Summer Transfer Window 2024

[JRM]

22 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

I haven't followed it, but is there any chance we could get Brooks? 

Could be worth another loan if possible, lots to decide first on players actually contracted to us like Alcaraz , we didn't really miss him in the end,  he'll want a go in the prem again though 

[JRM]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Would be massively helpful to us if Leicester are given a chunky deduction,  12 points should do, they can take a relegation spot, Ipswich must be due to drop off soon they can take another one 

[SaintBobby]

Lallana over the line shortly. Adams to Wolves. 
 

Then we get down to proper business 

[Appy]

Have to be careful with our choices on loans. We’re restricted to two from other premier league clubs I think. 

[JRM]

8 minutes ago, Appy said:

Have to be careful with our choices on loans. We’re restricted to two from other premier league clubs I think. 

And often the best available deals aren't done until the last week pending other deals to go through before those players are made available for loan. 

Wilcox might do Martin a favour and send a Man Utd top prospect our way 

Edited May 28 by JRM

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 minutes ago, JRM said:

Wilcox might do Martin a favour and send a Man Utd top prospect our way 

Welcome to the Saints, Mr Maguire. Lads, I'd like you to meet Harry... 🙂

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, SaintBobby said:

Lallana over the line shortly. Adams to Wolves. 
 

Then we get down to proper business 

Lallana is ok if it’s a player-coach role first 12 months and coach after that, but if the Ings rumours have any mileage then these days that would be a downgrade from Che, great as Danny was first time around.

Hopefully we will see some proper business with pace and energy, because we will need plenty of both.

[beatlesaint]

9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Lallana is ok if it’s a player-coach role first 12 months and coach after that, but if the Ings rumours have any mileage then these days that would be a downgrade from Che, great as Danny was first time around.

Ings is a better and more natural finisher than Adams. I don’t think it will happen and it probably shouldn’t but let’s not rewrite history here. Ings is a much better and far more intelligent player than Che

[Chez]

Don't really understand the Lallana signing. If we want a youth coach, get a youth coach. There are thousands of them.

If we want a player to come on for 15 minutes, to keep the ball, then O'hare is available in a free. Much higher ceiling than Lallana.

Has Lallana done anything over the last four years at Brighton? Seems like an overpaid bit part player that they could have done just as well without to me, but maybe I am mistaken?

Our transfer policy has been shite, but not spending £100k plus a week on him was one thing we got right IMO.

[Gloucester Saint]

28 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Ings is a better and more natural finisher than Adams. I don’t think it will happen and it probably shouldn’t but let’s not rewrite history here. Ings is a much better and far more intelligent player than Che

At his peak, oh certainly, different calibre to Che altogether, Che would admit that himself. But he’s struggled at West Ham and declined after a good start at Villa. We’ve already got one striker we can’t get on the pitch, the others signed need to be reliable on at least that aspect. If taking him on a season’s loan helps persuade them to sell us Flynn to help them take wages off their FFP then I could live with that a bit more. 

Edited May 28 by Gloucester Saint

[Saint Pete]

42 minutes ago, Chez said:

Don't really understand the Lallana signing. If we want a youth coach, get a youth coach. There are thousands of them.

If we want a player to come on for 15 minutes, to keep the ball, then O'hare is available in a free. Much higher ceiling than Lallana.

Has Lallana done anything over the last four years at Brighton? Seems like an overpaid bit part player that they could have done just as well without to me, but maybe I am mistaken?

Our transfer policy has been shite, but not spending £100k plus a week on him was one thing we got right IMO.

Yep, tend to agree. I don’t see enough in his recent seasons with Brighton to think that he would be able to make a meaningful contribution on the pitch and not convinced from some of his comments on leaving Brighton that he has a huge amount of drive for the game anymore. We shouldn’t rush into this kind of move in my opinion before assessing properly who else is available.

[Saint_clark]

6 hours ago, JRM said:

Could be worth another loan if possible, lots to decide first on players actually contracted to us like Alcaraz , we didn't really miss him in the end,  he'll want a go in the prem again though 

Absolutely not. Brooks was great in a couple of games but inconsistent and that was at Championship level, but the reason to avoid signing him again was just how fragile he is. Watch his injury in the final - all he does is fall over forwards and he seriously injured his arm/shoulder. Really sad for him but I honestly don't think I'd even take him on a free.

[AlexLaw76]

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

[Give it to Ron]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

I would love someone like Doucore or Onana from them but probably out of our range. 

[Chez]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

Queue lots of lowball bids for Pickford, Branthwaite and Onana. 

I'd take James Garner.

[Dman]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

Could be a really good season to have been promoted with Leicester and Everton losing points (hopefully) and I'd fancy our chances of finishing above Ipswich. 

I think Brentford and Forest will struggle next season as well.  

[beatlesaint]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

It's probably true, I remember just before Xmas Carragher was going on about just how tough a spot they are in financially. For all his faults, and there are many, he does know whats happening re football on Merseyside.

[Whitey Grandad]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Absolutely not. Brooks was great in a couple of games but inconsistent and that was at Championship level, but the reason to avoid signing him again was just how fragile he is. Watch his injury in the final - all he does is fall over forwards and he seriously injured his arm/shoulder. Really sad for him but I honestly don't think I'd even take him on a free.

Dislocated shoulder.

[hypochondriac]

A Coventry fan I know said Ben Sheaf is their best player (defensive midfielder.) Worth a punt as Downes backup? Think he may be out of contract. 

[Saint_clark]

12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Dislocated shoulder.

Yeah I thought that's what it was, but that just reinforces my point. All he did was land face down on the ground and he managed to dislocate his shoulder. Not even sure he's as sturdy as glass. 

[Saint_clark]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

A Coventry fan I know said Ben Sheaf is their best player (defensive midfielder.) Worth a punt as Downes backup? Think he may be out of contract. 

Been a fan of him for a long time, would absolutely take him. 

[EBS1980]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

Onana and Branthwaite will be sold as they will raise the most money for them and help from their FFP perspective.
 

I think they will spend very little this summer and expect  they will go down the free transfers and loans route as cheaper options.  

[SotonianWill]

11 hours ago, Appy said:

Have to be careful with our choices on loans. We’re restricted to two from other premier league clubs I think. 

Prediction time: We’ll keep one of these slots open until deadline day for Flynn Downes. West Ham will look to hold onto him for a prolonged period. 

[Doctoroncall]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reported this morning that the mess Everton are in is still rumbling on. 
they are at risk of administration if they don’t sell players sharpish

probably media hyperbole, but something rumbling 

Moshiri extended the takeover deadline to the end of May for 777 to complete the deal. However, 777 are in financial trouble themselves. it is all a bit murky and Everton called in accountants which specialise in financial distress situations. Everton cannot continue trading a loss beyond their means and it’s getting close. 

[malcolm waldron]

8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Been a fan of him for a long time, would absolutely take him. 

When I saw him at St Marys recently I was struck by two things - how young he looked but, more importantly, how hungry he looked....

[Nolan]

9 hours ago, Chez said:

Don't really understand the Lallana signing. If we want a youth coach, get a youth coach. There are thousands of them.

If we want a player to come on for 15 minutes, to keep the ball, then O'hare is available in a free. Much higher ceiling than Lallana.

Has Lallana done anything over the last four years at Brighton? Seems like an overpaid bit part player that they could have done just as well without to me, but maybe I am mistaken?

Our transfer policy has been shite, but not spending £100k plus a week on him was one thing we got right IMO.

Given he has been coaching alongside Potter and De Zerbi, 

this is from an article last December, and If he has that demeanour he will fit in with Martins team and help where necessary on the pitch.

 

[Danbert]

10 hours ago, Chez said:

Don't really understand the Lallana signing. If we want a youth coach, get a youth coach. There are thousands of them.

If we want a player to come on for 15 minutes, to keep the ball, then O'hare is available in a free. Much higher ceiling than Lallana.

Has Lallana done anything over the last four years at Brighton? Seems like an overpaid bit part player that they could have done just as well without to me, but maybe I am mistaken?

Our transfer policy has been shite, but not spending £100k plus a week on him was one thing we got right IMO.

I think the club want ex-players who themselves have been through the Saints youth system as coaches to give the kids someone to look up to

[Badger]

17 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Moshiri extended the takeover deadline to the end of May for 777 to complete the deal. However, 777 are in financial trouble themselves. it is all a bit murky and Everton called in accountants which specialise in financial distress situations. Everton cannot continue trading a loss beyond their means and it’s getting close. 

Articles saying co-owner in Palace looking at opting out there, and buying into Everton.

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12507208/latest-football-news-and-gossip-crystal-palace-co-owner-john-textor-pushing-to-buy-everton?postid=7735317#liveblog-body

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, Danbert said:

I think the club want ex-players who themselves have been through the Saints youth system as coaches to give the kids someone to look up to

I keep reading stuff like this but I’ve no idea what it actually translates to in literal, real world terms. I can just picture Lallana turning up at Staplewood for the first day of preseason saying, “hey guys, I’m Adam. I came through the academy here 17 years ago!” Whilst everyone just stares blankly at him like, “oh right… yeah, cheers mate.”

Literally every player came through an academy somewhere, at some point in their career. There’s nothing interesting, useful or special about Lallana or any of his lived experiences.

[stevy777_x]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

I keep reading stuff like this but I’ve no idea what it actually translates to in literal, real world terms. I can just picture Lallana turning up at Staplewood for the first day of preseason saying, “hey guys, I’m Adam. I came through the academy here 17 years ago!” Whilst everyone just stares blankly at him like, “oh right… yeah, cheers mate.”

Literally every player came through an academy somewhere, at some point in their career. There’s nothing interesting, useful or special about Lallana or any of his lived experiences.

With that you can just question the club’s policy to take ex players back not only Lallana, but also question Surman’s arrival earlier this year.

[Nolan]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

I keep reading stuff like this but I’ve no idea what it actually translates to in literal, real world terms. I can just picture Lallana turning up at Staplewood for the first day of preseason saying, “hey guys, I’m Adam. I came through the academy here 17 years ago!” Whilst everyone just stares blankly at him like, “oh right… yeah, cheers mate.”

Literally every player came through an academy somewhere, at some point in their career. There’s nothing interesting, useful or special about Lallana or any of his lived experiences.

There are clues that coaching may be one of his interests.

I doubt he would look to step backwards into just playing. 


The reason why Adam Lallana has been training with England Under-21s - JOE.co.uk
 

Adam Lallana’s coaching experience shows Brighton future beyond playing career - The Athletic (nytimes.com)

 

 

 

[Midfield_General]

10 minutes ago, Danbert said:

I think the club want ex-players who themselves have been through the Saints youth system as coaches to give the kids someone to look up to

And then force transfers when they get offered more money elsewhere, despite being captain. 

What a super role model he is for 'the kids'.

[VectisSaint]

Don't recall too many people objecting when Surman joined back in January. Always think it's good having past players involved in the club, no great fan of Lallana but he is a good role model for the kids (even if most of them think of him as a Liverpool player).

[SaintLondon]

I don't care about the way he left all that much, he was young, he went about it all wrong but whatever, it was Liverpool and he won the PL and the CL so can't really blame him. What I don't like is this - https://x.com/_LiamGrace/status/1795399641225212027

"I'm a Bournemouth lad, I'm not Southampton, I'm Bournemouth through and through" 

Again, who really cares if he does a job, it's just that it'll cut through all his PR nonsense about how great it is to be 'home' 

Many times, he's shown that Southampton isn't anything to him other than an employer so let's not get dewey eyed upon his return plz. 

[Give it to Ron]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

And then force transfers when they get offered more money elsewhere, despite being captain. 

What a super role model he is for 'the kids'.

How long until off to his spiritual home at Anfield 🙂

[Master Bates]

Saints scouting Loum Tchaouna

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loum_Tchaouna

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

I don't care about the way he left all that much, he was young, he went about it all wrong but whatever, it was Liverpool and he won the PL and the CL so can't really blame him. What I don't like is this - https://x.com/_LiamGrace/status/1795399641225212027

"I'm a Bournemouth lad, I'm not Southampton, I'm Bournemouth through and through" 

Again, who really cares if he does a job, it's just that it'll cut through all his PR nonsense about how great it is to be 'home' 

Many times, he's shown that Southampton isn't anything to him other than an employer so let's not get dewey eyed upon his return plz. 

Yeah I'm afraid just as I was mellowing slightly towards him he came up with that lovely little quote which finished me. If he comes back and does a decent job Coaching or even bolstering the first team squad sometimes then fair enough but there will be no hero worship of Adam Lallana, that ship sailed long ago.

[hypochondriac]

10 hours ago, Chez said:

Don't really understand the Lallana signing. If we want a youth coach, get a youth coach. There are thousands of them.

If we want a player to come on for 15 minutes, to keep the ball, then O'hare is available in a free. Much higher ceiling than Lallana.

Has Lallana done anything over the last four years at Brighton? Seems like an overpaid bit part player that they could have done just as well without to me, but maybe I am mistaken?

Our transfer policy has been shite, but not spending £100k plus a week on him was one thing we got right IMO.

They obviously feel that they need some veterans who have been there and done it at the top level to keep standards high and help us to survive. Given that Adam has some sort of affinity with the club he seems like he would fit that role, otherwise we would probably go for a similar type of older player but maybe without that prior sfc connection which may make them less effective. Like I said I'm don't really want him but that will be the thinking from the club and I can see the logic as long as it is supplemented by lots of quality incomings so he's essentially a bit part player and mainly a coach. 

[hypochondriac]

21 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I keep reading stuff like this but I’ve no idea what it actually translates to in literal, real world terms. I can just picture Lallana turning up at Staplewood for the first day of preseason saying, “hey guys, I’m Adam. I came through the academy here 17 years ago!” Whilst everyone just stares blankly at him like, “oh right… yeah, cheers mate.”

Literally every player came through an academy somewhere, at some point in their career. There’s nothing interesting, useful or special about Lallana or any of his lived experiences.

I'd say that playing at the top level and winning things would mean you have a very valuable perspective on things. See the video clip I posted yesterday where the Brighton players were talking about how he consistently keeps the levels high of all the other players which they hadn't had to the same extent prior to his arrival. We've also got Surman who I have known personally in the past and not only is he highly intelligent he's a great person as well so if they can offer something I think it can be a good thing to have these type of people around the club. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

Best thing Adam Lallana could do to get everyone onside is basically hold his hands up and go “Yeah, I was young, and I was a dick”.

He holds his hands up all is forgiven straight away, because people see there is a learning there and consequences which he has dealt with.

[hypochondriac]

18 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

I don't care about the way he left all that much, he was young, he went about it all wrong but whatever, it was Liverpool and he won the PL and the CL so can't really blame him. What I don't like is this - https://x.com/_LiamGrace/status/1795399641225212027

"I'm a Bournemouth lad, I'm not Southampton, I'm Bournemouth through and through" 

Again, who really cares if he does a job, it's just that it'll cut through all his PR nonsense about how great it is to be 'home' 

Many times, he's shown that Southampton isn't anything to him other than an employer so let's not get dewey eyed upon his return plz. 

That's also a good point. I hope he can do a job here but we shouldn't romanticise it and I hope he doesn't go overboard about a homecoming or other such nonsense. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Best thing Adam Lallana could do to get everyone onside is basically hold his hands up and go “Yeah, I was young, and I was a dick”.

He holds his hands up all is forgiven straight away, because people see there is a learning there and consequences which he has dealt with.

Don't forget the main positive of all of this is that we can bring back the gay wave from retirement. 

[jimmer42]

First priority for me is Downes and another DM (lavia on loan? or similar)

We also need another CB experienced preferably.

I'd love to see Jack Clark and or Dan James come in

Love to see us get Whittaker from Plymouth up top as well

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

That's also a good point. I hope he can do a job here but we shouldn't romanticise it and I hope he doesn't go overboard about a homecoming or other such nonsense. 

Has anyone thought about the possibility that he could be being brought in to coach the women's team?!

[Suhari]

21 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Saints scouting Loum Tchaouna

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loum_Tchaouna

Don't fancy our chances of getting a decent song going for him.

[SNSUN]

18 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Saints scouting Loum Tchaouna

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loum_Tchaouna

Ah hail Loom Tuna.

We're in a weird situation where we should be building towards being a Premier League team but keeping one eye on making good signings that would bode is well in the Championship in a year's time should the worst happen next season. As mentioned by others, players like O'Hare on a free might be good acquisitions for the longer term either way. 

I suspect we'll renew our interest in Ban Johnson too as he's OOC and available and we've previously been interested.

[Doctoroncall]

27 minutes ago, Badger said:

Articles saying co-owner in Palace looking at opting out there, and buying into Everton.

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12507208/latest-football-news-and-gossip-crystal-palace-co-owner-john-textor-pushing-to-buy-everton?postid=7735317#liveblog-body

The trouble is he has to sell before he can buy. Although CP seem to be currently a better prospect, selling a club where Parish has influence will likely add to the process. 

Everton are probably paying out huge amounts on loans and interest so let’s see how much of their squad will need to be sold to stop costs rising. 

[Saint_clark]

57 minutes ago, malcolm waldron said:

When I saw him at St Marys recently I was struck by two things - how young he looked but, more importantly, how hungry he looked....

I mean he's 26 so not that young 😂

[FarehamSaintJames]

Some good opportunities on players out of contract this summer.

[Chewy]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

Could be a really good season to have been promoted with Leicester and Everton losing points (hopefully) and I'd fancy our chances of finishing above Ipswich. 

I think Brentford and Forest will struggle next season as well.  

Not sure Forest and Wolves are out of the FFP mess yet either. And then of course there’s Man City … unlikely as any punishment seems.