Dellyears Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 21 minutes ago, washsaint said: As others have said, seems like a very odd signing as we have plenty of midfielders and is very unproven. I imagine Charles not being in the squad yesterday means he's off. I'd be sad to see Alcaraz go as he looked great when he came on and, unlike most of the team, offered a real attacking threat by running at players and trying killer passes. Stand by my comment yesterday that if we don't have a new GK in by the next game it will be criminal. McCarthy was never the answer. Alcaraz wants to go. Club policy has been not to keep players who want away and he is one of the players who will earn us much needed money to buy. So let's get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 16 minutes ago, HKsaint said: We might have won. If not the unnecessary goal and conceding 0-1, they wouldn’t have parked the bus and they would have tried to come out and win, which would have left us some more spaces for our attack and we would have been more likely to win as they had only 10 men. Once 0-1 and they resolved to defend for life, we didn’t have any chance. Too may ifs and mights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 10 minutes ago, Dellyears said: Alcaraz wants to go. Club policy has been not to keep players who want away and he is one of the players who will earn us much needed money to buy. So let's get on with it. Since when? When Carlos returned after a loan spell he wanted to come back and stay from what I read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Fernandes feels more like a SR signing than a RM signing. A bit like Gaston Ramirez all those years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Reported that he will go because his position is not secure. Any idea if he's better than McCarthy? A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 41 minutes ago, washsaint said: As others have said, seems like a very odd signing as we have plenty of midfielders and is very unproven. We had 3 that started yesterday, 2 players on the bench who can play in those 3, one of those is seemingly on the move, the other is 18. Plenty 3 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Fernandes feels more like a SR signing than a RM signing. Every single thing you read or see about him smacks of an ideal Martin player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Number one priority should be a new goalkeeper. Until that happens, I'm not really interested in who else is coming in. A goalkeeper the outfield players can rely on is key to our survival. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Does anyone else think we need a new ‘keeper? Only ask because it doesn’t feel like it gets the attention it deserves. 1 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwoite Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Number one priority should be a new goalkeeper. And number ten priority must be for an attacking midfielder, surely? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Number one priority should be a new goalkeeper. Until that happens, I'm not really interested in who else is coming in. A goalkeeper the outfield players can rely on is key to our survival. Definitely shared sentiment there I think mate. Most of us would be quite excited for a young prospect like Fernandes if it wasn’t for a huge GK shaped hole we need to fill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 9 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy I find it a bit silly when people talk about save ratios and saves after yesterday. McCarthy's performance yesterday was nothing to do with shot stopping. No one ? would have saved that goal yesterday. The cockup was his attempted pass/clearance which was abysmal. I'm not in any way defending AM but let's at least recognise the problem and not make things up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, revolution saint said: Does anyone else think we need a new ‘keeper? Only ask because it doesn’t feel like it gets the attention it deserves. I reckon you're on to something there....perhaps let the club know too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 14 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy I see you still talk a phenomenal amount of shite James 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 The really distressing part is, as utterly wank as McCarthy is, he’s still better than all of our other goalkeeper options. Shocking indictment of our recruitment team. Imagine if Bazunu was fit. Nightmare. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Does anyone else think we need a new ‘keeper? Only ask because it doesn’t feel like it gets the attention it deserves. Only for the last 4 years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Polegategavin243 said: Why does everyone think that we will sign a further CF when we bought Archer. People need to appreciate that was the business we did for this position. The remaining business will be a goalkeeper (on loan) and an AMC and winger (probably Fraser). This would mean only needing to spend transfer budget on the AMC. What if we sell Mara and/or Tall Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: The really distressing part is, as utterly wank as McCarthy is, he’s still better than all of our other goalkeeper options. Shocking indictment of our recruitment team. Imagine if Bazunu was fit. Nightmare. Am not a Baz fan, but if he was playing, we probably wouldn't have conceded a goal like yesterday's. If he was as good with his hands as is feet, he'd be a top keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre2 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 7 hours ago, DT said: Get. A. Flipping. Keeper. Justin Bijlow is perfectly suited for our system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 6 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Am not a Baz fan, but if he was playing, we probably wouldn't have conceded a goal like yesterday's. If he was as good with his hands as is feet, he'd be a top keeper. Agreed. It's a rarity but if Bazunu is playing we win that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polegategavin243 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 14 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: What if we sell Mara and/or Tall Paul? Doesn’t change anything IMHO. They have never been in the plans, they simply provide more transfer funds once they are sold. The more important factor, is whether Stewart can become fit. Unlike a vast majority on here I believe if he gets fit he will Be like a new signing and will do well in our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 15 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: What if we sell Mara and/or Tall Paul? My guess is that Mara is as good as gone, hence the fair play money/money for Archer. I don't think we'll get another striker either. The Portuguese kid, an attack attacking midfielder and possibly Fraser is all I think we'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 18 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: What if we sell Mara and/or Tall Paul? We have Archer, Brereton Diaz, Armstrong & Stewart. That is enough strikers or you start bloating the squad and struggle to keep them happy even though some will be dismissive of Stewart due to injuries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, Tom & Gerry said: If we sign a new goalkeeper he will hopefully cut down on the number of errors playing out from the back, but don't expect them to be eliminated altogether. There is no super keeper that makes no errors. As Downes said, it's the way we play. If Ramsdale, for instance was so good at playing out from the back he'd be in the Arsenal team. The hardest thing in the Premier league is scoring goals as we saw yesterday when the goalkeeping mistake shouldn't have been crucial. Getting that right should be our number 1 priority. The challenge we're facing to find a new keeper is that we're basing our search on Martin's job description. That greatly reduces the number of candidates, never mind available/affordable candidates. There aren't that many keepers with the skill set to meet his "playing out from the back" demands, and even fewer who might be willing to join us, knowing that those demands place lots of additional pressure on their game, and could end up with hits to their reputation. As much as I like the way we play, Martin has to temper his expectations of his keeper, and make it clear that there are moments when "clearing our lines" is more important than ball retention. Arguably, we get better, not worse, for having a Plan B because PL teams will definitely exploit our Plan A. Now we're looking at more quality candidates. But the decision may not be Martin's. It'll come down to who's available as the window starts to close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 49 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy Top bins! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 51 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy Good news that Ramsdale is just days away, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 39 minutes ago, Pwoite said: And number ten priority must be for an attacking midfielder, surely? Number 2 priority is to get to the toilet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Keeper please! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Good news that Ramsdale is just days away, right? And if we don't get him? Hopefully there won't be a knee jerk reaction. I remember Jason Steele from the Sunderland Til I Die series. Maybe a slight improvement on AMc but there again, anyone who owns a pair of gloves is probably better than AMc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengi Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 30 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: We have Archer, Brereton Diaz, Armstrong & Stewart. That is enough strikers or you start bloating the squad and struggle to keep them happy even though some will be dismissive of Stewart due to injuries. But are they clinical strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: And if we don't get him? Hopefully there won't be a knee jerk reaction. I remember Jason Steele from the Sunderland Til I Die series. Maybe a slight improvement on AMc but there again, anyone who owns a pair of gloves is probably better than AMc. Yeah it's definitely still an improvement but he's at the level of slight for sure. Ramsdale I'd be over the moon. Johnstone I'd be happy with. Steele I'd begrudgingly take at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 37 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: We have Archer, Brereton Diaz, Armstrong & Stewart. That is enough strikers or you start bloating the squad and struggle to keep them happy even though some will be dismissive of Stewart due to injuries. Then we’ll get relegated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 McCarthy has a lot of strengths. Good command of the area w incoming crosses, pretty good shot-stopping, good distribution. I feel like the occasional areas in passing out could be addressed by three things 1) given him encouragement to clear long when it's needed 2) lots of practice on the decision making for when that line has been crossed 3) agreement among defenders not to pass to him when its dangerously tight. Maybe we'll find a better keeper -- I'd be delighted if we can -- but I think a higher priority still is a lethal striker proven at premier league level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Wade Garrett said: Then we’ll get relegated. How many players per position do you want them to have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Matthew Le God said: How many players per position do you want them to have? I would argue that Armstrong and Diaz aren’t centre-forwards. Meaning we have Tall Paul, Stewart, Mara and Archer. If we get rid of Mara and Tall Paul that leaves Stewart and Archer. Stewart seems to be permanently injured that leaves Archer. I would like another centre-forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 59 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Am not a Baz fan, but if he was playing, we probably wouldn't have conceded a goal like yesterday's. If he was as good with his hands as is feet, he'd be a top keeper. But if Baz hadn't got that injury, we wouldn't haven't been playing Newcastle away - probably Preston or Oxford. Swings and roundabouts really, but the reality is that not a single one of our 4 First Team GK's are good enough and won't ever be good enough for PL football, which is an absolute mess. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said: McCarthy has a lot of strengths. Good command of the area w incoming crosses, pretty good shot-stopping, good distribution. I feel like the occasional areas in passing out could be addressed by three things 1) given him encouragement to clear long when it's needed 2) lots of practice on the decision making for when that line has been crossed 3) agreement among defenders not to pass to him when its dangerously tight. Maybe we'll find a better keeper -- I'd be delighted if we can -- but I think a higher priority still is a lethal striker proven at premier league level. McCarthy is a competent keeper. But with the ball at his feet, he’s the kid that always got picked last because he’s fucking shite. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pierre2 said: Justin Bijlow is perfectly suited for our system 26yo Dutchman. Plays for Feyenoord Transfermkt suggests €13m. Liverpool linked with him back in March. Edited August 18 by Patches O Houlihan links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: But if Baz hadn't got that injury, we wouldn't haven't been playing Newcastle away - probably Preston or Oxford. Swings and roundabouts really, but the reality is that not a single one of our 4 First Team GK's are good enough and won't ever be good enough for PL football, which is an absolute mess. I don’t know where this nonsense is coming from that we’d have definitely lost the playoffs with Bazunu. We won all three league games with him between the sticks and it’s hardly as if McC performed heroic save after save at Wembley. McCarthy was competent in a relatively small data sample of eight games at the end of last season. Nothing more, nothing less. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Lighthouse said: I don’t know where this nonsense is coming from that we’d have definitely lost the playoffs with Bazunu. We won all three league games with him between the sticks and it’s hardly as if McC performed heroic save after save at Wembley. McCarthy was competent in a relatively small data sample of eight games at the end of last season. Nothing more, nothing less. You talk complete shit when it comes to Bazunu. He’s a fucking terrible shot stopper and we’re a better side without him. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: A wheelie bin left stationary in the middle of the goal would have a better save ratio than McCarthy And yet, scarily, he’s not even the worst keeper we have! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: But if Baz hadn't got that injury, we wouldn't haven't been playing Newcastle away - probably Preston or Oxford. Swings and roundabouts really, but the reality is that not a single one of our 4 First Team GK's are good enough and won't ever be good enough for PL football, which is an absolute mess. Nothing to suggest that about Bazunu. Do you know what age goalkeepers usually mature at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I don’t know where this nonsense is coming from that we’d have definitely lost the playoffs with Bazunu. We won all three league games with him between the sticks and it’s hardly as if McC performed heroic save after save at Wembley. McCarthy was competent in a relatively small data sample of eight games at the end of last season. Nothing more, nothing less. Because he is absolute horseshit. McCarthy settled the defence down and forced us to play suicidal shite a lot less. Every single statistic points to Bazunu being a shite keeper. There really is no debating it. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, sambosa75 said: Because he is absolute horseshit. McCarthy settled the defence down and forced us to play suicidal shite a lot less. Every single statistic points to Bazunu being a shite keeper. There really is no debating it. Nobody here seems to trust either of them. Is there even a rumour of a GK coming in? Yes, even a rumour would cheer me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Dellyears said: Nobody here seems to trust either of them. Is there even a rumour of a GK coming in? Yes, even a rumour would cheer me It’ll most likely be a loan move. I’d be absolutely astounded if we honestly think McCarthy and Bazunu will suffice. Ramsdale or Johnstone would be my picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Pierre2 said: Justin Bijlow is perfectly suited for our system Male Gigalo? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 15 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I don’t know where this nonsense is coming from that we’d have definitely lost the playoffs with Bazunu. We won all three league games with him between the sticks and it’s hardly as if McC performed heroic save after save at Wembley. McCarthy was competent in a relatively small data sample of eight games at the end of last season. Nothing more, nothing less. West Brom had 5 shots on target over the 2 legs. That’s why we would have lost the playoffs with Bazunu in goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I don’t know where this nonsense is coming from that we’d have definitely lost the playoffs with Bazunu. We won all three league games with him between the sticks and it’s hardly as if McC performed heroic save after save at Wembley. McCarthy was competent in a relatively small data sample of eight games at the end of last season. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s because he’s absolutely dire. Even yesterday, sure, he probably wouldn’t have made the same mistake that Macca did, but he probably would have made a different mistake. Let in a pea roller or a something. We wouldn’t have been promoted with him in goal, although we can’t be 100% certain, I am 99%. One of the worst shot stoppers I’ve seen for us in any league 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 11 minutes ago, sambosa75 said: It’ll most likely be a loan move. I’d be absolutely astounded if we honestly think McCarthy and Bazunu will suffice. Ramsdale or Johnstone would be my picks. Yes please, but is that a realistic hope or just a fantasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: NO. SIGNIFICANT. WEAKNESSES. Basically we're signing the perfect footballer. Well done Saints and thanks for the confirmation WhoScored dotcom 👍👍👍👍👍 Site is run by Jose Fernandes, Mateus' Dad and agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 28 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Nothing to suggest that about Bazunu. Do you know what age goalkeepers usually mature at? In Baz's case, likely about 55. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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