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Kenilworthy

Kenilworthy

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29 minutes ago, JRM said:

To be fair our best signings have often been clever deals like Romeu, Livramento, Cork, etc, the bigger money deals tends to see us make expensive mistakes 

I think you are largely right on that. Charlie George for example, brilliant player but we seldom got the best out of him. Perhaps David Armstrong was our best ever big money signing - it was big back in 81 as he chose us over Manchester United. You could also cite Rickie, as that was a lot for a League One team to pay.

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Dellyears

Dellyears

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4 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said:

I think you are largely right on that. Charlie George for example, brilliant player but we seldom got the best out of him. Perhaps David Armstrong was our best ever big money signing - it was big back in 81 as he chose us over Manchester United. You could also cite Rickie, as that was a lot for a League One team to pay.

Charlie George was the sick note type, seldom fit, once out with a sore finger after cutting the grass. He took Lawrie Mac for a ride

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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21 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Bid in for Welington 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welington_(footballer)

Scouting report

https://targetscouting.com/2024/05/01/welington-sao-paulo-scout-report/

Welington has specific skills that make him an okay left-back in the Brazilian league, but this is also his ceiling. He is too poor defensively to make an impact in a significant European league. Welington is decent going forward but needs to improve his crossing and close control in tight spaces. In conclusion, there is a lot of work to do for the young Brazilian to become a strong player in the Brazilian league. 

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Badger

Badger

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29 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said:

I think you are largely right on that. Charlie George for example, brilliant player but we seldom got the best out of him. Perhaps David Armstrong was our best ever big money signing - it was big back in 81 as he chose us over Manchester United. You could also cite Rickie, as that was a lot for a League One team to pay.

I understood it was between us and Sunderland.

Agree with you though, tremendous signing.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Saints have put an offer in for Welington of Sao Paulo. He's a LB.

FFS, name me one good player to ever come out of South America?
 

Very Saintsy!

Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Scouting report

https://targetscouting.com/2024/05/01/welington-sao-paulo-scout-report/

Welington has specific skills that make him an okay left-back in the Brazilian league, but this is also his ceiling. He is too poor defensively to make an impact in a significant European league. Welington is decent going forward but needs to improve his crossing and close control in tight spaces. In conclusion, there is a lot of work to do for the young Brazilian to become a strong player in the Brazilian league. 

Not exactly a ringing endorsement. I have to say that his youtube video leaves me very unenthused.  

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Saint Matty 76

Saint Matty 76

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1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Man City possibly considering loaning out Rico Lewis. If we cash in on KWP, could he be a potential replacement?

Would be an absolutely excellent signing, with/without KWP as he could just move over to the left. 

I imagine he'd have a better option within the league, but maybe there'd be some sort of preference for him to play in a possession system like ours?

Seems unlikely, but I am intrigued to see how much use we can make out of our two PL loans this year.

Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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2 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Scouting report

https://targetscouting.com/2024/05/01/welington-sao-paulo-scout-report/

Welington has specific skills that make him an okay left-back in the Brazilian league, but this is also his ceiling. He is too poor defensively to make an impact in a significant European league. Welington is decent going forward but needs to improve his crossing and close control in tight spaces. In conclusion, there is a lot of work to do for the young Brazilian to become a strong player in the Brazilian league. 

6 Months left on his contract so should be a minimal risk fee although I agree he would be a little underwhelming. He seems to share the same weaknesses as Manning.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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15 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Would be an absolutely excellent signing, with/without KWP as he could just move over to the left. 

I imagine he'd have a better option within the league, but maybe there'd be some sort of preference for him to play in a possession system like ours?

Seems unlikely, but I am intrigued to see how much use we can make out of our two PL loans this year.

Good chance that those loans could be absolutely key to survival. Should allow us to get two top players. I'd go for a defender and AM and save our cash for a striker and Downes. 

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Challenger

Challenger

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2 hours ago, Dellyears said:

Charlie George was the sick note type, seldom fit, once out with a sore finger after cutting the grass. He took Lawrie Mac for a ride

A two finger aputation to be fair. Thought he would give his Flymo blade a flick when it jammed.

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revolution saint

revolution saint

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Apparently Brentford were sniffing round Welington last summer and Sao Paolo wanted 19M euros for him. That scouting report didn’t sound that promising so might just be an ambitious agent trying to talk him up a bit 

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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34 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Ossie Ardilles, Rickie Villa?

Di Stefano, Kempes, Aguero, Garrincha?

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VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

FFS, name me one good player to ever come out of South America?
 

Very Saintsy!

Pele (Edson Arantes do Nascimento) was quite good. Other players with a similar name not so much.

Badger

Badger

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3 hours ago, Toussaint said:

FFS, name me one good player to ever come out of South America?
 

Very Saintsy!

How could you forget Guly ? 

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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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2 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Man City possibly considering loaning out Rico Lewis. If we cash in on KWP, could he be a potential replacement?

Fun fact, we very nearly signed him a few seasons ago, but city pulled the plug very late on as he started getting a run in their first team. 

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Turkish

Turkish

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3 hours ago, Toussaint said:

FFS, name me one good player to ever come out of South America?
 

Very Saintsy!

Kleber Chala

fredrico Arias 

31cc

31cc

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3 hours ago, Toussaint said:

FFS, name me one good player to ever come out of South America?
 

Very Saintsy!

How can anyone forget the goal machine that was Augustin Delgado?

Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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Downes for less than £15 million would be an absolute steal. I'd pay £20 Million so if we end up getting Ings thrown in as well for that price, it's worth it IMO

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Nolan

Nolan

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12 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Scouting report

https://targetscouting.com/2024/05/01/welington-sao-paulo-scout-report/

Welington has specific skills that make him an okay left-back in the Brazilian league, but this is also his ceiling. He is too poor defensively to make an impact in a significant European league. Welington is decent going forward but needs to improve his crossing and close control in tight spaces. In conclusion, there is a lot of work to do for the young Brazilian to become a strong player in the Brazilian league. 

Sofascore

Directly compare defensive stats to Ryan Manning, and its an improvement.

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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14 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Downes for less than £15 million would be an absolute steal. I'd pay £20 Million so if we end up getting Ings thrown in as well for that price, it's worth it IMO

Utd after Alvarez from West Ham according to Fabrizio Romano.

egg

egg

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9 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Sofascore

Directly compare defensive stats to Ryan Manning, and its an improvement.

Absolutely pointless comparison. They play in different leagues. 

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