East Kent Saint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 8 minutes ago, Badger said: Don’t think you can lay that blame with the club. Bloke was a complete twat when he was with us and before ( remember the self promotion on video), and his performance in the SF. Absolute bellend. He may have matured more recently and Wolves have the benefit of that now. Perhaps there’s a case for better research on discipline/character before signing him. But can’t blame the club for him being a tool whilst here. I seem to remember , in the black box days , that the player would be judged in all aspects before he was signed , perhaps it was forgotten in subsequent regimes !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: This should be sent to the club……nearly a quarter of a billion pounds literally wasted and that’s not to mention the salaries. It’s staggering and TBH we’re bloody lucky to be back in the PL with the way we’ve conducted ourselves. I just pray we’ve learned some lessons but I’m not convinced. It is genuinely scary the lack of sense there was in our scouting, we are absolutley lucky that we aren't facing financial oblivion on the back of all that. I guess a bit of the money was offset by the large sales of VVD etc, but a club like Southampton selling a player for £85m should set us up for a really nice sustainable PL future - but that was the sale which sent us packing and on a slow and torturous decline. What a waste of a sale which should have created a bit of a legacy. Ross Wilson is a disgrace. Edited August 15 by S-Clarke 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 minutes ago, Badger said: Don’t think you can lay that blame with the club. Bloke was a complete twat when he was with us and before ( remember the self promotion on video), and his performance in the SF. Absolute bellend. He may have matured more recently and Wolves have the benefit of that now. Perhaps there’s a case for better research on discipline/character before signing him. But can’t blame the club for him being a tool whilst here. Not really sure I was blaming the club, as you seem to have interpreted. Clearly he wasn't a waste of money, in fact it sounds like he may have been a bargain. But we weren't able to manage him, whether anything more could have been done is open to debate, but clearly he wasn't beyond help. I wasn't very impressed when he was here.and was more than a little surprised to read the Wolves thing today. There are people able to manage these mavericks, clearly we didn't have such people. I'll stand by what I said though, he wasn't a waste of money. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Why? He’s done pretty much fuck all since he signed. Let me re-phrase it for you…..I’ll be sorry to see him go, unlike shite like Mara, Sulemana and (probably) Tall Paul he did at least show something they never have. Clarified enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Why? He’s done pretty much fuck all since he signed. He gave us a bit of a hope in what was a pretty miserable PL season, the only player to have really done that. He has immediately achieved more than Sulemana, Ounachu, ABK, Edozie, Stewart etc. He doesn't quite fit with what we're trying to do now, but the fact we'll potentially make a profit on him is a sign that he has been one of our better acquisitions in a long list of duds. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Szmodics agrees a deal at Ipswich. Intrigued to see the fee, but can't really argue with their strategy of best of the Championship signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Saint Matty 76 said: Szmodics agrees a deal at Ipswich. Intrigued to see the fee, but can't really argue with their strategy of best of the Championship signings. The one which intrigues me is their loan move for Kalvin Phillips. He looked absolutley finished last season for WHU, didn't seem to be able to play football anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Not really sure I was blaming the club, as you seem to have interpreted. Clearly he wasn't a waste of money, in fact it sounds like he may have been a bargain. But we weren't able to manage him, whether anything more could have been done is open to debate, but clearly he wasn't beyond help. I wasn't very impressed when he was here.and was more than a little surprised to read the Wolves thing today. There are people able to manage these mavericks, clearly we didn't have such people. I'll stand by what I said though, he wasn't a waste of money. I think in football or in any job, sometimes places work out and sometimes they don’t. Every club has ones which don’t go their way. Lemina was a good signing. He has shown himself to be a great premier league player in short spells. We all knew if he had the mindset he could be quality. But the timing was wrong. However, that is actually an example of good scouting. Technically he’s a brilliant footballer. It’s all the others on that list that are shocking. Like… what the actual fuck were the scouts looking at? I watched 5 minutes of Guido Carrillo and it was obvious he was atrocious. Same with many of those others. Just never, ever premier league players, let alone top half which is where we were at the time. The club are just blind/stupid in certain positions. Bazunu is another example. Ludicrous, ludicrous money. Does anyone know anything about the back room recruitment team? Did they all leave with Cortese? I sincerely hope we have sacked anyone involved with most of the last few seasons’ scouting and recruited people that actually watch football Edited August 15 by Osvaldorama 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Szmodics is meh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Not really sure I was blaming the club, as you seem to have interpreted. Clearly he wasn't a waste of money, in fact it sounds like he may have been a bargain. But we weren't able to manage him, whether anything more could have been done is open to debate, but clearly he wasn't beyond help. I wasn't very impressed when he was here.and was more than a little surprised to read the Wolves thing today. There are people able to manage these mavericks, clearly we didn't have such people. I'll stand by what I said though, he wasn't a waste of money. Okay, I was focusing on your comment that we wasted his talent.I think he did that for himself. not many managers would have been able to get into his head to motivate him. Perhaps, Lawrie in his day, might have put a proverbial arm round him to bring the best out of him. But not sure such a manager exists now. For what he did for us (what was it, one outstanding game, and one screamer of a goal) I don’t think we had a good return, and the money could have been better spent. But it’s all about opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertadic21 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Believe Saints are close to a defensive midfielder, possibly a loan. Would likely mean Charles goes out on loan after. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 9 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Szmodics agrees a deal at Ipswich. Intrigued to see the fee, but can't really argue with their strategy of best of the Championship signings. The only one of their players I’d have liked us to have gone for is Greaves at CB. Not bothered by the rest of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: Believe Saints are close to a defensive midfielder, possibly a loan. Would likely mean Charles goes out on loan after. #ITKWatch @SuperSAINT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 6 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: Believe Saints are close to a defensive midfielder, possibly a loan. Would likely mean Charles goes out on loan after. Maybe that kid from the Belgium league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Second post... first was right... THEVMAN returned with his mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 15 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Szmodics agrees a deal at Ipswich. Intrigued to see the fee, but can't really argue with their strategy of best of the Championship signings. Ipswich have Szmo dic energy... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: #ITKWatch @SuperSAINT He was right about the pink kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertadic21 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, SaintsFan86 said: Maybe that kid from the Belgium league. Don’t think it’s him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: #ITKWatch @SuperSAINT We've dusted off the old hashtag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: Don’t think it’s him. Skipp? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: Don’t think it’s him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 That would be very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertadic21 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, goodymatt said: Skipp? PL based but not Skipp, all I’m privy to so far. 🧐 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, Badger said: The only one of their players I’d have liked us to have gone for is Greaves at CB. Not bothered by the rest of them. They're all lower league punts or back up players and they may or may not make the difference. Szmodics may be a decent signing but really he's nearly 29 and he only had his best season last year. Greaves was in the Champ TOTY so that's probably a decent punt but the rest? Meh. I'm happier with our business than theirs so far... but we need to finish it off by the end of the month. Not that anyone cares but If I had to say whose business I think is best so far I'd probably have to begrudgingly say West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Harry Reed probably be my guess then. Decent back-up but not sure I'll be delighted if it's one of our loan spots used up, when we still need the three starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Endo at Liverpool is a name that immediately springs to mind. Experienced, another Japanese international to add to our cohort. Available for loan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Greaves was brilliant at our place, but other than him I agree that I don’t find their business particularly enviable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: PL based but not Skipp, all I’m privy to so far. 🧐 Harrison Reed (if @LeG's info was solid). Just looked at previous links -- Tyler Morton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Lavia ? 🤣🤣 I wish ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Harry Reed probably be my guess then. Decent back-up but not sure I'll be delighted if it's one of our loan spots used up, when we still need the three starters. Forgot about the LeG links to him, that's probably the one then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 There we go! Lesley Ugochukwu from Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I love these vague, ‘I know something but I’m not going to give any details’ posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Can't claim to be an expert but he's meant to be pretty good. Chelsea obviously getting desperate to shift players now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Lighthouse said: I love these vague, ‘I know something but I’m not going to give any details’ posts. To be fair he's completely nailed it? There wasn't a single mention of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Can't claim to be an expert but he's meant to be pretty good. Chelsea obviously getting desperate to shift players now Cost Chelsea £23m. apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Can't claim to be an expert but he's meant to be pretty good. Chelsea obviously getting desperate to shift players now We'd happily take Romeo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Is he any good? Got to be honest, never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Wade Garrett said: Is he any good? Got to be honest, never heard of him. Played for the French national team at every youth level up to U23s so far. Was at the Olympic Games so guess that's why it couldn't progress sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 Any good? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Zetterer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I'd love for us to have 2 solid DMs who can protect the defence. Seems a good option IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Will have played with Sully at Rennes. Can't say I know too much about him. My father-in-law's opinion: (Chelsea ST holder) "He's a big unit, can't really say what he's like as he's another sick note from last year, when he did play looked ok on the ball and tried to get forward" He'll be best buds with Stewart and Lallana then Edited August 15 by Saint Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 32 minutes ago, supertadic21 said: Believe Saints are close to a defensive midfielder, possibly a loan. Would likely mean Charles goes out on loan after. #freemandela Oh, wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 10/08/2024 at 17:22, OttawaSaint said: Might be worth a punt, does JHC play in goal? Aren't there new rules to how many players a team can send out on loan? Think it was to stop stockpiling but it hasn't stopped Chelsea yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I don't think they're loaning him here, or we're loaning him here without an option to be a backup. Assume he'll play alongside Downes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 In-case you missed it.... #ITKWatch is BACK!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellyears Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: Cost Chelsea £23m. apparently. That just shows Premier football and Chelsea in particular live in a parallel universe. The only way we will survive is by enjoying crumbs from the rich man's table. So let's enjoy Lesley Whatshisname and he may even join us, as Flynn did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 SOMEBODY GIVE ME A U.... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Hmmm. Only two loan spots, goalkeeper and striker the priority, but a Downes alternative is/was also very much necessary this summer. Don't know too much about him, shame there isn't a buy option, but if he's a success here he may not want to go back and sit behind the thousands of other Chelsea midfielders and they'll probably sign five more next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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