Summer Transfer Window 2024

[revolution saint]

46 minutes ago, M271 said:

I always remember (just) Asa Hartford failing a medical to transfer to Leeds in the early seventies but carried on playing for West Brom then moved Man City a few years later and had playing career with other clubs for many years after. Obviously it depends what sort of heart condition with ABK they have 'apparently' found.

Yeah, Asa Hartford was the fella David Coleman called a “whole hearted player”

[Tom & Gerry]

14 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

3rd best at a pinch. But we still finished 4th in the table.

There's an argument for 2nd. I know we lost at Ipswich but we were by far the better team. 

[ErwinK1961]

8 hours ago, Saint Scott said:

One less club interested in Ramsdale potentially.

 

I didn’t think this was allowed?

[AlexLaw76]

7 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said:

There's an argument for 2nd. I know we lost at Ipswich but we were by far the better team. 

How was that when they were above us for the vast majority of the season, Along with beating us twice, scoring more goals, conceding less, losing less, drawing less and winning more.

 

Edited August 14 by AlexLaw76

[ErwinK1961]

2 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said:

There's an argument for 2nd. I know we lost at Ipswich but we were by far the better team. 

Had the misfortune to listen to Talksport the last couple of afternoons. No doubt brought on by having ex Ipswich player Darren Bent presenting, but the love for Ipswich has been nauseating. Apparently they’re going to finish 15th.

[ally_uk]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Without a couple of obvious quality starters, we will get comfortably relegated with this squad.

I agree wholeheartedly forget investing in players we need a new scouting setup.

What is going on with Ross Stewart if he is not up to it then announce it. 

What was the point of signing Lallana? 

More importantly where are goals coming from to ensure safety ? 

Squad needs serious work ASAP 

 

 

 

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

How was that when they were above us for the vast majority of the season, Along with beating us twice, scoring more goals, conceding less, losing less, drawing less and winning more.

 

Wasn't impressed with them at St Mary's when they beat us. With better game management we would have beaten them at their place. 

[Turkish]

39 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said:

On a human level I feel really badly for ABK.

But he’d moved on from us and we’d moved on from him, and now we’ve got to deal with the consequences. It’s going to be a long term shitshow on many levels.

Obviously, it screws us in the short term because it’ll put the kibosh on some signing plans, but the longer term consequences are awful. A 12-15 million asset just depreciated to near-zero with one media release, and I have no idea what that means on the FFP front. Also, by calling it a “previously undetected” condition, Hoffenheim opens the door for our insurers to reject any claim because they’ll say it was a pre-existing condition. They really screwed us with those words.

I suspect that this will end up being a protracted legal wrangle, with us having to take on our insurers and/or Hoffenheim. Doubtless we’ll want ABK back here ASAP so we can try to get some medical opinions to support our case. And we’ll need to find out if there were any “pre-existing” signs when we did our medical. This stuff can take years to resolve.

What a fricking nightmare.

Plus the other depreciating asset in Stewart for £11m or so that looks like he'll never play either. Onacacu who we cant get rid of, Larios who is never fit, Mara and Sully £32m between them who are not good enough. £60m of "talent" right there. 

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

I agree wholeheartedly forget investing in players we need a new scouting setup.

What is going on with Ross Stewart if he is not up to it then announce it. 

What was the point of signing Lallana? 

More importantly where are goals coming from to ensure safety ? 

Squad needs serious work ASAP 

 

 

 

 

Why haven't we signed a keeper and striker which everyone knows are our main positions since the start if the summer? 

[Kristian Loekkegaard]

1 hour ago, M271 said:

I always remember (just) Asa Hartford failing a medical to transfer to Leeds in the early seventies but carried on playing for West Brom then moved Man City a few years later and had playing career with other clubs for many years after. Obviously it depends what sort of heart condition with ABK they have 'apparently' found.

Most likely they found something not very alarming during ABKs medical - for instance on his ECG (ElectroCardioGraph) or they heard a heart valve sound with the stethoscope that does not sound 100 % normal - and such findings often requires for example an ultrasound examination of his heart by a cardiologist.
This ultrasound (echocardiography) examination will most likely conclude that the findings have absolutely no "hemodynamic consequences".

Happens every day that for instance a GP finds something with the stethoscope or ECT machine that he/she just can't interpret by themselves, so he/she refers the "patient" to a heart specialist, who typically finds that the heart and the heart valves / the heart rhytm etc. is fully ok. 
I am not , a priori ,  worried about ABKs health, and I'm pretty sure that his career is not threatened  
That said - yes, we have seen some horrible collapses on the football pitch. Christian Eriksen and Lutons Tom Lockyer for instance - heart arythmias  that, unfortunately, typically , are impossible to foresee.

Edited August 14 by Kristian Loekkegaard

[BARCELONASAINT]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Why haven't we signed a keeper and striker which everyone knows are our main positions since the start if the summer? 

Simple answer i believe......we are relying on the loan market towards the end of the window for a goalkeeper and we are shopping in the bargain take a punt in the dark basement for a striker because we really have very little in readies!

[verlaine1979]

If you lose twice to a team and finish below them, it's pretty hollow to claim you were better than them.

Edited August 14 by verlaine1979

[LaptopSaint]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

I mentioned him during the Euros, when he was running the show.  Cocky, jumped up, arrogant little shit!  I'd take him in a heartbeat for Saints. 

I’m sure he’d love to play for a Serbian owner. The old double headed eagle goal celebration would have him training with the U11s. 

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Plus the other depreciating asset in Stewart for £11m or so that looks like he'll never play either. Onacacu who we cant get rid of, Larios who is never fit, Mara and Sully £32m between them who are not good enough. £60m of "talent" right there. 

Honestly the scouting since 2016 has been largely dreadful. We get the odd player who does well and enables us to sell them on for a decent profit but these days it seems like we are just accepting losses left, right and centre. 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

Honestly the scouting since 2016 has been largely dreadful. We get the odd player who does well and enables us to sell them on for a decent profit but these days it seems like we are just accepting losses left, right and centre. 

We show interest in layers who are never going to sign for us and put in bids that aren't accepted. Any large bids we put in have been for appaling players. 

[Harry_SFC]

19 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

I didn’t think this was allowed?

He's staying on as a Valencia player this season and they are loaning him to Bournemouth. Liverpool are signing him permanently at the end of the season.. that's the way round it. 

[Whitey Grandad]

25 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said:

There's an argument for 2nd. I know we lost at Ipswich but we were by far the better team. 

“The table never lies”

One game doesn’t make a season.

[AlexLaw76]

23 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Plus the other depreciating asset in Stewart for £11m or so that looks like he'll never play either. Onacacu who we cant get rid of, Larios who is never fit, Mara and Sully £32m between them who are not good enough. £60m of "talent" right there. 

Greatest era in our history 

[Midfield_General]

53 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A heart condition doesn't mean he will neve play again either, it just might take a while to sort out which screws us for this window. 

Yeah it's obviously a nightmare for all concerned in the short-term, but it doesn't have to be career-ending. Kanu had heart surgery and went on to win African Player of the Year twice. 

Edited August 14 by Midfield_General

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Yeah it's obviously a nightmare for all concerned in the short-term, but it doesn't have to be career-ending. Kanu had heart surgery and went on to win African Player of the Year twice. 

Doesn't Lallana have a heart problem? 

[Miltonaggro]

23 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said:

I’m sure he’d love to play for a Serbian owner. The old double headed eagle goal celebration would have him training with the U11s. 

He’d still be the shortest player on the park!

[Dark Munster]

10 hours ago, Appy said:

Just sell him, he’s (Mara) absolutely useless, useless in the Premier League, useless in the Championship, can’t get my head round people that think “there’s a player there”.

RM in particular. Baffling.

Ditto with RM regarding Bazunu, "the best goalkeeper in the division".

Edited August 14 by Dark Munster

[Miltonaggro]

1 minute ago, Dark Munster said:

RM in particular. Baffling.

Ditto with RM regarding Bazunu, "the best goalkeeper in the division".

Not even the best keeper in Joy Division. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

39 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Had the misfortune to listen to Talksport the last couple of afternoons. No doubt brought on by having ex Ipswich player Darren Bent presenting, but the love for Ipswich has been nauseating. Apparently they’re going to finish 15th.

Strayed into 5 live, who are devoting a programme to their double promotion.

I've not been listening closely, but Aaronson (accused of not trying by tator) and Bamford at fault for Leeds conceding twice. 

Farke making 5 subs, as they nearly concede a third. Tators mentioned the continued clear out.

[Give it to Ron]

16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Greatest era in our history 

Wembley was good wasn’t it did you enjoy that?

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

So, as things stand the “1 or 2 players before the weekend” feels a little unlikely unless we’re keeping something very under the radar given Russ’s remarks about Fraser and O’Riley today?

[Hengistbury Header]

Does Parsons have any experience at all in buying and selling footballers?

[Give it to Ron]

2 minutes ago, Hengistbury Header said:

Does Parsons have any experience at all in buying and selling footballers?

Only sweepers ….he came from Dyson

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

38 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Honestly the scouting since 2016 has been largely dreadful. We get the odd player who does well and enables us to sell them on for a decent profit but these days it seems like we are just accepting losses left, right and centre. 

Eight years later there is no evidence of an ability to improve the situation.

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

16 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Strayed into 5 live, who are devoting a programme to their double promotion.

I've not been listening closely, but Aaronson (accused of not trying by tator) and Bamford at fault for Leeds conceding twice. 

Farke making 5 subs, as they nearly concede a third. Tators mentioned the continued clear out.

Bamford was a huge talent but, alas, no more.

[Whitey Grandad]

8 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Only sweepers ….he came from Dyson

True, but suck it up.

[maysie]

Wow proper meltdown territory on here tonight.

[Nolan]

4 minutes ago, maysie said:

Wow proper meltdown territory on here tonight.

Lots of preseason nerves.

Very difficult to gauge where we are until we've played Saturday's game. 

[ErwinK1961]

58 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

He's staying on as a Valencia player this season and they are loaning him to Bournemouth. Liverpool are signing him permanently at the end of the season.. that's the way round it. 

Thats not dodgy at all..

[miserableoldgit]

MIGHT still be on....

[Nordic Saint]

1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said:

MIGHT still be on....

We just have to find the right heart surgeon.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

If we're out of the race for O'Reilly then why are we not looking at Szmodics? 

He's off to a great start this season. He's played with Diaz and seemingly had a good partnership with him, from what I've read. 

I don't understand Saints at all. No striker. No creative midfielder. No goalkeeper. 

If Diaz gets injured early in the season what options do we have? 

These were top priority and they've failed with all 3. 

[SaintsFan86]

Apparently ABK to Hoffenheim Is on. 🤞

[Midfield_General]

3 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

I don't understand Saints at all. No striker. No creative midfielder. No goalkeeper. 

Until we sell someone we don't have any money. Does that help? 

[Harry_SFC]

1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Apparently ABK to Hoffenheim Is on. 🤞

Source?

[HarvSFC]

Considering Ankersen's brother runs TransferRoom, which claims:

Quote

When selling a player you want to appeal to as many potential buyers as possible, and when buying you want to be exposed to as many relevant options as you can.

TransferRoom is taking football’s transfer market into the digital age and making football transfers easy.

 

We sure do find it hard to find buyers for our players and from our signings, I don't think we're being "exposed to as many relevant options". 

[woodsaint1]

Could really do with signing another Tadic and Pelle before the end of the window. Both the type of players that we need right now. There must be good options in the Bundesliga, Eredivisie or the Portuguese League. Our scouting recently seems to be focusing on the Championship and the SPL however

[Crouchie's Lawyer]

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

I agree wholeheartedly forget investing in players we need a new scouting setup.

What is going on with Ross Stewart if he is not up to it then announce it. 

What was the point of signing Lallana? 

More importantly where are goals coming from to ensure safety ? 

Squad needs serious work ASAP 

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

 

 

This is what I think too. I know every club has their forgettable signings but we seem to get it wrong, more than we get it right. It may be because I don't follow them and therefore don't know about all their signings but Brighton seem to have what appears to be quite a decent record at unearthing a few gems which they turn over for massive profits only to replace them with the next unknown gem which they sell for massive profits. Kind of like what we wanted to be a few years ago when buying replacements for our best players. Can't we go to what we perceive to be one of the better scouting teams and just offer them significantly higher wages to come to us as a new project? Surely scouts' wages aren't significant compared to player wages and transfer fees. If we forgo one low to medium transfer and bring in a better scouting network/team who will unearth better players at cheaper costs then it could pay huge dividends at a later stage. A better medical team would probably be a decent idea too so we don't end up signing crocs like Stewart!

Edited August 14 by Crouchie's Lawyer

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Could really do with signing another Tadic and Pelle before the end of the window. Both the type of players that we need right now. There must be good options in the Bundesliga, Eredivisie or the Portuguese League. Our scouting recently seems to be focusing on the Championship and the SPL however

A pelle type signing is exactly what we need. Even a Rickie Lambert! I'm amazed we are going into the season with such little creativity and attacking talent. 

[hypochondriac]

21 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Apparently ABK to Hoffenheim Is on. 🤞

Where did you see this? I've seen nothing to say it's still on. 

[Pat from Poole]

1 hour ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

So, as things stand the “1 or 2 players before the weekend” feels a little unlikely unless we’re keeping something very under the radar given Russ’s remarks about Fraser and O’Riley today?

I don’t think we will sign 1 or 2 before the end of the window, let alone before the Newcastle game.

The biscuit tin is empty.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

If we're out of the race for O'Reilly then why are we not looking at Szmodics? 

He's off to a great start this season. He's played with Diaz and seemingly had a good partnership with him, from what I've read. 

I don't understand Saints at all. No striker. No creative midfielder. No goalkeeper. 

If Diaz gets injured early in the season what options do we have? 

These were top priority and they've failed with all 3. 

I don't know how good Szmodics is, but perhaps our scouts have determined that he won't cut it in the top flight.

You do understand them. We are looking for top quality players, but have limited funds available to spend. That makes it very difficult to bring in players. We have tried to sign MOR and Carvalho...and for all we know several others, but just haven't been able to tempt the selling clubs...yet.

Our options are currently Onuachu, AA and Mara. Not ideal. 

Wasn't Downes our top priority?

We haven't failed, completely. We have signed BBD and McCarthy. Again, far from ideal, but we have signed them.

I think we will bring in three more players before the window closes. Wish we had them in right now, but that's the way it is.  

[FarehamSaintJames]

4 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

It's because there were so many people slagging him off in the replies. If you can't take it, then don't post it in the first place. 

I’m guessing you aren’t allowed to crop and paste tweets on here anymore seeing as they keep getting removed - despite most people agreeing with me on the subject. 🤪😁

Twitter is an absolute cesspit.

[Chez]

45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A pelle type signing is exactly what we need. Even a Rickie Lambert! I'm amazed we are going into the season with such little creativity and attacking talent. 

When decent championship layers are going for £25m, it does not surprise me that we have struggled to bring in that creative talent. We just don't seem to have the funds. Obviously we don't want to just sign a player unless we think they will cut it, but if we had no money I thought we might take O'Hare on a free. There is still time to strengthen.

[Osvaldorama]

Agree with all the above. Recruitment is the most important thing for a club of our size. To serve up as many duds as we have in recent times has crippled us. 
 

We need to recruit a scouting team that can consistently find us gems like they did under Cortese and the following seasons.   
 

It’s not all about big money - look at Steven Davis, Jay Rod, even Cork. Etc. All signed for cheap and had quality PL careers. So we know it can be done.