hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I agree. The fact Hoffenheim have done this to 3 players/clubs now speaks volumes. Guess we will see. If he is signed by someone else for a similar value then we will know it was Hoffenheim playing silly buggers. If no one else takes it a punt then we can infer it's a tad more serious than we thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Arsenal looking for 6 million pound loan fee for ramsdale. Along with wages that's pretty obscene. I'd probably rather go for Johnstone if those are the choices but I can see why we are looking at players like steele in terms of value for money. They couldn’t sell due to their high asking price, I’d be surprised if anyone loans him for £6M unless it’s with option to buy. i can see him being a deadline day move when Arsenal lower their asking price to get him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said: Is it a brand new issue or congenital? Our medical team wouldn't see it if there were arrows on the x-ray. From what RM said when this came up the other day, it sounds like at some point ABK had some sort of non-urgent, heart-related standard procedure carried out, and it was not a secret. Whether it was with us or elswhere......who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: MoR and Ramsdale are just days away, yes? You got inside info? Because it’s certainly not something I’ve said you monumental bell. I know the interest is there for Ramsdale, it has been for weeks, but rightly so we aren’t going to bend over backwards and pay silly money. Player values drop the final week of the window because suddenly clubs want to balance the books. ABK won’t be here at the end of the window, probably loaned out now instead, less risk for a buying club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 6m plus wages is clearly a hefty amount for one season loan. But even at that price I'd say it's worth it, versus not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Saint86 said: They would have said he failed the medical if this was the case, not announced that they basically tried to change the terms of the deal (which is effectively what they've done 😅🤦♂️🤷♀️) and couldn't reach an agreement. Fully on Saints' side with this one. They announced a routine heart condition publicly to the press (zero need for this) to try and force our hand and reduce the value of the player and further pressure us, and then they've tried to renegotiate the terms. We've seemingly told them to Foxtrot Oscar. 3rd time they've done it this summer as well. Extremely bizarre to then try and turn what is a collapsed player sale (to a club taking the piss) as yet another opportunity to beat saints around the head. Some crazy toxic narratives out already this season - we've just been promoted, and yet anywhere you look you'll find people having a go at the club, the manager, macca etc. Sad state of affairs. I agree with most of that, shitty behaviour from them. No criticism of Saints at all. Not fair on ABK either, even if he has allegedly behaved like an arse at times. The last paragraph is a bit OTT, no fans of any club would be happy about conceding a goal like that and wasting a decent performance at a tough away game. Whether it’s the player or the manager. The transfer business has widely been recognised as sensible and good this summer which it hasn’t been since Ronald, GK is the one exception. Some of the fanbase are frustrated that they see - rightly or wrongly - Gavin prioritised as a vanity project by SR when eventually fit again which is suspected to be behind Alex’s unexpected new contract and the difficulties in moving on with a #1 keeper clearly needed (along with PSR/££). Alternatively the club use Alex but accept that he needs to put his foot through the ball to the wings, not trying pretty triangles on the edge of his own area. Because he was solid on everything else Saturday. No-one at the club can reasonably gripe about the above. Edited August 19 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 23 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Arsenal looking for 6 million pound loan fee for ramsdale. Along with wages that's pretty obscene. I'd probably rather go for Johnstone if those are the choices but I can see why we are looking at players like steele in terms of value for money. Not cheap. Sort of amount you'd expect for a guy worth £40m though I can see some people on here saying the £10m-£15m we would give up if KWP stayed would be worth it. I guess the £12m spent on Ramsdale might be seen in the same light. However, if you do both, that's a lot money spent to earn an extra £70m or so next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Chez said: Not cheap. Sort of amount you'd expect for a guy worth £40m though I can see some people on here saying the £10m-£15m we would give up if KWP stayed would be worth it. I guess the £12m spent on Ramsdale might be seen in the same light. However, if you do both, that's a lot money spent to earn an extra £70m or so next season. Particularly if we don't stay up. We could be rueing that as we may then have to spend more on another keeper next season in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 You have to take some gambles to have a hope of staying up these days, and the difference between our GK situation and Ramsdale is so drastic that it feels like a must even at those prices. The source is footyinsider for what it's worth, so probably nonsense anyway. Whether the people within the club who haven't had the same level of urgency throughout the Summer feel the same remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: You have to take some gambles to have a hope of staying up these days, and the difference between our GK situation and Ramsdale is so drastic that it feels like a must even at those prices. The source is footyinsider for what it's worth, so probably nonsense anyway. Whether the people within the club who haven't had the same level of urgency throughout the Summer feel the same remains to be seen. I'd be very surprised if the club chose to spend £12m (fee and wages) loaning Ramsdale. Just seems like a huge number. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Chez said: I'd be very surprised if the club chose to spend £12m (fee and wages) loaning Ramsdale. Just seems like a huge number. Agreed. When there's other positions that need strengthening you'd imagine that's a high percentage of our remaining budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Chez said: I'd be very surprised if the club chose to spend £12m (fee and wages) loaning Ramsdale. Just seems like a huge number. One Shea Charles for the sake of making us that much better? It is of course, and I don't think the number would be quite so high if Ramsdale is pushing for a move by the end of the window, but it's remarkably justifiable in my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 If we are looking at bringing in a new goalkeeper we cannot afford to enter into the games of brinkmanship that go on late in the window. That risks us ending up with no one. Maybe that is how the club will sell it to the fans - we tried but it fell through at the last minute. If we are genuinely looking we need to get a deal done sooner rather than later. It still leaves me feeling the club want to stick with McCarthy until Baz is fit so I suspect that is what will happen. It could prove to be a huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Chez said: yeah, I keep mentioning him on here. That's what I do. Find a player I like and repeatedly mention him on here until the Saints scouts wake the fuck up and do as I suggest - recommend we sign him. But he aint coming to us. He is too expensive, and he has a nightmare situation with two agents claiming ownership and one of those wanting a massive personal fee. That is why the Rennes deal fell through and I dare say why we won't touch him with a barge pole. Which is a shame, as he was one of the most impressive players I saw at SMS last season. Oozed talent, class and time on the ball. I did the same with Tall Paul, I said sign him up lads he is banging them in 🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 #SaintsFC and Strasbourg have reached and agreement for the sale of Sekou Mara worth €12m. Personal terms still to be agreed — possible signing at the end of the week. Some good news that I didn't really expect, especially after ABK fell through. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: #SaintsFC and Strasbourg have reached and agreement for the sale of Sekou Mara worth €12m. Personal terms still to be agreed — possible signing at the end of the week. Some good news that I didn't really expect, especially after ABK fell through. Unless their medical time detect that he's got piles on Thursday evening... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, saintant said: If we are looking at bringing in a new goalkeeper we cannot afford to enter into the games of brinkmanship that go on late in the window. That risks us ending up with no one. Maybe that is how the club will sell it to the fans - we tried but it fell through at the last minute. If we are genuinely looking we need to get a deal done sooner rather than later. It still leaves me feeling the club want to stick with McCarthy until Baz is fit so I suspect that is what will happen. It could prove to be a huge mistake. If anyone at the club thinks that having the keeper who was third choice in the Championship as the starting keeper in the Premier League is a realistic solution for the whole season then quite frankly we deserve to be relegated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Miltonaggro said: Unless their medical time detect that he's got piles on Thursday evening... Piles of dosh for doing fuck all? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said: Piles of dosh for doing fuck all? Don't be so cynical Weston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, Miltonaggro said: Don't be so cynical Weston Cynicism and reality share the same fine line sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 14 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: #SaintsFC and Strasbourg have reached and agreement for the sale of Sekou Mara worth €12m. Personal terms still to be agreed — possible signing at the end of the week. Some good news that I didn't really expect, especially after ABK fell through. Goodbye Sekou ...thank fuck! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chez said: I've missed these posts. We need to see this image at least once a week trousers. If Russ persists in trotting out the "Ross Stewart will be back in full training next week" line ad-infinitum then your wish may well be granted... Edited August 19 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 With Brighton reportedly going in for O’Riley (and with the big bucks to do it), you’d have to imagine we’re out the running which is why we’ve opted for different midfield targets - Fernandez looks like our alternative and a good one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 39 minutes ago, saintant said: If we are looking at bringing in a new goalkeeper we cannot afford to enter into the games of brinkmanship that go on late in the window. That risks us ending up with no one. Maybe that is how the club will sell it to the fans - we tried but it fell through at the last minute. If we are genuinely looking we need to get a deal done sooner rather than later. It still leaves me feeling the club want to stick with McCarthy until Baz is fit so I suspect that is what will happen. It could prove to be a huge mistake. It doesn’t matter who’s in goal, as soon as he makes a fuck up he’ll get hammered. shit happens, keepers make mistakes and usually get punished. let’s not forget BBD missed not quite a sitter but not far away, as did smallbone and AA RM didn’t exactly cover himself in glory either…. end of the day I was very pleased with our general play just have a bit of patience 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 28 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Goodbye Sekou ...thank fuck! Hes 22 playing in a side that isn’t set up to play to his strengths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 11 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said: Hes 22 playing in a side that isn’t set up to play to his strengths Just out of interest, what sort of side do you think he would do better in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Just out of interest, what sort of side do you think he would do better in? One in a lower standard league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 https://x.com/Millar_Colin/status/1825609598105268604?t=eRnp_wdkbAA3mZy9X_XuoQ&s=19 The transfer market is crazy right now. Some weird ffp shenanigans are afoot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 7 minutes ago, Saint NL said: https://x.com/Millar_Colin/status/1825609598105268604?t=eRnp_wdkbAA3mZy9X_XuoQ&s=19 The transfer market is crazy right now. Some weird ffp shenanigans are afoot. Chelsea working the rules. They need the immediate profit. So they buy Felix, splitting the cost, across as long a contract as they can get away with. Madrid then use the funds they get to purchase Gallagher. As he's home grown, any sale will be pure profit for Chelsea. Madrid will defer that cost across a similarly long contract. Clubs will develop relationships to assist each other to get round the rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) Strasbourg expecting Mara to travel to begin his medical tomorrow and hoping to conclude the deal by the end of Wednesday Edited August 19 by CSA96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 36 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Just out of interest, what sort of side do you think he would do better in? Or what his strengths are… aside from growing an outrageous Afro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, saintant said: If we are looking at bringing in a new goalkeeper we cannot afford to enter into the games of brinkmanship that go on late in the window. That risks us ending up with no one. Maybe that is how the club will sell it to the fans - we tried but it fell through at the last minute. If we are genuinely looking we need to get a deal done sooner rather than later. It still leaves me feeling the club want to stick with McCarthy until Baz is fit so I suspect that is what will happen. It could prove to be a huge mistake. It’s a risk we can’t afford to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 39 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Just out of interest, what sort of side do you think he would do better in? Any side that gets the ball across early, as opposed to working the ball around the back 4/5 to eventually get a 1on1 against the full back, get to the byline then back to the keeper. hope this helps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said: Any side that gets the ball across early, as opposed to working the ball around the back 4/5 to eventually get a 1on1 against the full back, get to the byline then back to the keeper. hope this helps. Do we know any such side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, trousers said: If Russ persists in trotting out the "Ross Stewart will be back in full training next week" line ad-infinitum then your wish may well be granted... "you'll see him galavanting and skipping over the grass next week." It's always just one more week away... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 46 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Just out of interest, what sort of side do you think he would do better in? An under 12's girls team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Presumably Mara and his agent have agreed to go to a club, that better suits him. Win for us, getting the fee. But also to see how he gets on. Martin said he works very hard in training. This will be a chance for that to pay off. His all round game will have got better under Martin, even if we didn't often see the results. All good things for him to have going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 28 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Chelsea working the rules. They need the immediate profit. So they buy Felix, splitting the cost, across as long a contract as they can get away with. Madrid then use the funds they get to purchase Gallagher. As he's home grown, any sale will be pure profit for Chelsea. Madrid will defer that cost across a similarly long contract. Clubs will develop relationships to assist each other to get round the rules. In that vein and given that we seemingly have a decent relationship with them, I wonder if we could exploit that so they can offload one of their keepers to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: "you'll see him galavanting and skipping over the grass next week." So, still a bit of a gambol then. 🙂 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: "you'll see him galavanting and skipping over the grass next week." It's always just one more week away... Indeed. What I can't work out is whether managers that keep saying 'player X' is "close", when they're not, genuinely believe that fans won't see through the subterfuge, or are just so thick skinned that they don't care how daft it makes them look.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: In that vein and given that we seemingly have a decent relationship with them, I wonder if we could exploit that so they can offload one of their keepers to us? I wonder what's going on with Petrovic. Played a decent number of games last season and actually looked quite good but now he seems to be third choice. Would definitely take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just seen that it's been spotted online that the same private aircraft which flew from Lisbon to Southampton last night is now flying from Southampton to Strasbourg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) Can we buy a Jamie Vardy esque goal poacher please...? #IngsWouldDo Edited August 19 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, CSA96 said: Just seen that it's been spotted online that the same private aircraft which flew from Lisbon to Southampton last night is now flying from Southampton to Strasbourg Is it being flown by Russ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, trousers said: Can we buy a Jeremy Vardy esque goal poacher please...? #IngsWouldDo Knowing Saints, we'd go for Jamie Vardy and end up with Jeremy Vardy, the plumber from Lancaster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: So, still a bit of a gambol then. 🙂 I was thinking of doing that joke but got a bit sheepish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, SNSUN said: Knowing Saints, we'd go for Jamie Vardy and end up with Jeremy Vardy, the plumber from Lancaster. Bugger... Knew some bright spark would spot the typo before I fixed it... 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Is it being flown by Russ? Pinder Airlines, I reckon Edited August 19 by CSA96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Matty's Caddy said: Hes 22 playing in a side that isn’t set up to play to his strengths He’s going to have to wait a while to be old enough to play walking football.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Pinder Airlines, I reckon Has Russ taken her up the cockpit yet, I wonder...? Edited August 19 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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