave, what sort of midfielder is he? what are his strengths? How do you feel he will dovetail with Downes? He is a box to box midfielder who can create and score goals. Quality player. Flynn and him together would be exciting. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) Funny to read posts about KWP being a defensive liability when just a month ago everyone was rightly pointing out that he kept the Championship Player of the Year in his pocket for 3 games. I know its a defence mechanism but its ok to just be honest and say it how it is: disappointing to lose KWP who has been great for us both defensively and going forward. Probably our best player. Whilst I'm on the topic of bad takes...these posts with lineups for next season are absurd for two reasons: 1. There is zero chance we will only sign frees and loans and end up with starting front 3s as weak as Ghoddos, Arma, Fraser so its a waste of time doing lineups at this point before we have done any proper business (we know the market hots up in July/Aug because its the same every single year) 2. Most of those lineups wouldnt get 20 points...its only been a year but some seem to have forgotten how strong and ruthless the PL is. Edited June 28 by Dusic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) Alan Nixon (I know...) has put a piece out, tagged as an exclusive, saying Saints are keen on Liam Delap if Ché Adams goes. Been interested quite a while now and says RM is keen to have a strong runner and someone who can hold the ball up, if CA does leave. Man City willing to sell for £10m but top Champ sides struggling to meet asking price. Edited June 28 by CSA96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: Based on rumours this is where I am at currently with the players likely to come in and and our current crop; Macca; New RB, THB, Bednarek, Taylor; Downes; Smallbone, New 8 Arma, New 9, New Winger. Having watched the Saints since the early 1960s I can honestly say I am underwhelmed with the idea of the above struggling in the PL in the coming months but can only hope the New RB is going to be like Ivan Golac the new 8 is like Stevie Williams the new 9 is like Martin Chivers and the new winger is as good as Terry Paine then we may have a chance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 53 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Think £20m would be fair, we must have some dreck we can send their way to get the cost down. Seems to be all the rage. Sulemana could do with a confidence-boosting season in Scotland if you ask me, Champions League football as well. they need a CB and left back. I wonder what ABK might think of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 21 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Alan Nixon (I know...) has put a piece out, tagged as an exclusive, saying Saints are keen on Liam Delap if Ché Adams goes. Been interested quite a while now and says RM is keen to have a strong runner and someone who can hold the ball up, if CA does leave. Man City willing to sell for £10m but top Champ sides struggling to meet asking price. I think at £10m that would be a decent signing. He has the potential and at that price could he be one of a couple new strikers? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Chez said: they need a CB and left back. I wonder what ABK might think of them. And Manning! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: If they were his stats in 2003, he must be 51 now 😳 Good spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, goodymatt said: I think at £10m that would be a decent signing. He has the potential and at that price could he be one of a couple new strikers? Nothing about his career to date says he has what it takes to make it in the prem his goal return when on loan in the championship has been abysmal I just can’t get exited about a player who got 8 goals in 31 games last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said: Nothing about his career to date says he has what it takes to make it in the prem his goal return when on loan in the championship has been abysmal I just can’t get exited about a player who got 8 goals in 31 games last year. Just putting it out there, but a young 20 year old Harry Kane was relatively similar before he made his proper break through - couple of nondescript champ loans at Norwich and Leicester where he did pretty similar to Delap, nothing mind blowing. We were linked with him in 2014 and I remember a lot of fans saying exactly the same ''Hasn't done anything, he's not going to do it at this level etc''. The rest was history once he got his chance at Spurs. Saints eye £10m Kane – The Sun Edited June 28 by S-Clarke 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just now, a1ex2001 said: Nothing about his career to date says he has what it takes to make it in the prem his goal return when on loan in the championship has been abysmal I just can’t get exited about a player who got 8 goals in 31 games last year. Watching him I think he’s got something. At £10m I don’t see us losing money on him and just feel he has a higher ceiling. Looked decent for Hull who played possession footy. City’s academy also will have been a good preparation for Martin ball. Stoke and Preston completely different in their styles and he has had injury interruptions. It’s not all been rosey but that’s why his asking price has dropped to £10m. Think he’s a better gamble than Che Adams going forward if brought in as one to develop. Kane is a good example of not smashing the championship on his loans but realising that potential. Our model involves taking risks on these kind of players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Just putting it out there, but a young 20 year old Harry Kane was relatively similar before he made his proper break through - couple of nondescript champ loans at Norwich and Leicester where he did pretty similar to Delap, nothing mind blowing. We were linked with him in 2014 and I remember a lot of fans saying exactly the same ''Hasn't done anything, he's not going to do it at this level etc''. The rest was history once he got his chance at Spurs. Saints eye £10m Kane – The Sun Think I agree with you. As long as we get a couple of strikers in I think this could be a smart move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Think I agree with you. As long as we get a couple of strikers in I think this could be a smart move. He's almost certainly on our list, we were heavily linked a couple of summers ago - but for crazy money, 20-25m I think. £10m would be a much fairer reflection. Like others have said, I think he has something about him. As a youth player he was prolific, everyone was excited about him and he was linkend to Kane in many ways. Defo a gamble at £10m I'd be happy to take (or a loan with a view) Edited June 28 by S-Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 46 minutes ago, Dusic said: Whilst I'm on the topic of bad takes...these posts with lineups for next season are absurd for two reasons: 1. There is zero chance we will only sign frees and loans and end up with starting front 3s as weak as Ghoddos, Arma, Fraser so its a waste of time doing lineups at this point before we have done any proper business (we know the market hots up in July/Aug because its the same every single year) 2. Most of those lineups wouldnt get 20 points...its only been a year but some seem to have forgotten how strong and ruthless the PL is. yeah pointless showing where we roughly are right now, far more fun speculating on how we might look if we find £100m down the back the sofa. 😉 Bento Sugawara THB Bednarek Taylor Riley Downs Sara AA Banza Carvalho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: Alan Nixon (I know...) has put a piece out, tagged as an exclusive, saying Saints are keen on Liam Delap if Ché Adams goes. Been interested quite a while now and says RM is keen to have a strong runner and someone who can hold the ball up, if CA does leave. Man City willing to sell for £10m but top Champ sides struggling to meet asking price. Can we just get him for £4m, at least having claim to fame of getting father and son for the same price. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Can we just get him for £4m, at least having claim to fame of getting father and son for the same price. His dad was our record signing for quite a while maybe we should chuck City £30m just for the future pub quiz question! Edited June 28 by a1ex2001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, a1ex2001 said: Nothing about his career to date says he has what it takes to make it in the prem his goal return when on loan in the championship has been abysmal I just can’t get exited about a player who got 8 goals in 31 games last year. It would be like swapping Che for Che. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: It would be like swapping Che for Che. Touche! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 If it came off Downes Smallbone Armstrong O'reily Fraser Delap/Stewart Is a better attacking lineup. Then we either use lallana and Fraser or hopefully get in a winger or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) The players coming in on frees seemingly - Taylor, Fraser, Ghoddos, DCR - are sensible, and a possible Downes-KWP exchange given the latter is in the last year of his contract makes sense. Sugawara seems a positive link at RWB. Liam Delap at £10m would be a good option as a second striker, we will need a first choice and Stewart as third striker getting 15-20 minutes and building his fitness up after nothing for the last 18 months. THB already done. The one very questionable area is goalkeeper, club has to be using the loan market for this season if they still don’t want to admit their fuck up on buying Bazanu. He won’t be fit this season anyway and on loan at Carlisle, Stockport, Exeter or somewhere at League 1/2 levels in 2025/26 to get fit again. Edited June 28 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 20 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Only two more to implode and we're safe for another season. Assuming we are able to get more points than the 3 implosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 6 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: The players coming in on frees seemingly - Taylor, Fraser, Ghoddos, DCR - are sensible, and a possible Downes-KWP exchange given the latter is in the last year of his contract makes sense. Sugawara seems a positive link at RWB. Liam Delap at £10m would be a good option as a second striker, we will need a first choice and Stewart as third striker getting 15-20 minutes and building his fitness up after nothing for the last 18 months. THB already done. The one very questionable area is goalkeeper, club has to be using the loan market for this season if they still don’t want to admit their fuck up on buying Bazanu. He won’t be fit this season anyway and on loan at Carlisle, Stockport, Exeter or somewhere at League 1/2 levels in 2025/26 to get fit again. I don't get how Martin can be so ruthless with the likes of Alcaraz and Sulemana yet have a blind spot when it comes to Bazunu. Maybe he just loves the fact that his distribution is so good? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I really hope rhe delap talk is rehashed bullshit from last season, might as well keep mara 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 25 minutes ago, danjosaint said: I really hope rhe delap talk is rehashed bullshit from last season, might as well keep mara Blunter than I would be, but he doesn't look anything like a PL player to me, and has done next to nothing in his championship loans. Not a link that excites me either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) Am I the only one who thinks we need "another Downes", not just Downes? We need him plus a combative midfielder with energy and recovery ability. We 100% won't get away with Downes, Smallbone, Aribo as a PL midfield. And even if we could, we saw last year that we're buggered if Downes misses a match. Can Ghoddos do that role? Edited June 29 by benjii 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 40 minutes ago, danjosaint said: I really hope rhe delap talk is rehashed bullshit from last season, might as well keep mara I think that we should compare the forums views on these players. Mara has been universally panned by this forum, with perhaps a short respite from the criticism around the Huddersfield game. Delap has got a good reputation with Hull fans for his pace and holdup play. There are a few comments that his decision making and finishing will need to improve but they talk about an individual with huge potential. He is still only 21, so 8 goals in the Championship at that age isn't too shabby. Mara scored 3 in the league last year. I'm not saying Delap is a world beater, merely that it might be worth giving him a chance before writing him off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I find it funny how people are still saying “if Che Adams leaves…”. He’s gone, he’s had offers on the table all season and he has stalled and stalled and stalled. Personally after the play off final we should’ve revoked any contract offer just for that reason. I would be shocked if he was here next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 8 hours ago, hypochondriac said: If it came off Downes Smallbone Armstrong O'reily Fraser Delap/Stewart Is a better attacking lineup. Then we either use lallana and Fraser or hopefully get in a winger or two. Maybe it is a better combination but it is no where near other non struggling Saints teams in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 22 hours ago, Oldandtired said: here's another rumour for the mill .. https://x.com/JustSaints_/status/1806625038918980038 Bloody bad news. What in hell is the point of swapping KWP for Downes? How does that help us improve the team? We need them both not one or t'other. Stop this nonsense now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 41 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I find it funny how people are still saying “if Che Adams leaves…”. He’s gone, he’s had offers on the table all season and he has stalled and stalled and stalled. Personally after the play off final we should’ve revoked any contract offer just for that reason. I would be shocked if he was here next season. Glad to see the back of him. Over-rated plodder, always has been always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said: Bloody bad news. What in hell is the point of swapping KWP for Downes? How does that help us improve the team? We need them both not one or t'other. Stop this nonsense now! If KWP has told the club he wont sign an extension they either cash in now as best they can or lose him for nothing this time next year. It's a no brainer really as unfortunate as it is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Just saw that myself. I know it's only the Irish league, but to be playing and impacting first team football @ 16 is pretty special, in whatever league. Beat some big clubs to this one. Hope we actually get to see him play for us before the inevitable transfer in a few years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 According to this it was agreed in February? https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/waterfords-teen-attacker-romeo-akachukwu-17-seals-500000-move-in-the-summer-to-championship-side-southampton/a979771622.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Wow I know Irish football isn't a high standard, but how low do you need to be for Fleetwood to be your "parent" club! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 19 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Well the last teenage starlet called Romeo we signed didn't turn out too bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 11 hours ago, John B said: Having watched the Saints since the early 1960s I can honestly say I am underwhelmed with the idea of the above struggling in the PL in the coming months but can only hope the New RB is going to be like Ivan Golac the new 8 is like Stevie Williams the new 9 is like Martin Chivers and the new winger is as good as Terry Paine then we may have a chance Chuck in a striker with the aerial ability of Ron Davies to come off the bench and a young Mike Channon coming through the youth set up and that would be worth considering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) Is Michael Antonio > Danny Ings? As a replacement for Che? Edited June 29 by gio1saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 17 minutes ago, SNSUN said: According to this it was agreed in February? https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/waterfords-teen-attacker-romeo-akachukwu-17-seals-500000-move-in-the-summer-to-championship-side-southampton/a979771622.html Was quite a complicated deal to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 5 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Is Michael Antonio > Danny Ings? As a replacement for Che? That’s a bit like asking if gravy is better than eggnog as a replacement for the Ribena I use to lubricate the engine in my Vauxhall. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Ok. Is gravy better than eggnog as a replacement for Che? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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