saintant Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 19 minutes ago, V.Johnathan.Wilson said: I saw that on an earlier post when I was browsing for a resource I dropped around page 160. Have not seen his name come up on twitter or google news, maybe its one of those local newspaper exclusives which means I'd have no chance of coming across it. I've mentioned this before but Brownhill struggled a lot when the premier league opposition pressed him even though he had Berge alongside him. Jacob Horsfall a Burnley fan did a good analysis on his shortcomings under Vincent Kompany's system. With a 3 man central midfield maybe he might fare better but not convinced. With our budget we are not going to get the complete attacking midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.Johnathan.Wilson Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 18 minutes ago, saintant said: No brainer - Josh Brownhill of Burnley. Would be perfect for us. I've mentioned this before but Brownhill struggled a lot when the premier league opposition pressed him even though he had Berge alongside him. Jacob Horsfall a Burnley fan did a good analysis on his shortcomings under Vincent Kompany's system. With a 3 man central midfield maybe he might not get as exposed to the press as much but at best he would only be a maybe from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Rumour has it he dislocated his shoulder when signing the form. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 3 hours ago, Mr Brightside said: Interest in Mara (apologies if posted already)… https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2024/lens-and-strasbourg-interested-in-southamptons-sekou-mara/ I am available to drive Mara there personally 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 10 minutes ago, saintant said: We were linked with Codi Gapko but we didn't get him. I didn't say we'd get him but we obviously want one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.Johnathan.Wilson Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, saintant said: With our budget we are not going to get the complete attacking midfielder. I did an oopsy and forgot to send the reply and then deleted it and reposted it, apologies there. I see your point about quality possibly being not attainable with our budget situation, but is he a big enough improvement on our current midfield so much so that it would be worth paying 15m? Is he better than Sem Steijn who scored 17 goals in the Eredivisie last season and may be obtainable for around 10m euros? He's another player we should be taking a serious look at. Edited August 14 by V.Johnathan.Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Think that's clear. With Carvalho gone I hope there's someone affordable we can actually buy. Hopefully but they will probably be crap or injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, saintant said: We won't be signing O'Riley because he is way above our price range. No, it now and always has hinged on us raising additional funds (see ABK). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I've reached the point of apathy to be honest. Not about the new season, I'm looking forward to seeing what we're like on the pitch, but this transfer shit is boring and almost always plays out the same way. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/beim-medizincheck-bundesliga-wechsel-von-dfb-verteidiger-ueberraschend-geplatzt According to BILD information, the second transfer of a defender to Bundesliga club TSG Hoffenheim has fallen through within 24 hours. After Salzburg defender Oumar Solet (24), German international Armel Bella-Kotchap (22) from FC Southampton also failed the medical. According to BILD information, Bella-Kotchap is said to be suffering from a heart problem. The transfer of Solet fell through due to a serious knee injury. When asked by BILD, Hoffenheim did not want to comment on the status of negotiations with Bella-Kotchap. The transfer was supposed to have taken place on Tuesday evening for a transfer fee of 15 million euros. The transfer of another French central defender, Étienne Youté Kinkoué (22/Le Havre), to Hoffenheim did not materialize at the last moment. Edited August 14 by CSA96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, DT said: Oh crap Bella-Kotchap’s £12.8m move to Hoffenheim is at risk of collapsing, after issues arose during his medical — the deal is not 100% off at this stage, with all parties involved trying to find a solution #saintsfc @Plettigoal Failed his medical due to a heart problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 This is potentially catastrophic news for our need to strengthen. Hope ABK is OK as well of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 A heart problem that has manifested itself since he signed for us or was it there previously and we didn’t pick it up? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 30 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: No, it now and always has hinged on us raising additional funds (see ABK). Genuine question... If he is that highlighly rated, if we spend £30m on him and we go down, surely we'd easily recoup our money on him anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, CSA96 said: https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/beim-medizincheck-bundesliga-wechsel-von-dfb-verteidiger-ueberraschend-geplatzt According to BILD information, the second transfer of a defender to Bundesliga club TSG Hoffenheim has fallen through within 24 hours. After Salzburg defender Oumar Solet (24), German international Armel Bella-Kotchap (22) from FC Southampton also failed the medical. According to BILD information, Bella-Kotchap is said to be suffering from a heart problem. The transfer of Solet fell through due to a serious knee injury. When asked by BILD, Hoffenheim did not want to comment on the status of negotiations with Bella-Kotchap. The transfer was supposed to have taken place on Tuesday evening for a transfer fee of 15 million euros. The transfer of another French central defender, Étienne Youté Kinkoué (22/Le Havre), to Hoffenheim did not materialize at the last moment. Oh dear. I suggest the player, Saints and his agent are not happy this info has been leaked! Financially Catastrophic for all concerned , notwithstanding the most important thing his health. I wonder who do our medicals , as if something like is missed and add to some other iffy signings!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 3 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: A heart problem that has manifested itself since he signed for us or was it there previously and we didn’t pick it up? In defence of our much maligned medical team, wouldn't he have had a medical at PSV last year ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 8 minutes ago, CSA96 said: https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/beim-medizincheck-bundesliga-wechsel-von-dfb-verteidiger-ueberraschend-geplatzt According to BILD information, the second transfer of a defender to Bundesliga club TSG Hoffenheim has fallen through within 24 hours. After Salzburg defender Oumar Solet (24), German international Armel Bella-Kotchap (22) from FC Southampton also failed the medical. According to BILD information, Bella-Kotchap is said to be suffering from a heart problem. The transfer of Solet fell through due to a serious knee injury. When asked by BILD, Hoffenheim did not want to comment on the status of negotiations with Bella-Kotchap. The transfer was supposed to have taken place on Tuesday evening for a transfer fee of 15 million euros. The transfer of another French central defender, Étienne Youté Kinkoué (22/Le Havre), to Hoffenheim did not materialize at the last moment. Just a thought that we might like to consider recruiting the Hoffenheim medical team. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 11 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Failed his medical due to a heart problem Physical or mental? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: #FreeBrownhill We need a dopey overblown tart with no knowledge of football to start a lame media campaign! Time to get Rasmus back in the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) Wasn't this lad hailed as "the next big thing" coming out of the academy a couple of years ago...? Edited August 14 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Just now, trousers said: Wasn't this lad touted as "the next big thing" coming out of the academy a couple of years ago...? Yep, believe he was, just goes to show it’s fine margins when you see talent at such a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 https://www.teamtalk.com/southampton/southampton-at-risk-of-losing-key-midfielder-as-premier-league-duo-register-interest Wonder who’s interested in Charly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 25 minutes ago, CSA96 said: https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/beim-medizincheck-bundesliga-wechsel-von-dfb-verteidiger-ueberraschend-geplatzt According to BILD information, the second transfer of a defender to Bundesliga club TSG Hoffenheim has fallen through within 24 hours. After Salzburg defender Oumar Solet (24), German international Armel Bella-Kotchap (22) from FC Southampton also failed the medical. According to BILD information, Bella-Kotchap is said to be suffering from a heart problem. The transfer of Solet fell through due to a serious knee injury. When asked by BILD, Hoffenheim did not want to comment on the status of negotiations with Bella-Kotchap. The transfer was supposed to have taken place on Tuesday evening for a transfer fee of 15 million euros. The transfer of another French central defender, Étienne Youté Kinkoué (22/Le Havre), to Hoffenheim did not materialize at the last moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Officially not in the race right now for o'riley according to Martin. At least we have that official and can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Interesting that RM is still using 'right now' as the qualifier. Hopefully he knows something we don't but seems like Atalanta are ready to wrap it up in the next couple of days and the ABK stuff may cause us to miss out if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 7 minutes ago, trousers said: Wasn't this lad hailed as "the next big thing" coming out of the academy a couple of years ago...? A serious of major injuries one after the other really stunted his progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 https://www.facebook.com/share/v/tYuQeZ2bqZYUQKzf/ 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Right now due to not being able to offload players. Real shame that as we are his preferred move but we just can't do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 33 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Failed his medical due to a heart problem Poor kid 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Forester said: I am available to drive Mara there personally You are aware it's a two day drive with in overnight stop? Edited August 14 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 talkSPORT interviewed Russell Martin today: - 'nowhere near' bringing Ryan Fraser back as it stands - 'not in the race right now' re: making an acceptable bid to Celtic Matt O'Riley - Kyle Walker-Peters has received a new contract offer "We have to do it [the transfer market] in our own means and make sure we're sustainable. I knew that when I signed a new contract, so it's not like I'm sitting here frustrated. I'm relaxed about it because I think we will end up doing business that we're quite happy with." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Interesting that we were expecting "one or two" before the opening game but Fraser is nowhere near and currently out of the running for O'Riley. Other options close or just bollocks as per? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Officially not in the race right now for o'riley according to Martin. At least we have that official and can move on. Assuming football clubs and/or their managers are never economical with the truth, of course.... Edited August 14 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Interesting that we were expecting "one or two" before the opening game but Fraser is nowhere near and currently out of the running for O'Riley. Other options close or just bollocks as per? Sounds like the “yeah we tried and tried to find answers but it just didn’t happen for us and so we go with what we’ve got” line will be spun in the not too distant future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 7 minutes ago, CSA96 said: talkSPORT interviewed Russell Martin today: - 'nowhere near' bringing Ryan Fraser back as it stands - 'not in the race right now' re: making an acceptable bid to Celtic Matt O'Riley - Kyle Walker-Peters has received a new contract offer "We have to do it [the transfer market] in our own means and make sure we're sustainable. I knew that when I signed a new contract, so it's not like I'm sitting here frustrated. I'm relaxed about it because I think we will end up doing business that we're quite happy with." Yeah, I'd heard that about Fraser (hence why he's not mentioned in the CoT thread). As said last week I think KWP is staying for at least this season. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 If Bournemouth are loaning Mamardashvili, that is one less suitor for Ramsdale. Ajax loan rejected and Arsenal still saying they want a sale but can see a loan happening before the end of the window. Wonder if we are still in the race ‘right now, for that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 13 minutes ago, CSA96 said: - Kyle Walker-Peters has received a new contract offer Re-signing KWP on a new contract to play LWB would be a boost at this stage. Not sure it will happen though and if it did I’m not sure where that would leave Taylor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 9 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Sounds like the “yeah we tried and tried to find answers but it just didn’t happen for us and so we go with what we’ve got” line will be spun in the not too distant future. Yep, its going to be a long, hard and most likely a very grim season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 15 minutes ago, trousers said: Assuming football clubs and/or their managers are never economical with the truth, of course.... these quotes we hear year on year and so Im surprised that we are surprised lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Yep, its going to be a long, hard and most likely a very grim season It will be reading your posts Mickey lol .....only teasing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 23 minutes ago, CSA96 said: talkSPORT interviewed Russell Martin today: - 'nowhere near' bringing Ryan Fraser back as it stands - 'not in the race right now' re: making an acceptable bid to Celtic Matt O'Riley - Kyle Walker-Peters has received a new contract offer "We have to do it [the transfer market] in our own means and make sure we're sustainable. I knew that when I signed a new contract, so it's not like I'm sitting here frustrated. I'm relaxed about it because I think we will end up doing business that we're quite happy with." Any chance you have a link to listen back to the full interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 25 minutes ago, CSA96 said: "We have to do it [the transfer market] in our own means and make sure we're sustainable. I knew that when I signed a new contract, so it's not like I'm sitting here frustrated. I'm relaxed about it because I think we will end up doing business that we're quite happy with." Russ is sitting there, frustrated, thinking "it better not be like that window at Swansea, when we got nothing done." 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I’m expecting a loan starting goalie and a wide attacking squad player - also on loan. The first proviso is we keep Charlie and Shea. If either go I’d expect replacements. Second proviso is if we actually manage to sell BK and Paul - then an additional MOR type quality AMF can be bought. Probably from a euro league at a third the price of MOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 (edited) ... Edited August 14 by Master Bates Re post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 How can it be so difficult to resign Fraser?? I guess he's being a greedy ****?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Really hope ABK is all ok. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Just now, warsash saint said: How can it be so difficult to resign Fraser?? I guess he's being a greedy ****?! Or maybe Howe is purposely holding things up so he doesn't get to play against them in the opening game....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 minute ago, warsash saint said: How can it be so difficult to resign Fraser?? I guess he's being a greedy ****?! It seems like he wants a full pay-off for the final year of his deal. I don't blame him I guess? But the priority to get that done rather than being here for preseason/the opening games has pushed me from wanting him back as a squad player to not being remotely fussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 52 minutes ago, trousers said: Wasn't this lad hailed as "the next big thing" coming out of the academy a couple of years ago...? More, Cubic Zirconia Edwards. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) Hoffenheim are a load of tyre-kicking c*nts. Heart problem my arse. Edited August 14 by Wade Garrett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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