derry Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 As far as I'm concerned Adams is a chance misser not a chance taker. Secondly his runs into and across the box are almost non-existent. And if he does get on the end of something it can almost be guaranteed he'll be offside because he is careless. Just move on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 According to Mail Sport, we went back after the loan with option was rejected by Palace for Rak-Sakyi. Permanent offer now also rejected. Time to move on or do we just need to increase our offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, JRM said: There's been a few, remember someone made a Mr Men book for him, Mr Sitter This was awful Boro home last season Che! It's that white thing. The bit between! Che! Oh bloody hell. The most overrated international striker just about ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 36 minutes ago, goodymatt said: According to Mail Sport, we went back after the loan with option was rejected by Palace for Rak-Sakyi. Permanent offer now also rejected. Time to move on or do we just need to increase our offer? Move on ffs. Don't know anything about the bloke really, but for me a winger with either lightning pace or fancy footwork isn't the priority, and don't we have a couple already ? More important is a CF, some fucker to put the ball in the net when it arrives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DT said: Che! It's that white thing. The bit between! Che! Oh bloody hell. The most overrated international striker just about ever You're forgetting their other option is Lyndon Dykes... (and you're conveniently forgetting the actual most overrated international striker ever, who just captained his side to another runners up trophy) Edited July 19 by disconnect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, disconnect said: You're forgetting their other option is Lyndon Dykes... (and you're conveniently forgetting the actual most overrated international striker ever, who just captained his side to another runners up trophy) Good point well made. Kane was absolutely terrible and entirely distorted the way England played. By not actually venturing into their penalty box, it allowed all the defences we played to push up as there was nobody to mark. Woeful and a hard watch. We need a keeper and a striker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, derry said: As far as I'm concerned Adams is a chance misser not a chance taker. Secondly his runs into and across the box are almost non-existent. And if he does get on the end of something it can almost be guaranteed he'll be offside because he is careless. Just move on. Never have I seen an easier chance wasted. I gave up all hope with him after that. If he has any time to think, you can be sure he'll miss. His inability to take gilt-edged chances was a major reason we got relegated. Edited July 19 by Disco Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: According to Mail Sport, we went back after the loan with option was rejected by Palace for Rak-Sakyi. Permanent offer now also rejected. Time to move on or do we just need to increase our offer? Palace fan at work's verdict is, "I personally don't think he's anywhere near Premier League level at the moment, and we'd only loan him somewhere where he would be guaranteed to play regularly and I don't think he would at any Prem club (albeit I don't know the state of your current options on the right wing) as I don't think he's quite ready for it. " He looks like he probably needs a season in the championship before he's ready to start in the premier league so I'm not sure it's much of a loss if we move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Wellington apparently joining Juan to Goztepe for 2 years on loan. https://www.dha.com.tr/spor/southampton-transferde-juan-silva-ve-wellingtonu-goztepeye-kiralayacak-2477851 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Hopper said: Wellington apparently joining Juan to Goztepe for 2 years on loan. https://www.dha.com.tr/spor/southampton-transferde-juan-silva-ve-wellingtonu-goztepeye-kiralayacak-2477851 Multi club ownership working well for Goztepe. Neither Juan or Welington look any good so not too worried and doubt we'll ever see them play unless it's a friendly against us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Are we keeping Alcaraz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, Saintandy666 said: Are we keeping Alcaraz? Looks that way unless we get a big money offer. He's back in training and I saw a comment that he wanted to fight for a spot in the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Second most goals, but yes he was brilliant last season. I wonder if we've considered a punt on Szmodics? Spoke to a Blackburn fan who didn't think he was that great. Said he scored a lot because absolutely everything went through him and their entire team was designed to get him chances but didn't think he'd cut it in the prem. Edited July 19 by hypochondriac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Che has got a fucking nerve making us hang on while he tries to get a move elsewhere. We’re the ones doing him a favour, on account that he is fucking garbage. We should withdraw his contract offer and move on. Either that or the total goes down £10k a week every five days, a bit like The Drop, only with more crying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 34 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Spoke to a Blackburn fan who didn't think he was that great. Said he scored a lot because absolutely everything went through him and their entire team was designed to get him chances but didn't think he'd cut it in the prem. Interesting! He looked decent to my untrained eye, but then I though Piroe was going to make the difference for Leeds last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Wilson apparently has a price tag of £15 Million. and yet Danny Ings only a few months younger is valued at only £6m……..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: Multi club ownership working well for Goztepe. Neither Juan or Welington look any good so not too worried and doubt we'll ever see them play unless it's a friendly against us. Good for them. However, I suspect all the costs (and possibly wages) will go against our net spend and influence our FFP figures. Multi club ownership not having much benefit for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Good for them. However, I suspect all the costs (and possibly wages) will go against our net spend and influence our FFP figures. Multi club ownership not having much benefit for us. Aren't they both free transfers anyway? That's why it's pre-contract agreements ahead of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Aren't they both free transfers anyway? That's why it's pre-contract agreements ahead of time Welington definitely is, not sure about Juan but won't be much if anything. Will be interesting to see how it's recorded - Goztepe could be paying us a loan fee to cover any expenses and if they end up getting sold down the line then presumably that's our profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 The Armstrong stuff now lives here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: The Armstrong stuff now lives here. FFS I just followed that link and posted a proper reply there, cheers lighthouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I do hope we're not paying this plum Paul onuachu, hes clearly on strike and hasnt returned to Staplewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 hours ago, Mattio said: Never forget... didnt he handball that also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, SaintsLoyal said: I do hope we're not paying this plum Paul onuachu, hes clearly on strike and hasnt returned to Staplewood. I think RM stated he was not required to report back. All parties know the score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, Chez said: I think RM stated he was not required to report back. All parties know the score. Well then I definitely hope we aren't paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 hours ago, Chez said: Linked to Dortmund. https://bvbbuzz.com/posts/borussia-dortmund-reportedly-interested-in-colombian-winger-yaser-asprilla-01j30ytkr98g Balls. https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/watford/deal-done-arsenal-and-everton-beaten-to-ps25m-fantastic-watford-star-4709140 and now Saudi. Shame. I think he was just what we needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 19 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Well then I definitely hope we aren't paying him. if we dont pay him, he can walk on a free. right now we are hoping to get €10m for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, goodymatt said: In a system that didn’t play to his strengths and being in and out of the team, I will agree he didn’t cut it in the PL. I’m hopeful he will so better in this system, how much better remains to be seen. How is being the highest goal contributor of the top 4 English leagues ‘just cutting it’? Did he sleep with your Mrs or something? He has more than earned his chance to have another go IMO. I think you will find that that was Nigel Adkins...... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Does anyone know how many players we are allowed to loan to Goztepe at any one time? Already seems to be Matsuki and then from Jan the two Brazilians. Presume there is a max number, and also presume they would ideally want Lis back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 A couple of reports in Italian media now that Torino and Adams are moving closer to an agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, CSA96 said: A couple of reports in Italian media now that Torino and Adams are moving closer to an agreement He’s over in Italy atm as well, think we will be moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 20 minutes ago, CSA96 said: A couple of reports in Italian media now that Torino and Adams are moving closer to an agreement Good - payback for them selling us Lyanco. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Chez said: I think RM stated he was not required to report back. All parties know the score. Interesting that Alcaraz & (especially) Kotchap came back then after their loans... Perhaps they've got a chance at reintegrating themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDog07 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: A couple of reports in Italian media now that Torino and Adams are moving closer to an agreement Make it finally happen. Far from clinical. Time to end the saga and focus on life without him and his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Sugawara says that Amo Ameyew makes him feel fucking old. Cult hero already! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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goodymatt Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, CSA96 said: How are Leicester able to spend if they are over the FFP threshold? Looks like they will have beaten us to 2 players so far this summer: Bobby De Cordova-Reid and Matias Soule. They also beat us to Maresca last season. All whilst effectively cheating their way back up with the punishment loophole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, goodymatt said: How are Leicester able to spend if they are over the FFP threshold? Looks like they will have beaten us to 2 players so far this summer: Bobby De Cordova-Reid and Matias Soule. They also beat us to Maresca last season. All whilst effectively cheating their way back up with the punishment loophole. Maybe they have decided not to give a fuck anymore because they’re getting a points deduction? Or the money from Dewsbuy Hall may help? Either way, not really that bothered about them beating us to any of the above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: Maybe they have decided not to give a fuck anymore because they’re getting a points deduction? Or the money from Dewsbuy Hall may help? Either way, not really that bothered about them beating us to any of the above. Got a payout for Maresca going and taking half the population of Leicester with him as backroom staff too, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Got a payout for Maresca going and taking half the population of Leicester with him as backroom staff too, I guess Dewsbury-Hall, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Well then I definitely hope we aren't paying him. He is contracted to us. We are paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I wish we were Leicester. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 8 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: He is contracted to us. We are paying him. It's July now so the contract has expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, CB Fry said: It's July now so the contract has expired. I believe his contract lasts until the end of June 2026. (We are talking about Tall Paul, not Che Adams.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: How are Leicester able to spend if they are over the FFP threshold? Looks like they will have beaten us to 2 players so far this summer: Bobby De Cordova-Reid and Matias Soule. They also beat us to Maresca last season. All whilst effectively cheating their way back up with the punishment loophole. New financial year. Being over FFP threshold for the previous three years (which they will be punished for) doesn't stop them spending now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, SaintNewForest said: Interesting that Alcaraz & (especially) Kotchap came back then after their loans... Perhaps they've got a chance at reintegrating themselves. or that unlike Onuachu, they are no where near joining a new club, so have to return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Chez said: or that unlike Onuachu, they are no where near joining a new club, so have to return. Onuachu is due back training with us over the weekend, supposedly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 6 hours ago, saint lard said: Armstrong is shit. How people are rejoicing him signing a new contract is mental he can’t cut it in the Premier League. He is dire. just cut it in the Championship. Just. If we just got promoted and announced the signing of a player that was a massive part of getting another team promoted (including a final goal) with over 30 goal involvements in the Championship, people would be wanking into socks until they were crusty as hell. Yes he didn't do it in the Prem last time but he's also only just 27 and hitting his prime. Hes absolutely earned his chance this season. 7 hours ago, SW5 SAINT said: and yet Danny Ings only a few months younger is valued at only £6m……..! Amen. If we're going for a proven goalscorer whose previously been a crock and is over 30, I'm Ings over Wilson. Wilson has 88 Prem goals, Ings has 71 so similar but only Danny has scored over 20 in a season. Ideally neither is the answer but financially it'd be Ings over Wilson for me. But as I say, I hope neither is the answer. Back up, sure... but I doubt the wages for either would be "back up" wages. 11 hours ago, Chez said: Where does AA fit in to that equation? Left back. Oh wait, Southgate isn't our manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Availability is such an underrated attribute for a footballer and another reason why Adam Armstrong was so valuable last season. Adams another who is very good in this aspect. I'm pretty worried about the forward postions because Mara is clearly not PL level, Arma better from wide and Stewart simply can't be relied upon to be able to play. We absolutely need two additions and good ones cost. If we don't get it right it will have a huge impact on our ability to stay up in what will be a very strong PL season. We will need to finish above at least one established PL side and the three teams people generally accept might be catchable have forwards of the quality of Toney, Mbeumo, Wissa, MGW, Wood, Awonyi, CHO, Semenyo, Solanke etc - most a level above what we have and probably they will all add too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 7 hours ago, SNSUN said: Amen. If we're going for a proven goalscorer whose previously been a crock and is over 30, I'm Ings over Wilson. Wilson has 88 Prem goals, Ings has 71 so similar but only Danny has scored over 20 in a season. Ideally neither is the answer but financially it'd be Ings over Wilson for me. But as I say, I hope neither is the answer. Back up, sure... but I doubt the wages for either would be "back up" wages. Wilson scored 10 goals in all comps last season, 9 in the PL and one against Chelsea in the cup. I'd only want him on loan personally but he's got a far better recent record than Ings and that's all that matters. As for the latter's 20 goal season, that was a one-off five years ago. His second best season is 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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