miserableoldgit Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said: And there’s the problem. Whilst I am not comparing them exactly, before anybody suggests it, are you suggesting that SAF, Pep, Klopp etc are not singleminded? They all have their way of playing and try to stick to it. It is the ability to successfully change during a game that make a great manager. I saw people saying at the beginning of last season saying that RM wouldn't get us promoted because he had never done it before.....conveniently forgetting that NO manager had got a team promoted until the first time that they did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 41 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Strikers that could be available to sign or loan from PL teams, which includes a bit of scraping the barrel: Wood/Awonyi - might fall down pecking order with Pedro coming in? Unlikely to be available. Emmanuel Dennis - did well at Watford Ings - rejected us already this summer Broja - can’t loan from Chelsea Antonio - one last dance? Maupay - Everton fans aren’t his favourites Nkhetia - looks off to Palace Evan Ferguson - injuries/unlikely Stansfield - looked sharp on loan at Brum but not experienced. You can see why we are looking outside the PL. Broja would suit us best but we can’t loan him. I do think Cameron Archer would have been on this list had we not already signed him. He’s a much better player than many posters think, but not the target man we crave. We should have signed Wood years ago. He is a very basic player but does what we need desperately. And as others have said, Josh Sargent would be worth looking at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Hopper said: I’d take a punt on Alberto over Broja any day of the week. Vastly more experienced with a much better goal to game ratio and only a hair older. Say what you want about broja but he has killer attributes .. lightning fast for a big man, strong and also a really composed finisher .. people bang on about him not doing much since us but if he had he would be a 70m player and way out of our league anyway .. Edited August 27 by pimpin4rizeal 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, pimpin4rizeal said: Say what you want about broja but he has killer attributes .. lightning fast for a big man, strong and also a really composed finisher .. people bang in about him not doing much since us bug if he had he would be a 70m player and way out of our league anyway .. So we should sign him because he's been shit since he left us and is therefore affordable? 🤔😅 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 19 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Pretty much! Was alot better vs Newcastle, even when 11v11. I let this slide earlier, but I see you've fallen back into your old ways of treating pedantry as some kind of competition to drown out the actual discussion. Fucking hell, give it a break! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Its hardly a surprise, where would you play him? Besides theyve bought in Big Lesley from Chelsea to play his role and that would be a total waste of a loan, plus theres Downes of course. We dont need anyone else who can pass sideways and slow the play down even further. I'd play him ahead of Smallbone or Aribo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Say what you want about broja but he has killer attributes .. lightning fast for a big man, strong and also a really composed finisher .. people bang on about him not doing much since us but if he had he would be a 70m player and way out of our league anyway .. So why isn't he currently utilising these abilties? What is the reason that he has done nothing since leaving us? Injury? He was never the same for us after the injury. Is he just sat around moping wait for us to call on him again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 6 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Say what you want about broja but he has killer attributes .. lightning fast for a big man, strong and also a really composed finisher .. people bang on about him not doing much since us but if he had he would be a 70m player and way out of our league anyway .. You could make this argument of a lot of players. Hypothetical =/= logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'd play him ahead of Smallbone or Aribo. But what about Les, Fernandes and Downes? Because that will be the starting midfield once they have settled in. Bringing JWP in would be George Burley levels of position stockpiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 What's happening with Bijlow, all gone a bit quiet? I see arsenal are pressing on with a Ramsdale replacement in Espanyol's Garcia. Still an option for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Sign a big fast striker whose been capped by brasil, is that even a question ? (yes this poor joke was intended) Sign me up, better than shopping in the usual bargain bin shops we usually get them from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 10 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Say what you want about broja but he has killer attributes .. lightning fast for a big man, strong and also a really composed finisher .. people bang on about him not doing much since us but if he had he would be a 70m player and way out of our league anyway .. Really? Are you his agent? He was never lightning fast before the nasty injury. 18 goals in nearly 100 club appearances (over half of which in the Dutch league), not screaming ‘really composed finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'd play him ahead of Smallbone or Aribo. Definitely. And keep it the same starters for as many games as injuries allow. Suga. Bedders. THB. KWP . Big Les Downes. Fernandes AA. Alberto. BBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: What's happening with Bijlow, all gone a bit quiet? I see arsenal are pressing on with a Ramsdale replacement in Espanyol's Garcia. Still an option for us? replacement for him comes on weds to sign so would guess we'd also announce then or thurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: Just saw a comment from a Brazil journalist that we first made contact with Corinthians for Yuri Alberto on 10th July 2024. So perhaps more of a longer term target than a last minute panic buy. Agree the bloopers videos and the consensus form their fans has Carillo/Lyanco style red flags a plenty. Interesting that he has been called up for Brazil and has previously had a big transfer fee and a few PL teams showing interest. Feels like we are gambling on him realising his early potential, a very SR signing. I’d much rather loan an experienced PL player for this key missing piece. Who is this experienced PL player? There's also a case for a young talented enthusiast trying to prove himself at top level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: But what about Les, Fernandes and Downes? Because that will be the starting midfield once they have settled in. Bringing JWP in would be George Burley levels of position stockpiling. My dyslexic brain read Les Ferdinand 😂 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: But what about Les, Fernandes and Downes? Because that will be the starting midfield once they have settled in. Bringing JWP in would be George Burley levels of position stockpiling. A MF of Downes and Les as a double pivot with JWP in a more advanced role would be a great deal better than what we have witnessed already this season. He would only be competing with Fernandes, who's still very much unproven in the PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, InvictaSaint said: Folk got very carried away with the blooper video but the skills video contains a lot of impressive stuff. Plus, his real world stats seem decent to me. Obviously there's no way of knowing how he would or would not adjust to the UK and the Prem but he's clearly a dude with bags of skill and potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Really? Are you his agent? He was never lightning fast before the nasty injury. 18 goals in nearly 100 club appearances (over half of which in the Dutch league), not screaming ‘really composed finisher. Did you not watch him when he was with us ? And you didn’t think he was composed or fast ? I’m not too bothered about what happened since because he’s been at Chelsea which isn’t a easy team to break into he’s still only a kid and the potential is super high 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Did you not watch him when he was with us ? And you didn’t think he was composed or fast ? I’m not too bothered about what happened since because he’s been at Chelsea which isn’t a easy team to break into he’s still only a kid and the potential is super high I watched him have a couple of decent matches and plenty where he vanished and was ineffective. The other point with Broja is that his style of play was very well suited to Hasenhuttl's pressing/counter attacking style. I don't think he's as good a fit for Russball in any case. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 6 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said: Folk got very carried away with the blooper video but the skills video contains a lot of impressive stuff. Plus, his real world stats seem decent to me. Obviously there's no way of knowing how he would or would not adjust to the UK and the Prem but he's clearly a dude with bags of skill and potential. from 2023 - https://www.scisports.com/scouting-gbe-qualified-talents-from-south-america/ current ai scouting - https://scoutingstats.ai/player/yuri-alberto-7481/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 24 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: replacement for him comes on weds to sign so would guess we'd also announce then or thurs. Thanks for that. Just seen the below update from Sky Sports 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Thanks for that. Just seen the below update from Sky Sports Given our record for signing injured players the due dilligence line is hysterical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 We've gone from people laying into the club because Ankersen is telling the club who to sign, including one of the players being someone who can't stand up and is the standard of Carillo to the fact that neither of these are true in 24 hours. Classic forum. Love it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Hopper said: My dyslexic brain read Les Ferdinand 😂 I saw that, does that mean that I'm dyslexic as well. Can you get PIP being dyslexic?, hope so. Edited August 27 by Saint Billy Dyslexic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 15 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: from 2023 - https://www.scisports.com/scouting-gbe-qualified-talents-from-south-america/ current ai scouting - https://scoutingstats.ai/player/yuri-alberto-7481/ Wow, his non pen xG looks pretty terrible for a Striker at 0.24 and that pie chart thing has his goal threat really low too. Chance creation isn't much better and goal efficiency only slightly better too. Still ball retention is pretty decent which will fit in well with our sideways and backwards passing style... Despite what that Saints Brazilian poster has said and his goal scoring stats which to be fair look ok, I'm still not convinced by this signing but I guess we will have to trust in Russ and the scouting team if they genuinely think this is the guy who will hopefully be that focal point up top we so desperately need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I can't say this window has made me over excited or confident we stay up but it looks pretty decent and I don't understand the negativity. We got Downes, signed two decent fullbacks, Lesley and Fernades are both clearly expected to be starters and are still integrating. We haven't lost anyone who would be good enough for starting 11 going forward - with possible exception of Che, who many didn't rate and we have added Archer, BDD and possibly new Brazilian. Sounds like goalkeeper will be significantly improved. It's seems many of those getting very upset about our start are people who were certain we would get relegated, get thrashed every game, and there was no way we would have decent possession this season. So far two 1-0 defeats, worrying no points or goals but not looking ridiculously out of our depth. I reckon we may well go down, but haven't written off RM or this squad yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, West end Saints said: I can't say this window has made me over excited or confident we stay up but it looks pretty decent and I don't understand the negativity. We got Downes, signed two decent fullbacks, Lesley and Fernades are both clearly expected to be starters and are still integrating. We haven't lost anyone who would be good enough for starting 11 going forward - with possible exception of Che, who many didn't rate and we have added Archer, BDD and possibly new Brazilian. Sounds like goalkeeper will be significantly improved. It's seems many of those getting very upset about our start are people who were certain we would get relegated, get thrashed every game, and there was no way we would have decent possession this season. So far two 1-0 defeats, worrying no points or goals but not looking ridiculously out of our depth. I reckon we may well go down, but haven't written off RM or this squad yet. I’d trade possession for goals any day. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said: I’d trade possession for goals any day. Hard to score without the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 16 minutes ago, Crouchie's Lawyer said: Wow, his non pen xG looks pretty terrible for a Striker at 0.24 and that pie chart thing has his goal threat really low too. Chance creation isn't much better and goal efficiency only slightly better too. Still ball retention is pretty decent which will fit in well with our sideways and backwards passing style... Despite what that Saints Brazilian poster has said and his goal scoring stats which to be fair look ok, I'm still not convinced by this signing but I guess we will have to trust in Russ and the scouting team if they genuinely think this is the guy who will hopefully be that focal point up top we so desperately need. If he can draw in defenders and leave space for AA or BBD to get a shot off I’m all for it. The REAL problem lies just there though…with Russball any shot has to go through 11 opposition players blocking as we’ve taken so f-ing long to get the ball to the forwards. Even Ronaldo would struggle! 😏😉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, MarkSFC said: Hard to score without the ball. The opposition never has a problem. 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: Surprised Russ just said no update on the GK situation, wasn’t Bijlow having his medical yesterday? Just not wanting to comment until it’s done or is there still a chance we do something different, such as Ramsdale? Probably the former. After the ABK medical leak debacle, I would guess he would not want to even mention Bijlow has been here for a medical in case he fails it (or more accurately, the results are not to the management's satisfiction). There might even be a possibility that we may want to change the terms of deal depending on those results...and as we know to our cost, the deal could easily fall through. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Chez said: After the ABK medical leak debacle, I would guess he would not want to even mention Bijlow has been here for a medical in case he fails it (or more accurately, the results are not to the management's satisfiction). There might even be a possibility that we may want to change the terms of deal depending on those results...and as we know to our cost, the deal could easily fall through. Ramsdale still seems to be a bit of a fallback option. Albeit expensive. It could be that if we end up with Ramsdale, it prevents a signing in a more attacking part of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 59 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said: Folk got very carried away with the blooper video but the skills video contains a lot of impressive stuff. Plus, his real world stats seem decent to me. Obviously there's no way of knowing how he would or would not adjust to the UK and the Prem but he's clearly a dude with bags of skill and potential. He defo had high potential a few years ago, he was monitored quite a lot. The Corinthians move just hasn't worked for him though, and he doesn't have a good rep out there on the back of it. Could be multiple things though as Corinthians have been a pretty poor side for a while, but he's certainly regressed over the last 18 months - which is the only reason we've got a chance I guess. It's certainly a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Chelsea going for Ivan Toney. Surely they have to offload a striker or two this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 39 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Given our record for signing injured players the due dilligence line is hysterical "How do you feel Justin?" "Fine, thank you" "Excellent, medical passed" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Chelsea going for Ivan Toney. Surely they have to offload a striker or two this window. I'd say of all their spending, that's one area they've never really sorted. Lots of forwards, but no real number 9's apart from Lukaku and Broja - and they're both off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, iansums said: "How do you feel Justin?" "Fine, thank you" "Excellent, medical passed" The deal is perhaps structured in a way our insurers like. After Stewart they might be looking at the risks we take in signing players, hence the 20 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Chelsea going for Ivan Toney. Surely they have to offload a striker or two this window. Lukaku is getting close to his move. We have seen they are happy to sell Broja. Jackson and Guiu won't be going anywhere. So that leaves David Forfana and Deivid Washington. Fancy either of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 5 hours ago, hypochondriac said: He literally was/is a school teacher. He's also autistic which is obvious to anyone who interacts with him for more than 2 minutes. Is autism a problem? That is a question - maybe not for this forum but your post reads as though it is a problem or something to poke fun at. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd say of all their spending, that's one area they've never really sorted. Lots of forwards, but no real number 9's apart from Lukaku and Broja - and they're both off anyway. No chance of a pay nothing now, but help their psr next season by obligation to buy deal if we stay up? Assuming they'd fit our system of course. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Chez said: Lukaku is getting close to his move. We have seen they are happy to sell Broja. Jackson and Guiu won't be going anywhere. So that leaves David Forfana and Deivid Washington. Fancy either of those? Nope. Besides, we have already loaned one player from Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, notnowcato said: Is autism a problem? That is a question - maybe not for this forum but your post reads as though it is a problem or something to poke fun at. Where did I say it's a problem? Or something to poke fun at? You've just made that up in your head. I said it's the cause of his posting style. I'd suggest his irritating way he posts and tendency to take everything literally is a product of his condition. He'd do well to listen to loads of posters who have told him how annoying they find it and his pedantry and he'd probably have a better experience on here as a result. Edited August 27 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Where did I say it's a problem? Or something to poke fun at? You've just made that up in your head. I said it's the cause of his posting style. I'd suggest his irritating way he posts and tendency to take everything literally is a product of his condition. He'd do well to listen to loads of posters who have told him how annoying they find it and his pedantry and he'd probably have a better experience on here as a result. Yeah, maybe it's the condescending tone I can't help but add to the majority of your posts. My bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imadirtyurchin Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 34 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Hard to score without the ball. Hard (for us) to score with the ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, notnowcato said: Yeah, maybe it's the condescending tone I can't help but add to the majority of your posts. My bad. No problem. Apology accepted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Stuttgart have signed a CB, presumably means they are now totally out on ABK too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Where did I say it's a problem? Or something to poke fun at? You've just made that up in your head. I said it's the cause of his posting style. I'd suggest his irritating way he posts and tendency to take everything literally is a product of his condition. He'd do well to listen to loads of posters who have told him how annoying they find it and his pedantry and he'd probably have a better experience on here as a result. He can be annoying, yes, but you suggesting (or raising) that he's autistic was bang out of order and completely unnecessary. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Nope. Besides, we have already loaned one player from Chelsea. I've lost track of the current situation, but are we actually looking to sign a striker - we just spent £15m on Archer - and if we are, does it have to be a loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: No problem. Apology accepted. Yeah, think you may have misread my post. MLG disappeared because the hate on here was pathetic, shallow and showed a complete lack of empathy - which is ironic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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