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John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:01, Patches O Houlihan said:

I take your points. Just wanted to highlight that we had 3 other midfielders. 

That said I would love to see JWP return just so that the PL free kick record is achieved when he is wearing a Saints shirt

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Going by something I read on the weekend seems that’s over the last season (and the Euros) JWP’esk free kick goals from outside the box are no longer in fashion. 

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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:09, revolution saint said:

Matt Targett on a season long loan - Graeme Bailey.  If true then KWP is probably off.

Sun reporting interest "hotting up" in Jack Clarke with us and West Ham interested.  Could see this happening.  Sunderland want 25M but have a reported 25% sell on to Spurs.  Fee would need to come way down but someone suggested yesterday offering Edozie on a loan which probably works for both parties.

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also means we wont be signing Ramsdale as that'll be our same league loan quota used up

Dman

Dman

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:19, V.Johnathan.Wilson said:

Apparently both Lesley and the Fernandes guy are good at putting through balls in behind the defence, its pretty clear that our strategy involves avoiding any sort of congestion in the box based on the profile of forwards we've signed, a lot of goals like the one that Adam Armstrong got against Leeds in the playoff finals. Its basically hedging their bets that teams are not going to play a low block against a promoted side so we either get the jump on them or cause an overload on the edge of the box if the opponent's defensive line has to rush back. 

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Personally, I think its why we should keep hold of TP (unless someone wants to offer us half decent money). 

He offers us something different. If we come against a side who are going to sit deep (almost like Newcastle did after the sending off), with Suga's crossing ability from what I saw saturday, having TP in the box would be a right handful. 

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revolution saint

revolution saint

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:16, Dman said:

I genuinely couldn't think of a worse deal that this one, if it was to be true. 

Even if KWP leaves, we don't need a bang average LB. We have Taylor & Manning already, we shouldn't be eating up a loan slot on Matt Targett. 

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Yeah, does beg the question why we bothered with Taylor if we bring another LB in.  Also puts the boot in on the idea that we'll be using the loan market for a high profile starter that can't get a game at big club.  Probably bollocks though.

Patches O Houlihan

Patches O Houlihan

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:16, Dman said:

I genuinely couldn't think of a worse deal that this one, if it was to be true. 

Even if KWP leaves, we don't need a bang average LB. We have Taylor & Manning already, we shouldn't be eating up a loan slot on Matt Targett. 

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and Larios and potentially Wee Man

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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:22, Dman said:

Personally, I think its why we should keep hold of TP (unless someone wants to offer us half decent money). 

He offers us something different. If we come against a side who are going to sit deep (almost like Newcastle did after the sending off), with Suga's crossing ability from what I saw saturday, having TP in the box would be a right handful. 

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agree with that. Might be handy to come on for 15 minutes if we're chasing a goal against a packed defence. If nothing else the size of him would occupy a couple of defenders.

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V.Johnathan.Wilson

V.Johnathan.Wilson

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:22, Dman said:

Personally, I think its why we should keep hold of TP (unless someone wants to offer us half decent money). 

He offers us something different. If we come against a side who are going to sit deep (almost like Newcastle did after the sending off), with Suga's crossing ability from what I saw saturday, having TP in the box would be a right handful. 

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Could see it happening if we go a goal down against a side like Everton, Leicester under Cooper or Forest, so I tend to agree with that sentiment somewhat but I still feel teams will try to give us the burnley treatment for the most part rather than sit back completely especially as fans don't enjoy watching their team sit back. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Losing kwp at this stage and replacing him with someone bang average will be a big blow and it would then be a fair argument to say that our defence is worse than last year. 

No idea why anyone thinks we woukd get jwp back. We are literally just signing a box to box player. Not going to happen. 

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sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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Matt Targett would be a very, very strange choice. In an area of the field we have already added someone this transfer window, and besides, Matt isn't up to much.

I see our areas of need as GK, MF and and perhaps another Forward.

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sandwichsaint

sandwichsaint

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:16, Dman said:

I genuinely couldn't think of a worse deal that this one, if it was to be true. 

Even if KWP leaves, we don't need a bang average LB. We have Taylor & Manning already, we shouldn't be eating up a loan slot on Matt Targett. 

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100% this, Targett is probably ‘better’ than Taylor but just completely nullifies the Taylor signing and takes up a loan slot. We need a complete embargo on signing anything else other than putting all our resources into a GK, AM or better ST.

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:24, Wade Garrett said:

We’ve just signed Big Les for that job though.

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Oh I know, I was just saying that it's a bit harsh to judge that player (Keita) on stats like assists and killer passes when he's a defensive mid who's primary job is to put his foot in and break up attacks. 

Anyway like you say I suspect that any rumours still going around of Saints being one of the clubs interested in Keita is based on previous interest, and probably isn't actually relevant anymore now we've signed Les. 

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goodymatt

goodymatt

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Prowsey shouldn’t have left, but that £30m fee will have helped massively with the financial situation. He’s a PL quality player and I’d take him back without hesitation but not for anything like what we sold him for.

Feel with the moves we’ve made this window, the club won’t see a spot for him and I’d rather loan a decent keeper for this season than any other position.

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Hopper

Hopper

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:52, Midfield_General said:

Oh I know, I was just saying that it's a bit harsh to judge that player (Keita) on stats like assists and killer passes when he's a defensive mid who's primary job is to put his foot in and break up attacks. 

Anyway like you say I suspect that any rumours still going around of Saints being one of the clubs interested in Keita is based on previous interest, and probably isn't actually relevant anymore now we've signed Les. 

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I think this depends on the state of the finances. If there's enough to cover our primary needs (GK/AM) and some spare it wouldn't be a bad move in terms of future planning. Brining him in as an understudy to Les and Downes ahead of next year might be the thinking with him.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:52, ErwinK1961 said:

Not a chance we’re signing Targett on loan FFS. It’s a nothing article.

 

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It's that time of the transfer window where every single tweet, news article or rumour is taken as gospel, and we spend the next 24 hours (well, DT does) losing their minds for no real reason.

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disconnect

disconnect

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In a long line of strange decisions, signing another average left back would be up there, when there's about 3 or 4 other positions which need strengthening first. Taylor is good enough for us, and if we're playing a back 3 / 5, then if Larios gets back to fitness (good to see he played in the U21s!) then he'd be a good option as a pacy, technical player. Lets see, hopefully the Targett rumour is nothing.

revolution saint

revolution saint

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:08, S-Clarke said:

It's that time of the transfer window where every single tweet, news article or rumour is taken as gospel, and we spend the next 24 hours (well, DT does) losing their minds for no real reason.

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Except no one really is, people are commenting on links not the accuracy of them.

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:08, S-Clarke said:

It's that time of the transfer window where every single tweet, news article or rumour is taken as gospel, and we spend the next 24 hours (well, DT does) losing their minds for no real reason.

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It’s probably one of those aggregator Saints X accounts that have badged it up as news. Ignoring the fact that it references Brentford, Fulham and Forest as well, with no substance behind it whatsoever.

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trousers

trousers

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  On 20/08/2024 at 09:54, Dman said:

West Ham want rid of JWP....would offer us goals from free-kicks. 

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Shame we couldn't bring him on temporarily each time we get a free-kick in "JWP territory"... something we could import from Amercian Football maybe....?! :) 

In all seriousness, his free-kicks can win games or salvage points. The lame free-kicks we had in good positions vs Newcastle being a case in point.

Some might say it's a bit of a luxury having a free-kick specialist in your side when he's "pretty average" at everything else... But given our usual 'goal-chances' vs 'goals-scored' ratio, I would say he offers a side like us much more than a team with clinical finishers...

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:11, disconnect said:

In a long line of strange decisions, signing another average left back would be up there, when there's about 3 or 4 other positions which need strengthening first. Taylor is good enough for us, and if we're playing a back 3 / 5, then if Larios gets back to fitness (good to see he played in the U21s!) then he'd be a good option as a pacy, technical player. Let’s see, hopefully the Targett rumour is nothing.

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Larios off to Malaga on loan apparently.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:52, ErwinK1961 said:

Not a chance we’re signing Targett on loan FFS. It’s a nothing article.

 

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Of course you'll have a chance to play, if you re-sign Mr Meghoma. You're practically on the pitch already. Just behind KWP, Manning, Taylor, Bree, Larios, Stephens, Targett and Fraser are on their way too. Oh, and Mrs Miggins, the tea lady is left footed. 🙂

Sevvy

Sevvy

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:37, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Of course you'll have a chance to play, if you re-sign Mr Meghoma. You're practically on the pitch already. Just behind KWP, Manning, Taylor, Bree, Larios, Stephens, Targett and Fraser are on their way too. Oh, and Mrs Miggins, the tea lady is left footed. 🙂

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What's she like in goal,

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Chez

Chez

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  On 20/08/2024 at 07:23, Patches O Houlihan said:

This chart shows him being a bit of a Primeira Liga rockstar except for touches in the box, non-penalty goals and aerial duels. So for me he is probably more of a Lavia than a Bryan Robson. But I agree he is more of an 8 than 6. He would be Morgan, while Big Les plays the Big Vic role in a double pivot. But where does that leave Flynn?

mateus fernandes.jpeg

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If Downes can't get in the side, we will have recruited bloody well.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:19, trousers said:

Shame we couldn't bring him on temporarily each time we get a free-kick in "JWP territory"... something we could import from Amercian Football maybe....?! :) 

In all seriousness, his free-kicks can win games or salvage points. The lame free-kicks we had in good positions vs Newcastle being a case in point.

Some might say it's a bit of a luxury having a free-kick specialist in your side when he's "pretty average" at everything else... But given our usual 'goal-chances' vs 'goals-scored' ratio, I would say he offers a side like us much more than a team with clinical finishers...

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That's true but there hasn't been a single link to him this summer which in a summer of being linked to every single player I would say is quite telling. 

Chez

Chez

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:29, sadoldgit said:

Larios off to Malaga on loan apparently.

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That is great.

I saw his name mentioned in relation to Targett and the left back postes and as I was scrolling down the thread I was just wondering whether we might have to pay all of his wages to get someone to loan him (maybe that is happening here). If he and Charles can get 30 odd starts this season, we might see some improvement. Hope they both happen and they work out. It would be great if they emerged as genuine Prem players (I have my doubts) and that gamble on youth paid off (to some degree).  

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Chez

Chez

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:35, sfc4prem said:

Matt Targett would be a very, very strange choice.

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Interesting link.

I thought many liked Targett (especially since he left) on here and his move to Newcastle showed that he was a good player.  Not a fan myself.

Badger

Badger

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  On 20/08/2024 at 08:44, Saintsarmy said:

Been told Shea Charles off to Oxford on loan for the season

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Could be a good move for him. They looked like they play a similar sort of game to us playing it out from the back from what we saw at the friendly. 

Guest

Guest

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  On 20/08/2024 at 11:14, ErwinK1961 said:

It’s probably one of those aggregator Saints X accounts that have badged it up as news. Ignoring the fact that it references Brentford, Fulham and Forest as well, with no substance behind it whatsoever.

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Theres about five of them, they’re all as shit as the last, regurgitating the same stories from each other.

Then again Alex Crooks has made a career of it so who am I to judge

Badger

Badger

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  On 20/08/2024 at 12:14, Chez said:

Interesting link.

I thought many liked Targett (especially since he left) on here and his move to Newcastle showed that he was a good player.  Not a fan myself.

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None of which would make him the signing that we currently need though.

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:56, Hopper said:

I think this depends on the state of the finances. If there's enough to cover our primary needs (GK/AM) and some spare it wouldn't be a bad move in terms of future planning. Brining him in as an understudy to Les and Downes ahead of next year might be the thinking with him.

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True. Especially if the current natural understudy, Charles, is off on loan as it sounds like he might be. Could make sense. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 20/08/2024 at 12:24, Badger said:

None of which would make him the signing that we currently need though.

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What about if we signed targett in addition to the other signings we needed? Someone like Fernandes looks to me like a decent signing but whether he's a good one for us or not will depend on who we get for the other positions that we need more 

Badger

Badger

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  On 20/08/2024 at 12:29, hypochondriac said:

What about if we signed targett in addition to the other signings we needed? Someone like Fernandes looks to me like a decent signing but whether he's a good one for us or not will depend on who we get for the other positions that we need more 

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Possibly, but aren’t we already well stocked on the left hand side for FB, or WB ?

I’d have been content with Targett when his name was first mooted on here, but as things stand it’s not a position to prioritise with limited money and time. 
 

(Seem to remember Targett was a good crosser of the ball. Not that we’d make use of that skill of course). 

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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Wonder if City would consider selling McAtee? Could he be an MOR alternative?

Would help us continue to morph into Sheff Utd MKII

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Saint Marky

Saint Marky

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  On 20/08/2024 at 10:25, Farmer Saint said:

Dont know what I've ever done to you, but there we go. Another one for the ignore list with that racist Hypo and his alter ego Saint Marky. 

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Mate, you need to leave it alone, you promised to leave if proven wrong, skipping photo for incoming Skipp, remember?  but you’re still here like a bad fart and  after your very public meltdown the other day, I’d stick to one of your other aliases, Kebab anyone? Oh and no more smiley faces for you, you may be having a breakdown, but you’re horrible with it. ( wonder how long this will be on here before it gets taken off lol)

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Appy

Appy

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  On 20/08/2024 at 13:08, SuperSAINT said:

I’m sure he would be.  A West Ham ITK told me a couple of weeks ago he’d likely leave on loan. (Obviously West Ham would prefer a permanent).

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The disappointment I get when I see you’ve posted and it’s not a tweet with an update. 

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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  On 20/08/2024 at 13:09, Appy said:

The disappointment I get when I see you’ve posted and it’s not a tweet with an update. 

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That’s old school, mate.  I don’t do that as much anymore.

Appreciate the message though :) 

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