Saint Fan CaM Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) If Yuri Alberto is the answer, who knows what the question is? 🤣 Edited August 26 by Saint Fan CaM Self moderation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 10 minutes ago, Orkney Saint said: Yeah, the potential price tag would be my main concern. They’ve just sold Idah and Rowe too, so will be even more keen to hang on to Sargent. As I said in an earlier post, I would’ve liked us to sign him when we were relegated. When you look at Palace signing Eddie Nketiah for £25 million (plus £5million add ons) it shows that Sargent simply wouldn't be good value (or would just be too much of a risk, there's nothing saying he wouldn't make a Prem striker, just too much of a risk in a season where we need to stay up). I'm not saying Nketiah is the answer for us either, just that the money is probably the same for him and for what Norwich would want for Sargent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, The Cat said: I take those quotes to mean he's negotiating the wages, fees etc. There's nothing to suggest he's recommending the players or anything. I fail to see what the problem is here? I don’t think there is a problem. Just some dimwits excited because they think their scapegoat is back. Two games in transfer window still open and the bedwetting has kicked in already. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 29 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: If Yuri Alberto is the answer, who knows what the question is? 🤣 https://www.sambafoot.com/blog/analysis/cies-pedro-paulinho-and-yuri-alberto-the-most-valuable-footballers-in-the-brasileirao-2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 11 minutes ago, manji said: I don’t think there is a problem. Just some dimwits excited because they think their scapegoat is back. Two games in transfer window still open and the bedwetting has kicked in already. I'm surprised you're still so upbeat considering you were tipping us for ramsdale and o'riley and we've got neither. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'm surprised you're still so upbeat considering you were tipping us for ramsdale and o'riley and we've got neither. I never said we were getting them in fact if I remember I said I was living in hope. I have to say I am pissed off with Brighton signing him. Hopefully they are overstretching themselves and will collapse in a big heap. As others have mentioned it was that long ago they didn’t have a ground. There’s nothing I’d like better than see Brighton and the bucket rattlers fail 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 11 minutes ago, manji said: I never said we were getting them in fact if I remember I said I was living in hope. I have to say I am pissed off with Brighton signing him. Hopefully they are overstretching themselves and will collapse in a big heap. As others have mentioned it was that long ago they didn’t have a ground. There’s nothing I’d like better than see Brighton and the bucket rattlers fail I know you never claimed it as fact. You're normally a realistic poster, you must see how deficient we are in certain areas of the squad and I don't think believe you think that's going to be solved by this striker? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiknsmack Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, LeG said: Is this Brazilian fella not going to one of our big sister clubs? By the sounds of things he's not good enough for the French third tier. Goztepe could use another CF, but if we fail to sell Tall Paul and Martin has no interest in using him then there's an obvious match there since he's proven in Turkey (15 in 21 last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Ciervo Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: No. He’s pony Sargent seems to auto-score on us, if I recall. Bring me the pony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Brazilian Alpine speaks: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Guess the club really are planning to go back down and get promoted again with a stronger side if we're signing another Brazilian who will need to go to Goztepe for a year before he can play for us. Next summer in the championship we'll have 4 or 5 players coming back from loan to them eligible to play for us all of a sudden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Wouldn't shock me at all if someone comes in and tempts us for Kyle this week. £20Million can do alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 6 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Wouldn't shock me at all if someone comes in and tempts us for Kyle this week. £20Million can do alot. Losing kwp now we might as well pack up and go home. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Losing kwp now we might as well pack up and go home. The board would definitely consider a £20Million bid, would be silly not too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Wouldn't shock me at all if someone comes in and tempts us for Kyle this week. £20Million can do alot. Us fans would obviously love him to stay even if he runs his contract down but money talks and unless he signs the contract, he's gone if someone comes in for him. With Suga at RB and Bree as backup, we're fine there but Taylor and Manning are a step down on the left, particularly if we persevere with wing backs. It's possible we're holding on to Larios for this possibility. If the sale of KWP allowed us to bring in a decent winger/AM/striker, it wouldn't be the worst thing but I hope he stays. Even better if he signs the contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: The board would definitely consider a £20Million bid, would be silly not too. What's the point in banking the money now that many of the promising players have gone elsewhere and we haven't spent more than 18 million on one player this entire window. If it happens I'll start seriously considering the possibility that we aren't making any serious attempt to survive this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Would rather loan or buy Ings than buy some shite Brazilian reserve who has two left feet. What the fuck are our scouting team smoking? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) West ham are terminating Ings contract? Surely we should go in for him..... Why are we stockpiling shit Brazilian players? Are we trying to replicate the Wolves model? And have a team of Brazilian maestro's 🤣 Jesus Wept! Stop trying to be clever and get us Ings or a flaming Ings replacement we have been crying out for like 3 seasons now..... Edited August 27 by ally_uk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: What's the point in banking the money now that many of the promising players have gone elsewhere and we haven't spent more than 18 million on one player this entire window. If it happens I'll start seriously considering the possibility that we aren't making any serious attempt to survive this year. We'd be nuts not to take money for him rather than giving him away free next year. There's also the FFP gain of getting cash for him. I'm surprised he's still here to be honest, but unless he signs a contract extension (even just a year), him going this week feels inevitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, egg said: We'd be nuts not to take money for him rather than giving him away free next year. There's also the FFP gain of getting cash for him. I'm surprised he's still here to be honest, but unless he signs a contract extension (even just a year), him going this week feels inevitable. Right but given the short amount of time left in the window and the objective presumably of staying up this season, does anyone think a kwp sale now is going to improve our chances? I was resigned to losing him but it's now reached the point where we are really going to struggle to replace him and we should consider keeping him until at least January imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, egg said: We'd be nuts not to take money for him rather than giving him away free next year. There's also the FFP gain of getting cash for him. I'm surprised he's still here to be honest, but unless he signs a contract extension (even just a year), him going this week feels inevitable. £20Million enables to bring someone in who wasn't obtainable too prior. I think deadline day this year is going to go nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Right but given the short amount of time left in the window and the objective presumably of staying up this season, does anyone think a kwp sale now is going to improve our chances? I was resigned to losing him but it's now reached the point where we are really going to struggle to replace him and we should consider keeping him until at least January imo. Selling KWP won't be the difference between staying up or going down imo - he's been replaced by Suga, and our issues are further up the pitch and our mental tactics. Regardless, we ain't going to let him leave for free if we can get big cash. Even if we don't reinvest the cash this window, it helps FFP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, manji said: https://www.sambafoot.com/blog/analysis/cies-pedro-paulinho-and-yuri-alberto-the-most-valuable-footballers-in-the-brasileirao-2024 Well if he is valued at €24m then we’ve got next to no chance of signing him I would imagine. Not unless they’re confident of the sales of TP, Charley and at least one other…perhaps KWP. I’m surprised he’s anywhere near a top ten of Brazilian goal scorers, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, manji said: I don’t think there is a problem. Just some dimwits excited because they think their scapegoat is back. Two games in transfer window still open and the bedwetting has kicked in already. So you are a big fan of Ankerson then and rated what he did for us last time he got involved in our transfer activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ally_uk said: West ham are terminating Ings contract? That isn't a question. Edited August 27 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imadirtyurchin Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 38 minutes ago, ally_uk said: West ham are terminating Ings contract? Surely we should go in for him..... Why are we stockpiling shit Brazilian players? Are we trying to replicate the Wolves model? And have a team of Brazilian maestro's 🤣 Jesus Wept! Stop trying to be clever and get us Ings or a flaming Ings replacement we have been crying out for like 3 seasons now..... Ings isn’t the same player that he was when he was with us. Age and injury have caught up with him - plus I don’t think he’s that motivated (Particularly to play for us) there’s reasons why he doesn’t play and doesn’t score anymore. Do not touch with a barge pole. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 29 minutes ago, egg said: Selling KWP won't be the difference between staying up or going down imo From what I've seen in the first two games, I would be inclined to disagree with you there. He's easily our player and has been running the show in the opening matches... Head and shoulders above most of the squad. The difference between staying up and going down this season is likely to come down to a few points, at most, and I feel losing KWP diminishes our chances of staying up. The only caveat to that is whether or not we're able to reinvest the £20m in a player who can be equally influential (in whatever position) but SR's track record to-date would suggest that's not guaranteed. If we're serious about staying up then banking £20m now instead of letting KWP go on a free this time next year is a potential false economy IMO. Of course, if we're resigned to the likelihood of going straight back down then, I agree, getting as much as we can for KWP now makes complete sense... Edited August 27 by trousers 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: What's the point in banking the money now that many of the promising players have gone elsewhere and we haven't spent more than 18 million on one player this entire window. If it happens I'll start seriously considering the possibility that we aren't making any serious attempt to survive this year. We wouldn’t have signed THB, Downes. Big Les on loan, Fernandes if that was the case. But signing an injury prone keeper with a 20 game clause why not a fit one? A Brazilian who looks a shocker makes me think we have lost plot. Is our recruitment now suddenly based on who can fit Saints and Goztepe? There isn’t a better centre forward in the whole of Scandinavia, Korea, Japan or Europe better than this guy for 3m loan fee? I get we are skint . Of course we want to stay up but bloody hell with stupid tactics and our sudden nuts recruitment we are making it hard too. Edited August 27 by Give it to Ron 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. For the love of god, stop. If you’re going to unleash your pedantry on correcting sentence structure and grammar we may as well close the site. 22 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Blooming 'eck. The meltdown on here is hilarious. Get a grip. It was only one game ago when pundits were praising Saints' Performance against Newcastle. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 20 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. Feel free to resume your spamming of threads if you must MLG, but no need to be a pedantic idiot. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob60 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) What a place this has become, anyone reading this would think we are down already Saturday was poor, awful setup playing the front two so wide but this looked good and we created chances away at Newcastle. Both games could have been draws apart from individual mistakes. As for transfers, we have signed some good players, it will take time to gel as a team, some are for the future, some, like the Japanese midfielder, we would not get without being able to use the Turkish team for a year, he may be a diamond who knows. As for the proposed Brazilian striker, he may also work out or flop but what are the choices. It's the market we have to work in. Broja for£30 million? He had had six good months then nothing, Sargent for£20 million, we have three forwards who have done it in the championship already. Just give it some time for pity sake. Edited August 27 by Bob60 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) Could be worse. I had a dream that Walcott wanted back in and we were considering it. Edited August 27 by hypochondriac 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. That isn't a reply that offers any enlightment. Do you consider this as a question, are you a failed school teacher 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lambtiss said: That isn't a reply that offers any enlightment. Do you consider this as a question, are you a failed school teacher 🤣 He literally was/is a school teacher. He's also autistic which is obvious to anyone who interacts with him for more than 2 minutes. Edited August 27 by hypochondriac 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Can we stick to our meltdown rather than some personal traits please 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Can we stick to our meltdown rather than some personal traits please Yes, I think we're quite entitled to start our meltdown. a) Remember that January shopping window a couple of years ago when SR went in to panic buy mode? A goal-keeper with weak wrists and a striker that on the surface looks like a joke, is negating all the good work of the transfer so far. b) I don't buy in to this idea of 'give us time, we have to find our feet in this new league'. Those tactics on Saturday were so negative and so lacking of ideas and that was a real concern. That again resembled our last season in the premier league when, if there was a passing sideways and backwards league table, we would have been top. Things need to change. Personally, I'm pinning hope on Les and Fernandes being inspired signings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said: think deadline day this year is going to go nuts. Can we be sure that the owners have put ink in the fax machine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkswood Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 45 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. Look dude, I never respond to you for obvious reasons, but surely you can help yourself here. You must be able to realise when there is no need to respond to something. For you own self preservation, please stop and think before you post something. Peace out. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 35 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Could be worse. I had a dream that Walcott wanted back in and we were considering it. I also had a dream that Lallana had returned.............................oh!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft8saint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I find it really strange we are only being linked with one attacking option right now. Is the market barren with options right now surely there something better available? ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 11 hours ago, 6ft8saint said: Also didn't we sell 140m of players to other clubs jwp/lavia/tino I get there's 80m gap and relegation to consider but we still got balloon payments. It just feels the gap has got bigger Responding to your two posts: JWP + Tino + Lavia = £102 million. And the Brighton figure was for four players! The “dog shite” comment was about two to three years of poor value signings. Orsic, Tall Paul, Kamaldeen, Diallo, Lyanco, DCC, the list goes on. The gap is absolutely MASSIVE now and that is because Brighton have made good choices and we have made woeful ones. Look at their managerial appointments over recent years compared to ours. It won’t be like this for ever, but right now this is where we are at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 10 hours ago, Orkney Saint said: After seeing the Alberto videos, can I still tempt anyone with Josh Sargent? 😏 P.S. I’m not Sargent’s agent, honest! 😁 Saint Clark is a big fan of his 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft8saint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Forester said: Responding to your two posts: JWP + Tino + Lavia = £102 million. And the Brighton figure was for four players! The “dog shite” comment was about two to three years of poor value signings. Orsic, Tall Paul, Kamaldeen, Diallo, Lyanco, DCC, the list goes on. The gap is absolutely MASSIVE now and that is because Brighton have made good choices and we have made woeful ones. Look at their managerial appointments over recent years compared to ours. It won’t be like this for ever, but right now this is where we are at. Lavia - 53m Tino - 32m Jwp 30m 115m Simple maffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft8saint Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Is the als as competitive as the Brazilian league surely this guy is as goone based on goals scored Cucho Henandez 13 goals in 18matches and 6 assists contract due soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. I thought it was? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: That isn't a question. it categorically was a question. Signified by the Question mark at the end. "West ham are terminating Ings contract?" denotes surprise and its quite easy to ascertain the meaning. next time try saying it out loud and raising the pitch of your voice on the last syllable. Edited August 27 by Nolan 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: West ham are terminating Ings contract? Surely we should go in for him..... Why are we stockpiling shit Brazilian players? Are we trying to replicate the Wolves model? And have a team of Brazilian maestro's 🤣 Jesus Wept! Stop trying to be clever and get us Ings or a flaming Ings replacement we have been crying out for like 3 seasons now..... He doesn't want to come back. Or at least didn't at the start of the window. Move on from Ings. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 11 hours ago, Orkney Saint said: After seeing the Alberto videos, can I still tempt anyone with Josh Sargent? 😏 P.S. I’m not Sargent’s agent, honest! 😁 We should have signed him last year imo. Good player. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldandtired Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 9 hours ago, manji said: I never said we were getting them in fact if I remember I said I was living in hope. I have to say I am pissed off with Brighton signing him. Hopefully they are overstretching themselves and will collapse in a big heap. As others have mentioned it was that long ago they didn’t have a ground. There’s nothing I’d like better than see Brighton and the bucket rattlers fail To be fair I wish we displayed the same ambition and imagination as Brighton have in both player signings and managerial appointments. Unfortunately in my opinion they seem to have got a lot right of what we have seemingly got wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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