Wade Garrett Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 5 hours ago, petermcpete said: I asked my Flamengo supporting mate, he said: "He reminds me of Paqueta, but without the dribbling. He is less skillful but with a lot of game awareness." Just got to hope he doesn't also like a flutter 😬 I’ve just spoken to my Flamenco supporting mate. He said - you give him the ball, he go here, here, here, here, goal! Only joking, he’s a reserve, can’t get in the team and we’re trying to pull your pants down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball boy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 4 hours ago, CSA96 said: Eredivisie discussion from some Dutch fans on the idea of Bijlow to Saints - some interesting comments if you run through translation in browser: ‘Southampton have blind scouts’ is a bit of a worrying comment in that selection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Re Clarke links - I can't see us going above £20m for him and sounds like Ipswich are close to that with their latest offer. However - we really do need to add a player in the wide areas that looks capable and scoring and assisting, and Clarke definitely does that. Our current wide options of Edozie, Kamaldeen and SAA for various reasons won't get enough goals and assists and it puts so much pressure on BBD, Arma and Archer because lets face it they look like needing to score about 80% of our goal total and would nees at least one to hit double figures to have much of a chance. Also interesting that so many of our current option playa from and prefer the left (just Arma and SAA on the right). Clarke is another left sider but we were clearly in for JRS who is a right sided player and that Pardo guy from Gent too. As others have said, handy to have that 2nd PL loan spot free buts whether loan or perm we need to add a player likely to provide end product - with CM and GK seemingly resolved this is our last key position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, CSA96 said: Eredivisie discussion from some Dutch fans on the idea of Bijlow to Saints - some interesting comments if you run through translation in browser: 'Southampton has millions to spend on Bijlow' Seems like a good solution for everyone. Great club with a coach who uses the same ball possession principles as Slot, which Bijlow feels comfortable with, and they have enough money to pay a good transfer fee and to meet Bijlow's salary demands. At Feyenoord he is the absolute top earner and (+ to a lesser extent due to the departure of Lopez and Pedersen) a lot of salary is suddenly freed up to continue with 1-3 direct reinforcements (incl. new goalkeeper) and a possible extension of Geertruida. [76 upvotes] Indeed. There is a good chance that he will just stay fit now and everyone will kick themselves later, but Feyenoord cannot continue to take that gamble. Wellenreuther is a very solid keeper who also makes mistakes now and then but is relatively reliable and comfortable with a high line in front of him. I wonder what we will wear behind him. [32 upvotes] I don't really think so. Southampton is my second club that I follow, so I can confirm the things that I say. They need a goalkeeper who is ready to go right away, and preferably someone as a temporary stopgap until Bazunu is fit again. He is the project that Southampton have invested a lot in and the number 1 for the long term. Bijlow's injury history really doesn't fit in with that.[6 upvotes] Well, I still prefer Bijlow as first keeper, but his injuries have become a continuous issue. I honestly think he is better than Wellenreuther, but unfortunately it is probably the best for both parties [25 upvotes] He is, but he also earns a lot more than Wellenreuther and Feyenoord can no longer afford to have him out again, while his salary could have also been used to pay for good field reinforcements. [10 upvotes] Great opportunity for Bijlow. He is a better keeper than Wellenreuther but his salary is increasing, so a departure is logical. Hopefully he will actually become the first keeper there and he will remain injury-free. Also like a nice farewell in De Kuip. Real club man and still successful with multiple titles, cups and Cruijff cups. Will miss him. [6 upvotes] Southampton have blind scouts? [1 upvote] ------------------ I think it may be a mis-interoperation to just describe this discussion as "Southampton have blind scouts?" Only quoting this line is like away fans reading Wade's entertaining pre-match rant and believing all Saints fans hate their city 😉 Edited August 22 by Patches O Houlihan missing word 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 11 minutes ago, Dusic said: Re Clarke links - I can't see us going above £20m for him and sounds like Ipswich are close to that with their latest offer. However - we really do need to add a player in the wide areas that looks capable and scoring and assisting, and Clarke definitely does that. Our current wide options of Edozie, Kamaldeen and SAA for various reasons won't get enough goals and assists and it puts so much pressure on BBD, Arma and Archer because lets face it they look like needing to score about 80% of our goal total and would nees at least one to hit double figures to have much of a chance. Also interesting that so many of our current option playa from and prefer the left (just Arma and SAA on the right). Clarke is another left sider but we were clearly in for JRS who is a right sided player and that Pardo guy from Gent too. As others have said, handy to have that 2nd PL loan spot free buts whether loan or perm we need to add a player likely to provide end product - with CM and GK seemingly resolved this is our last key position. Crouchie's Lawyer a few posts back made a great arguement against this which I agree with: BBD plays best from the left, Arma plays best from the right. Both players can play well together (see Blackburn & last game vs Newcastle) if we play 5-3-2 you'll need to drop one for your new winger, and that would leave one of them AND Archer on the bench. Alternatively we play 4-3-3 with BBD and Arma wide and Archer up the middle (or Stewart, or miraculous deadline day loanee) So where does the winger fit there? We currently have 6 good options for 3 midfield spots, plus Dibling, SAA, Edozie, Sulemana & Larios. Maybe the last 2 or 3 of those might find other homes but either way I think £20m is better spent on a 2024 Pelle than a winger we don't need. Feel free to make your argument that I am wrong 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 37 minutes ago, Ball boy said: ‘Southampton have blind scouts’ is a bit of a worrying comment in that selection. Are they wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Are they wrong ? Do you think our business has been performed by blind scouts this summer? Or last summer? Or last January? There's an argument that the last woeful window we had was January 2023: When yes our transfer business was performed by an ego maniac intent on shooting both his feet off with a double barrelled shotgun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.Johnathan.Wilson Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Ball boy said: ‘Southampton have blind scouts’ is a bit of a worrying comment in that selection. Its reddit you always get comments like "player bad" or "ur scout is dumb" with no context. For what he brings, bone injuries from no regard for one's safety can be mitigated, calf last season a bit iffy, but no hamstring injuries and small to moderate knee injuries over 3 years ago is a much safe bet in comparison to Ross Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) I’m still perplexed about this wide man search. I believe Saints still feel in Sam Edozie we have a potential superstar. AA likes to play from the Right Wing. BBD likes to play from the Left Wing. SAA can play either and is a highly rated young prospect already in senior squad. KS is a high fee disappointment of a winger who has the speed but not the end product - but is still young and has potential. Tyler Dibling can play similar positions to both AA and BBD ( and any AMF or new winger we buy closes starting opportunities for him..) I’m confident RF will join on final day of season if we are that desperate for another wide player. We’ve just bought Archer who is not a conventional nine also. So what’s with the Rak Sakai and Jack Clarke stuff? Good players - but we already have good players in those positions. Surely a goal keeper and a central goal scoring attacker are the two priorities at this juncture? Or has RM really decided we are playing false nine’s all season long??? …or are Saints holding out that our injured RS will come good and fill that #9 sized gap at some stage so do not need blow the money on it? Plausible but risky especially given Paul is likely leaving shortly. PS anyone else thought that TP would probably have buried the headed chance that Archer had late on Saturday? It looked like the ideal set for a big man to put away. Edited August 22 by gio1saints 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Patches O Houlihan said: Crouchie's Lawyer a few posts back made a great arguement against this which I agree with: BBD plays best from the left, Arma plays best from the right. Both players can play well together (see Blackburn & last game vs Newcastle) if we play 5-3-2 you'll need to drop one for your new winger, and that would leave one of them AND Archer on the bench. Alternatively we play 4-3-3 with BBD and Arma wide and Archer up the middle (or Stewart, or miraculous deadline day loanee) So where does the winger fit there? We currently have 6 good options for 3 midfield spots, plus Dibling, SAA, Edozie, Sulemana & Larios. Maybe the last 2 or 3 of those might find other homes but either way I think £20m is better spent on a 2024 Pelle than a winger we don't need. Feel free to make your argument that I am wrong I see the thinking and don't overly disagree but it still means there are basically three goalscoring players in the whole squad and neither of those three are particularly creative. If one of those gets injured or is in poor form, or you want to change things from the bench (when facing a low block like vs Newcastle) then the first options will be Edozie, Kamaldeen etc - players who will not be a difference maker in the PL because they weren't in the Champ. BBD and Arma suit coming in from wide areas but they aren't natural wide players, and aren't really creative players who will break down a defence - different skillsets to the wide players we have been linked with. There is space to have both BBD/Arma and an alternative option. The more threats the better as we seem light on creativity and goals. MOR would have helped that but he is going elsewhere and Fernandes is a differenr type. Clarke would suit our style very well and has a proven history of scoring goals - we have tracked him for ages so would be a blow if Ipswich get him. Re spending £20m on a Pelle type - we won't. We signed Archer who is a striker. Edited August 22 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 50 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: Do you think our business has been performed by blind scouts this summer? Or last summer? Or last January? There's an argument that the last woeful window we had was January 2023: When yes our transfer business was performed by an ego maniac intent on shooting both his feet off with a double barrelled shotgun Yes but can you prove they aren't blind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 4 minutes ago, Dusic said: I see the thinking and don't overly disagree but it still means there are basically three goalscoring players in the whole squad and neither of those three are particularly creative. If one of those gets injured or is in poor form, or you want to change things from the bench (when facing a low block like vs Newcastle) then the first options will be Edozie, Kamaldeen etc - players who will not be a difference maker in the PL because they weren't in the Champ. BBD and Arma suit coming in from wide areas but they aren't natural wide players, and aren't really creative players who will break down a defence - different skillsets to the wide players we have been linked with. There is space to have both BBD/Arma and an alternative option. The more threats the better as we seem light on creativity and goals. Re spending £20m on a Pelle type - we won't. We signed Archer who is a striker. I could see the argument that we don't have a Tadic. Would your opinion change if we swapped Alcaraz for Victor Hugo? Do you think Fernandes might be able to provide some creative output? Will signing Big Les allow Flynn to play up a bit more? He created 3 chances at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 13 minutes ago, gio1saints said: No idea what the hell you are going on about!!? Too many abbreviations and TLAs (3 letter abbreviations) I’m still perplexed about this wide man search. I believe Saints still feel in Sam Edozie we have a potential superstar. AA likes to play from the Right Wing. BBD likes to play from the Left Wing. SAA can play either and is a highly rated young prospect already in senior squad. KS is a high fee disappointment of a winger who has the speed but not the end product - but is still young and has potential. Tyler Dibling can play similar positions to both AA and BBD ( and any AMF or new winger we buy closes starting opportunities for him..) I’m confident RF will join on final day of season if we are that desperate for another wide player. We’ve just bought Archer who is not a conventional nine also. So what’s with the Rak Sakai and Jack Clarke stuff? Good players - but we already have good players in those positions. Surely a goal keeper and a central goal scoring attacker are the two priorities at this juncture? Or has RM really decided we are playing false nine’s all season long??? …or are Saints holding out that our injured RS will come good and fill that #9 sized gap at some stage so do not need blow the money on it? Plausible but risky especially given Paul is likely leaving shortly. PS anyone else thought that TP would probably have buried the headed chance that Archer had late on Saturday? It looked like the ideal set for a big man to put away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 17 minutes ago, gio1saints said: I’m still perplexed about this wide man search. I believe Saints still feel in Sam Edozie we have a potential superstar. AA likes to play from the Right Wing. BBD likes to play from the Left Wing. SAA can play either and is a highly rated young prospect already in senior squad. KS is a high fee disappointment of a winger who has the speed but not the end product - but is still young and has potential. Tyler Dibling can play similar positions to both AA and BBD ( and any AMF or new winger we buy closes starting opportunities for him..) I’m confident RF will join on final day of season if we are that desperate for another wide player. We’ve just bought Archer who is not a conventional nine also. So what’s with the Rak Sakai and Jack Clarke stuff? Good players - but we already have good players in those positions. Surely a goal keeper and a central goal scoring attacker are the two priorities at this juncture? Or has RM really decided we are playing false nine’s all season long??? …or are Saints holding out that our injured RS will come good and fill that #9 sized gap at some stage so do not need blow the money on it? Plausible but risky especially given Paul is likely leaving shortly. PS anyone else thought that TP would probably have buried the headed chance that Archer had late on Saturday? It looked like the ideal set for a big man to put away. The wideman purchase is dependant on getting rid of Sulemana. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsmith Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Be good to know what's going on with Walker-Peters and Bednerak. Assuming Bednerak is close to signing an extension because everything has gone quiet, and maybe WP too as his options seem limited if he wants to start in premier league. Could do a Che and go abroad but seems less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 21 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: I could see the argument that we don't have a Tadic. Would your opinion change if we swapped Alcaraz for Victor Hugo? Do you think Fernandes might be able to provide some creative output? Will signing Big Les allow Flynn to play up a bit more? He created 3 chances at Newcastle. Don't see Hugo as being a first team starting option. Downes is not a replacement for a creative player. Fernandes looks like he will add something going forward but judging from his record he isnt going to be getting 7 or 8 goals and a few assists. Someone like Clarke possibly would. There is definitely a need for a player like this in the final third. He is quite expensive but after about 3 good games in the PL will be worth more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 11 minutes ago, Bobsmith said: Be good to know what's going on with Walker-Peters and Bednerak. Assuming Bednerak is close to signing an extension because everything has gone quiet, and maybe WP too as his options seem limited if he wants to start in premier league. Could do a Che and go abroad but seems less likely. I can see one or both ending up at Palace very late in the window... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Dusic said: Re spending £20m on a Pelle type - we won't. We signed Archer who is a striker. "Striker" is a broad term. Are we sure that Archer is a "Pelle" (or Lambert... Or Ings...) type? From what I've seen, he's more of a 'No.10' type striker rather than a 'No.9'...? I still think we need a 'proper' centre forward to complete the set... (Stewart would of course be that man, if he wasn't perpetually "two weeks away"...) Edited August 22 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 26 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: The wideman purchase is dependant on getting rid of Sulemana. Now that would be impressive if we found a buyer for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Sky seem to think we had a bid rejected for Clarke earlier in the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 It’s been a positive window for sure, but we’re still very short in the final third at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Perhaps Victor Hugo can be a Portuguese speaking buddy for Mateus Fernandes. Will Victor Hugo be eligible for a work permit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, Disco Stu said: Perhaps Victor Hugo can be a Portuguese speaking buddy for Mateus Fernandes. Will Victor Hugo be eligible for a work permit? Charley was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 28 minutes ago, Dusic said: Don't see Hugo as being a first team starting option. - Fair enough Downes is not a replacement for a creative player. - Yes I agree, but he does like to play a through ball and BBD/Archer/Arma all thrive on those Fernandes looks like he will add something going forward but judging from his record he isn't going to be getting 7 or 8 goals and a few assists. He would appear to be another quality through ball merchant Someone like Clarke possibly would. There is definitely a need for a player like this in the final third. He is quite expensive but after about 3 good games in the PL will be worth more anyway. Personally I think that Edozie needs to go on loan to the Championship. His skillset is not going to regularly beat PL defenders, and even when he does, historically he hasn't been able to find a Saints player with a pass - and that will only get harder playing against better defenders. Sulemana - do we need a specialist psychologist or trainer for him? He's been hopeless for us, but you see glimpses of a very special player in training videos. I guess only RM & his staff can really answer that. Dibling got pushed off the ball a bit against Newcastle, but hopefully he'll learn from that. SAA I also think is worth having around. If one or both of Edozie & Sulemana depart for cash then I can see us getting a winger. What concerns me is that against a big solid defence at St James's Park, Archer and Arma (and to a lesser extent BBD) looked swamped. We needed a big strong physical centre forward (not Tall Paul). In that situation last season a fully fit, athletic Ross Stewart would have been just the ticket. But of course there is a big question mark about that this season. That's why if funds are limited I would prefer a solid centre forward before a winger. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, gio1saints said: PS anyone else thought that TP would probably have buried the headed chance that Archer had late on Saturday? It looked like the ideal set for a big man to put away. He certainly would’ve buried that BBD header from Sugawara’s cross in the first half. BBD really should’ve scored that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: He certainly would’ve buried that BBD header from Sugawara’s cross in the first half. BBD really should’ve scored that. Yeah I had Che Adams flashbacks with that chance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 After watching Conor Gallaghers introduction at Athletico Madrid, I sure hope we do something similar for our last minute of deadline day loan signing of a striker (cough Danny Ings cough). https://x.com/atletiuniverse/status/1826358860627759506?t=Zhx00_nPeiAAtO9ceQ8h4w&s=19 The motorbikes were a nice touch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 4 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: He certainly would’ve buried that BBD header from Sugawara’s cross in the first half. BBD really should’ve scored that. Two headers in the six yard box for TP. At 6ft 7” He probably dominates the challenge gets over the ball and we score at least one and we draw or go on to win. That archer effort for example came off top of his head. TP places that in the corner due to his extra height. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, Saint NL said: After watching Conor Gallaghers introduction at Athletico Madrid, I sure hope we do something similar for our last minute of deadline day loan signing of a striker (cough Danny Ings cough). https://x.com/atletiuniverse/status/1826358860627759506?t=Zhx00_nPeiAAtO9ceQ8h4w&s=19 The motorbikes were a nice touch. No pressure! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Two headers in the six yard box for TP. At 6ft 7” He probably dominates the challenge gets over the ball and we score at least one and we draw or go on to win. That archer effort for example came off top of his head. TP places that in the corner due to his extra height. He didn't at Gillingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 4 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: No pressure! 😁 I much preffered the days when the first you heard of a new signings was when it was on the back of the echo, much better than all this nonsense 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: The wideman purchase is dependant on getting rid of Sulemana. You mean get him loaned out? That would help. Maybe he could re find his mojo. Unlikely someone is going to buy our injured winger who has not played for ages. Unless it’s a dirt cheap price. More likely loan with option to buy like with Charlie to Juve. Edited August 22 by gio1saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polegategavin243 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: He didn't at Gillingham Or any of his other appearances on 2022/23 season. As with Archer on Saturday he was brought on to find a goal and the closest he got with a header was hitting the bar with a header that seemed as perfect to score with as you would get. It’s another example of a player not playing suddenly being presented as amazing and the saviour. Seems to be a fans eye view, almost like nostalgia, where the memory creates a better version of the historic events. On a forum, these ideas seem to build a head of steam and most forum uses then start to believe the memory/ concept and reinforce the false memory. He really looked hopelessly out of his depth and well below a premier level footballer, who through no fault of his own had been bought in by a struggling Premier League club. It suits him and the club to find a suitor and sell him before the end of the window so he can play in a league more suited to his attributes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 8 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: He didn't at Gillingham He did not get those kind of chances at Gillingham. We never chucked the ball into the box for that to happen. And he was playing in a crazy team. Not a settled team knows what’s what like we currently have ( pretty much). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 9 minutes ago, gio1saints said: He did not get those kind of chances at Gillingham. We never chucked the ball into the box for that to happen. And he was playing in a crazy team. Not a settled team knows what’s what like we currently have ( pretty much). I was there, and he did. Gillingham were 3-0 up, and packed the final third. Because we didn't have our first team out, they were trying whatever they could, and that included putting it in the mixer. I don't remember him even getting his head on one. The only player who made a difference that day was Charley who played like a man possessed. But even I can see that it doesn't look likely to work out for him at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: I was there, and he did. Gillingham were 3-0 up, and packed the final third. Because we didn't have our first team out, they were trying whatever they could, and that included putting it in the mixer. I don't remember him even getting his head on one. The only player who made a difference that day was Charley who played like a man possessed. But even I can see that it doesn't look likely to work out for him at Saints. I was there too and we hardly gave him a pass and certainly not a goal scoring opportunity. It was embarrassing all around how ignored he was. And how terrible whole team were except for one bit of Charlie skill. Yes TP had a couple of terrible first touches but frankly the storyline that he’s a shit player cannot play EPL has been way overdone. He can and does score goals if used intelligently. RM is pretty smart so I’m surprised he has not to date tried him out more. It’s a bit late now to see if it’s worth putting him in at the death for him to score. He will go to another club - and maybe score the goals we should be getting out of him if we were only cute enough and flexible enough to play to his strengths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Saint NL said: After watching Conor Gallaghers introduction at Athletico Madrid, I sure hope we do something similar for our last minute of deadline day loan signing of a striker (cough Danny Ings cough). https://x.com/atletiuniverse/status/1826358860627759506?t=Zhx00_nPeiAAtO9ceQ8h4w&s=19 The motorbikes were a nice touch. Nice low carbon footprint for that I bet! Good job we're off-setting it with those carboard straws at McDonalds! Edited August 22 by Sunglasses Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 32 minutes ago, Polegategavin243 said: Or any of his other appearances on 2022/23 season. As with Archer on Saturday he was brought on to find a goal and the closest he got with a header was hitting the bar with a header that seemed as perfect to score with as you would get. It’s another example of a player not playing suddenly being presented as amazing and the saviour. If that was at West Ham then I thought their GK pushed it onto the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Updated: Arsenal - 2 - £61m - Raya (£27m), Calafiori (£34m) Aston Villa - 8 - £150.7m - Dobbin (£9m), Archer (£15m), Maatsen (£35m), Barrenchea (£6.8m), Iling-Junior (£11.9m), Barkley (£5m), Philogene (£18m), Onana (£50m) Bournemouth - 6 - £86.95m - Sinisterra (£20m), Unal (£13m), Paulsen (£850k), Huijsen (£12.8m), Araujo (£8.6m), Evanilson (£31.7m) Brentford - 2 - £52.5m - Thiago (£30m), Carvalho (£22.5m) Brighton - 6 - £126.4m - Minteh (£30m), Wieffer (£25.4m), Cozier-Duberry (free), Yalcouye (£6m), Gruda (£25m), Rutter (£40m) Chelsea - 10 - £207.2m - Adarabioyo (free), Kellyman (£19m), Guiu (£5m), Dewsbury-Hall (£30m), Veiga (£12m), Wiley (£8.5m), Jorgensen (£20.7m), Anselmino (£15.6m), Neto (£51.4m), Felix (£45m) Crystal Palace - 3 - £22.7m - Riad (£10.2m), Kamada (free), Sarr (£12.5m) Everton - 5 - £40.4m - Iroegbunam (£9m), Harrison (loan), Ndiaye (£15m), Lindstrom (loan), O'Brien (£16.4m) Fulham - 4 - £52.4m - Sessegnon (free), Smith Rowe (£27m), Cuenca (£5.4m), Berge (£20m) Ipswich - 9 - £72.75m - Hutchinson (£18m), Johnson (free), Greaves (£15m), Delap (£15m), Muric (£15m), Townsend (£750k), Phillips (loan), Szmodics (£9m), Cajuste (loan) Leicester - 6 - £50.6m - Decordova-Reid (free), Golding (£4m), Okoli (£12.6m), Fatawu (£14m), Buonanotte (loan), Skipp (£20m) Liverpool - 0 - £0 - Man City - 1 - £30.8m - Savinho (£30.8m) Man Utd - 4 - £138.8m - Zirkzee (£36.5m), Toro (£52.1m), de Ligt (£38.4m), Mazraoui (£12.8m) Newcastle - 5 - £50.7m - Hall (£28m), Kelly (free), Vlachodimos (£12.7m), Ruddy (free), Osula (£10m) Nottingham Forest - 8 - £71.45m - Stamenic (£4.6m), Moreira (£1.25m), Anderson (£35m), Miguel (£3.4m), Milenkovic (£12m), Silva (£5.9m), Sosa (£9.3m), Moreno (loan) Southampton - 11 - £85m - Lallana (free), Harwood-Bellis (£20m), Taylor (free), Edwards (£3m), Wood (£3m), Sugawara (£6m), Downes (£16m), Brereton Diaz (£7m), Archer (£15m), Ugochukwu (loan), Fernandez's (£15m) Tottenham - 5 - £118.6m - Werner (loan), Bergvall (£8.6m), Gray (£30m), Solanke (£55m), Odobert (£25m) West Ham - 8 - £132.5m - Foderingham (free), Guilherme (£25.5m), Kilman (£40m), Summerville (£25m), Fullkrug (£27m), Rodriguez (free), Todibo (loan), Wan Bissaka (£15m) Wolves - 4 - £28m - Doyle (£4.3m), Gomes (£12.7m), Larsen (£2.5m loan), Lima (£8.5m) Total Signings: 107 Total Spend: £1,579,450,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, le_tiss said: Updated: Arsenal - 2 - £61m - Raya (£27m), Calafiori (£34m) Aston Villa - 8 - £150.7m - Dobbin (£9m), Archer (£15m), Maatsen (£35m), Barrenchea (£6.8m), Iling-Junior (£11.9m), Barkley (£5m), Philogene (£18m), Onana (£50m) Bournemouth - 6 - £86.95m - Sinisterra (£20m), Unal (£13m), Paulsen (£850k), Huijsen (£12.8m), Araujo (£8.6m), Evanilson (£31.7m) Brentford - 2 - £52.5m - Thiago (£30m), Carvalho (£22.5m) Brighton - 6 - £126.4m - Minteh (£30m), Wieffer (£25.4m), Cozier-Duberry (free), Yalcouye (£6m), Gruda (£25m), Rutter (£40m) Chelsea - 10 - £207.2m - Adarabioyo (free), Kellyman (£19m), Guiu (£5m), Dewsbury-Hall (£30m), Veiga (£12m), Wiley (£8.5m), Jorgensen (£20.7m), Anselmino (£15.6m), Neto (£51.4m), Felix (£45m) Crystal Palace - 3 - £22.7m - Riad (£10.2m), Kamada (free), Sarr (£12.5m) Everton - 5 - £40.4m - Iroegbunam (£9m), Harrison (loan), Ndiaye (£15m), Lindstrom (loan), O'Brien (£16.4m) Fulham - 4 - £52.4m - Sessegnon (free), Smith Rowe (£27m), Cuenca (£5.4m), Berge (£20m) Ipswich - 9 - £72.75m - Hutchinson (£18m), Johnson (free), Greaves (£15m), Delap (£15m), Muric (£15m), Townsend (£750k), Phillips (loan), Szmodics (£9m), Cajuste (loan) Leicester - 6 - £50.6m - Decordova-Reid (free), Golding (£4m), Okoli (£12.6m), Fatawu (£14m), Buonanotte (loan), Skipp (£20m) Liverpool - 0 - £0 - Man City - 1 - £30.8m - Savinho (£30.8m) Man Utd - 4 - £138.8m - Zirkzee (£36.5m), Toro (£52.1m), de Ligt (£38.4m), Mazraoui (£12.8m) Newcastle - 5 - £50.7m - Hall (£28m), Kelly (free), Vlachodimos (£12.7m), Ruddy (free), Osula (£10m) Nottingham Forest - 8 - £71.45m - Stamenic (£4.6m), Moreira (£1.25m), Anderson (£35m), Miguel (£3.4m), Milenkovic (£12m), Silva (£5.9m), Sosa (£9.3m), Moreno (loan) Southampton - 11 - £85m - Lallana (free), Harwood-Bellis (£20m), Taylor (free), Edwards (£3m), Wood (£3m), Sugawara (£6m), Downes (£16m), Brereton Diaz (£7m), Archer (£15m), Ugochukwu (loan), Fernandez's (£15m) Tottenham - 5 - £118.6m - Werner (loan), Bergvall (£8.6m), Gray (£30m), Solanke (£55m), Odobert (£25m) West Ham - 8 - £132.5m - Foderingham (free), Guilherme (£25.5m), Kilman (£40m), Summerville (£25m), Fullkrug (£27m), Rodriguez (free), Todibo (loan), Wan Bissaka (£15m) Wolves - 4 - £28m - Doyle (£4.3m), Gomes (£12.7m), Larsen (£2.5m loan), Lima (£8.5m) Total Signings: 107 Total Spend: £1,579,450,000 Flynn Downes was £18m (sorry) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordFanWhoComesInPeace Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 On 20/08/2024 at 09:44, Saintsarmy said: Been told Shea Charles off to Oxford on loan for the season Hi, Oxford fan here who comes in peace. Anyone able to shed any light on what kind of player we might be getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OxfordFanWhoComesInPeace said: Hi, Oxford fan here who comes in peace. Anyone able to shed any light on what kind of player we might be getting? I thought you were an oxford fan who came with aggression but your username put me at ease... Charles is a pretty decent player I reckon. Was not worth anything like the money we paid for him last year and is still very young but has another year of experience. He was never going to displace Downes in our team who was probably the best in the championship in that position but I thought he held his own and was a reasonable alternative when required. Good passer of the ball, composed and can carry the ball, can tackle and will be a really decent signing for a newly promoted team. Quite a classy loan signing for a newly promoted club I would have thought. Edited August 22 by hypochondriac 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 11 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Not sure where to put this but found it in a box this evening. How do you think this team compares to today's one? We had a fair bit of shite back then! That team would struggle to reach ten points. The Premier League is many times stronger than was the case back then, and that was one of our weaker line ups of that era in my view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shirleysfc Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I thought you were an oxford fan who came with aggression but your username put me at ease... Charles is a pretty decent player I reckon. Was not worth anything like the money we paid for him last year and is still very young but has another year of experience. He was never going to displace Downes in our team who was probably the best in the championship in that position but I thought he held his own and was a reasonable alternative when required. Good passer of the ball, composed and can carry the ball, can tackle and will be a really decent signing for a newly promoted team. Quite a classy loan signing for a newly promoted club I would have thought. I agree. There's a decent player in Charles and a loan with Oxford would do him and Oxford good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 10 minutes ago, OxfordFanWhoComesInPeace said: Hi, Oxford fan here who comes in peace. Anyone able to shed any light on what kind of player we might be getting? Wow if you get Shea on loan it’s a masterstroke. He will improve your first eleven no question. Prediction now- he will play every match and at end of season you will vote him Player of the Season. And then he will return to Saints or be sold to another EPL team for an inflated fee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, gio1saints said: Wow if you get Shea on loan it’s a masterstroke. He will improve your first eleven no question. Prediction now- he will play every match and at end of season you will vote him Player of the Season. And then he will return to Saints or be sold to another EPL team for an inflated fee. He could be the Lesley replacement next season if he has a breakout year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 10 minutes ago, OxfordFanWhoComesInPeace said: Hi, Oxford fan here who comes in peace. Anyone able to shed any light on what kind of player we might be getting? Hypo summed it up pretty well. He's still pretty young and was unlucky to have Downes in front of him last season but he desperately needs regular games so hopefully gets it with you. He's a defensive mid who can also play CB if needed. Tidy but unflashy on the ball. Generally decent passer but don't expect any crossfield diagonal Hollywood balls from him. Had a f*cking awful game deputising for Downes away to Bristol City and never really got back into the team after that. Hope he has a decent season for you, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 We sold Lis to Goztepe for £30m, right? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 9 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: We sold Lis to Goztepe for £30m, right? This multiclub thing has some benefits... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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