Mr Saints Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Would certainly take Rodon, like the look of him and would suit us well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, northam soul said: So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? 7-0 to Newcastle? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 22 minutes ago, northam soul said: So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? What a pointless post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 24 minutes ago, northam soul said: So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? The fucking Alamo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 When we were relegated, some of our player’s wage took a cut of 40-50%. Does anyone know if promotion means they will be part to their original ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 13 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: What a pointless post. What a pointless response 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 It seems that transfers and players signing new contracts drag on for longer these days, or is it because you used to find out about a new signing as it happens or only in a news article a day or so before. It is probably to do with the media and the fact we have access to 24 hour media, but it drags on for a long time these days, or so it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 21 minutes ago, northam soul said: What a pointless response Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Can someone just refresh my memory, what is the problem with Alcaraz just returning and fighting far a place here. He had enough about him to show some promise, yes he made some howlers as well but had plenty of potential for a 20 year old.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: Can someone just refresh my memory, what is the problem with Alcaraz just returning and fighting far a place here. He had enough about him to show some promise, yes he made some howlers as well but had plenty of potential for a 20 year old.. Home to Plymouth in what I believe was his last game he scored a cracker! He has the potential but does not seem to fit RM style of play or the system. 🤷🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: Can someone just refresh my memory, what is the problem with Alcaraz just returning and fighting far a place here. He had enough about him to show some promise, yes he made some howlers as well but had plenty of potential for a 20 year old.. The problem appears to be RM and his staff have no patience with him cos he’s not great at ball retention and working back…..apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 13 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: Can someone just refresh my memory, what is the problem with Alcaraz just returning and fighting far a place here. He had enough about him to show some promise, yes he made some howlers as well but had plenty of potential for a 20 year old.. He is a give and go type of player. RM is about ball retention and shape 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: Can someone just refresh my memory, what is the problem with Alcaraz just returning and fighting far a place here. He had enough about him to show some promise, yes he made some howlers as well but had plenty of potential for a 20 year old.. He doesn't use the ball well enough for me, lacks discipline, and I can't see where he'd fit in the RM system - I wouldn't play him as a CF, he's not a winger, not a CM, but arguably he could play off a CF in a 352. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 I'm not opposed to Rodon and it could set up a good partnership with THB for years to come. However, with the club now targeting experienced players, I think the best position we could fill with an experienced player would be the centre-back position to mentor THB. Similar to how Fonte assisted Lovren, Alderweireld and Van Dijk on their way up. Craig Dawson at West Ham and Wolves is an example as he was/has also been impressive and he's a less glamourous, yet experienced head in the back line. I know we sort of have Stephens and Bednarek to fill that criteria, but we all know Stephens has his limitations while Bednarek isn't the greatest of leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 23 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I'm not opposed to Rodon and it could set up a good partnership with THB for years to come. However, with the club now targeting experienced players, I think the best position we could fill with an experienced player would be the centre-back position to mentor THB. Similar to how Fonte assisted Lovren, Alderweireld and Van Dijk on their way up. Craig Dawson at West Ham and Wolves is an example as he was/has also been impressive and he's a less glamourous, yet experienced head in the back line. I know we sort of have Stephens and Bednarek to fill that criteria, but we all know Stephens has his limitations while Bednarek isn't the greatest of leaders. 23 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I'm not opposed to Rodon and it could set up a good partnership with THB for years to come. However, with the club now targeting experienced players, I think the best position we could fill with an experienced player would be the centre-back position to mentor THB. Similar to how Fonte assisted Lovren, Alderweireld and Van Dijk on their way up. Craig Dawson at West Ham and Wolves is an example as he was/has also been impressive and he's a less glamourous, yet experienced head in the back line. I know we sort of have Stephens and Bednarek to fill that criteria, but we all know Stephens has his limitations while Bednarek isn't the greatest of leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Dellyears said: We've got our own Stephens for dedication commitment and enthusiasm and we've got Bednarek for length of career and international experience. What more do we want? Don't forget anyone we sign will hope and expect to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldandtired Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: The problem appears to be RM and his staff have no patience with him cos he’s not great at ball retention and working back…..apparently. He is a creative player with flair, just the sort that RM doesn't like. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, northam soul said: So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? God, that subs bench is full of names I'd erased from my memory due to trauma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Oh ok, so from the comments, Alcaraz doesn't play rusball style. Shame though as he did have a certain something and with the right development could have been a bit special. I still think that even if your football is possession based and disciplined you still need someone who can provide a bit of magic and imagination. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Being linked to Tyler Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 https://x.com/tfinsider/status/1804601628055711808?s=46 Could be worse, Ipswich linked with Alexis Sanchez. Guess he'll take up a large chunk of their budget and deliver very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13560327/Liverpool-place-20m-price-tag-midfielder-Tyler-Morton-amid-RB-Leipzig-Bournemouth-Southampton-Ipswich-Town.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, Saint NL said: https://x.com/tfinsider/status/1804601628055711808?s=46 Could be worse, Ipswich linked with Alexis Sanchez. Guess he'll take up a large chunk of their budget and deliver very little. I thought he'd retired years ago! He's younger than Lallana ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 17 minutes ago, Saint NL said: https://x.com/tfinsider/status/1804601628055711808?s=46 Could be worse, Ipswich linked with Alexis Sanchez. Guess he'll take up a large chunk of their budget and deliver very little. Almost as nuts as when Bolton tried to sign Rivaldo. Would be a weird one but probably sell a few shirts and unlike us Ipswich genuinely need a bit of PL experience in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Oldandtired said: He is a creative player with flair, just the sort that RM doesn't like. He gave the ball away too often. Simple. It won't work at the top level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 hours ago, northam soul said: So as things stand at the moment our starting 11 vs toon assuming 5 at the back for this will be. Lumley KWP, JS, THB, Bednarek, Manning Charles, Aribo, Smallbone Stewart Arma Subs from, Bree, Perraud, Lyanco, DCC, Kotchap, Charlie, Lallana, Kamaldeen, Tall Paul, Dibling, Sam Amo and Meghoma. Have I missed anyone? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1804948202329940062?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Fabrizio saying ABK is open to a new challenge and has changed his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 24 minutes ago, goodymatt said: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1804948202329940062?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Fabrizio saying ABK is open to a new challenge and has changed his agent. Good, he can fck off. By new challenge, does he mean actually completing a season and looking interested? Edited June 23 by ErwinK1961 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugenhagen Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, goodymatt said: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1804948202329940062?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Fabrizio saying ABK is open to a new challenge and has changed his agent. Good for him, as his career is in danger of stalling. Same challenge, year after year... about time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Wont be a loss, get our money back and find someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Good, ABK can leave - as can any of the players that buggered off on loan. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Japanese media reporting that we are in advanced talks with AZ Alkmaar to sign Yukinari Sugawara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1804948202329940062?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Fabrizio saying ABK is open to a new challenge and has changed his agent. Charlton would be a good fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 47 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Good, ABK can leave - as can any of the players that buggered off on loan. It’s not so much the going out on loan I have an issue with it’s the downing tools in our relegation season. ABK wasn’t up for the fight, he disappeared a few times with mystery injuries when the going get tough. We’re going to be in a relegation battle this season I don’t think he’s the sort of character we want in the squad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 17 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Japanese media reporting that we are in advanced talks with AZ Alkmaar to sign Yukinari Sugawara KWP replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: KWP replacement? On the face of it seems like a quality signing and we wouldn't be able to justify having him and KWP so you're probably right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSAINT Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: On the face of it seems like a quality signing and we wouldn't be able to justify having him and KWP so you're probably right. Unless we’re going KWP on the left to save money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 That's an exciting link for a change! My Dutch mate thinks he's class and said he was expecting him to get a better move. Bittersweet on KWP though unless we're planning on him being on the left permanently, both as wing-backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Unless we’re going KWP on the left to save money Or this lad is a bit shite and a Bree type of squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Unless we’re going KWP on the left to save money Obviously not going to play a rb out of position all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Obviously not going to play a rb out of position all season. Best chance of getting into the England squad but I’d agree, he’s a top half PL RB for me, I wouldn’t accept playing out of position all season when I can go elsewhere and likely earn more than we can offer. You’d expect our sales pitch to KWP would be building the team around him. He may well have let us know he won’t be signing an extension and then it’s up to us to manage that effectively. Be gutted to lose him though, love him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Unless we’re going KWP on the left to save money This is the only way I can see a scenario where we keep him if we sign this Japanese lad. Unfortunately I think he’s off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 6 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Best chance of getting into the England squad but I’d agree, he’s a top half PL RB for me, I wouldn’t accept playing out of position all season when I can go elsewhere and likely earn more than we can offer. You’d expect our sales pitch to KWP would be building the team around him. He may well have let us know he won’t be signing an extension and then it’s up to us to manage that effectively. Be gutted to lose him though, love him. He's been brilliant and is imo already a legend for staying last season. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 32 minutes ago, goodymatt said: KWP replacement? It’s what I thought straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Nolan said: Well done I would never of guessed that would be the case. It was to see our available squad and what needs to be done. I would imagine that most of our business especially in the getting rid department will be done at the end of the window. On that basis it is not too far fetched for this to be our opening day squad bar one or two additions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: This is the only way I can see a scenario where we keep him if we sign this Japanese lad. Unfortunately I think he’s off. Aren't the current Prem rules that we need to buy an inflated priced academy player from a side before they sign KWP? Edited June 23 by SuperSAINT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Aren't the current Prem rules that we need to by an inflated priced academy player from a side before they sign KWP? Very true 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 We can bring back our Japanese Twitter page at this rate. https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/249187374775549952 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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