ErwinK1961 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:35, HarvSFC said: Hmmm. Only two loan spots, goalkeeper and striker the priority, but a Downes alternative is/was also very much necessary this summer. Don't know too much about him, shame there isn't a buy option, but if he's a success here he may not want to go back and sit behind the thousands of other Chelsea midfielders and they'll probably sign five more next summer. Expand Only two domestic loan spots..
Chewy Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:35, HarvSFC said: Hmmm. Only two loan spots, goalkeeper and striker the priority, but a Downes alternative is/was also very much necessary this summer. Don't know too much about him, shame there isn't a buy option, but if he's a success here he may not want to go back and sit behind the thousands of other Chelsea midfielders and they'll probably sign five more next summer. Expand Only 2 loan spots from other premier league teams. Non premier league loans still available
CSA96 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:35, HarvSFC said: Hmmm. Only two loan spots, goalkeeper and striker the priority, but a Downes alternative is/was also very much necessary this summer. Don't know too much about him, shame there isn't a buy option, but if he's a success here he may not want to go back and sit behind the thousands of other Chelsea midfielders and they'll probably sign five more next summer. Expand I suppose it also suggests to Charles (who is presumably about to go out on loan) that he isn't being entirely replaced and he can work his way back in here when Ugochukwu's loan and his own loan (wherever he may end up) ends 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:29, Master Bates said: Any good? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Zetterer Expand From his Wikipedia… I’m going with not really. 1
Give it to Ron Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 (edited) On 15/08/2024 at 20:39, ErwinK1961 said: From his Wikipedia… I’m going with not really. Expand Odd in that case why they keep extending his contract if not really Edited 15 August, 2024 by Give it to Ron
Bob60 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:39, CSA96 said: I suppose it also suggests to Charles (who is presumably about to go out on loan) that he isn't being entirely replaced and he can work his way back in here when Ugochukwu's loan and his own loan (wherever he may end up) ends Expand Personally I would rather keep Charles and develop him, unless letting him go enables another transfer. 2
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:45, Give it to Ron said: Odd in that case why they keep extending his contract if not really Expand 86 first team games in 9 years. Doesn’t scream ‘immediate number one’ does it.
Saint_lambden Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:39, ErwinK1961 said: From his Wikipedia… I’m going with not really. Expand Considering Fabrizio Romano had this to say today, I'd say he's not half bad. Understand Michael Zetterer was number one replacement option for Man City in case Ederson had left the club. Zetterer now supposed to start the season with Werder Bremen although 3 other Premier League teams could still try to sign him; OM also considered him in July.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:48, Bob60 said: Personally I would rather keep Charles and develop him, unless letting him go enables another transfer. Expand Different levels of development.
Give it to Ron Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:48, ErwinK1961 said: 86 first team games in 9 years. Doesn’t scream ‘immediate number one’ does it. Expand Had 2 bad injuries though
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 19:52, Osvaldorama said: I think in football or in any job, sometimes places work out and sometimes they don’t. Every club has ones which don’t go their way. Lemina was a good signing. He has shown himself to be a great premier league player in short spells. We all knew if he had the mindset he could be quality. But the timing was wrong. However, that is actually an example of good scouting. Technically he’s a brilliant footballer. It’s all the others on that list that are shocking. Like… what the actual fuck were the scouts looking at? I watched 5 minutes of Guido Carrillo and it was obvious he was atrocious. Same with many of those others. Just never, ever premier league players, let alone top half which is where we were at the time. The club are just blind/stupid in certain positions. Bazunu is another example. Ludicrous, ludicrous money. Does anyone know anything about the back room recruitment team? Did they all leave with Cortese? I sincerely hope we have sacked anyone involved with most of the last few seasons’ scouting and recruited people that actually watch football Expand iirc Carrillo was brought it at the behest of Pellegrino, who chose his former striker over the long-scouted Raul Jimenez and pro coke trafficker Quincy Promes. I think it was reported that one person from the recruitment team even wrote a letter of resignation to protest the signing, saying that their data showed Carrillo to be dog shite. It says something that even Mark Hughes, who was a dreadful manager for us, only gave Carrillo one start and one sub appearance before recognising him for the dross that he was and freezing him out. 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:49, Saint_lambden said: Considering Fabrizio Romano had this to say today, I'd say he's not half bad. Understand Michael Zetterer was number one replacement option for Man City in case Ederson had left the club. Zetterer now supposed to start the season with Werder Bremen although 3 other Premier League teams could still try to sign him; OM also considered him in July. Expand On 15/08/2024 at 20:52, Give it to Ron said: Had 2 bad injuries though Expand Fair do’s gents, I’ve probably gone too early!
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 Lesley Ugochukwu is 1.90m tall and looks a bit of a unit. Would beef up our midfield. Looks like ABK, plays like a combination of Victor W and Morgan S (what’s not to like) but seems to have missed most of the past year with a hamstring injury and he has a girl’s name - but I’ll leave you to tell him that.
saintant Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 18:53, VectisSaint said: The new captain of Wolves. Not so much we wasted money on him, but we wasted his talent. Expand No, he wasted his talent by deciding he wasn't going to bother to play for us. 2
Harry_SFC Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:52, Give it to Ron said: Had 2 bad injuries though Expand He's perfect for us then. He'll pass a medical here with a broken hand. 1
Lighthouse Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:58, saintant said: No, he wasted his talent by deciding he wasn't going to bother to play for us. Expand Funny how people mis-remember players like that. If Wolves have a properly tough season this year, Lemina will be the first player to down tools and go missing. The Primark Pogba. 4 2
Midfield_General Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:52, Give it to Ron said: Had 2 bad injuries though Expand Oh terrific
saintant Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:10, supertadic21 said: PL based but not Skipp, all I’m privy to so far. 🧐 Expand Lavia?
SaintsFan86 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:07, saintant said: Lavia? Expand It's lesley
Mr Brightside Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 20:09, Farmer Saint said: Expand Jeez you’re good! Right. She’s a northern lass called Lesley, saying to her mate, whose turn it is next, “you go, chuck”, whilst making a “w” sign with her arms and a “u” with the rope. Took me a while, but I got there (stupidly thought you meant Oliver Skipp for a while 🤦♂️). 1 15
gio1saints Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 If the Incoming player is a loan DMF then the outgoing loan or sale is our Back up DMF - Shea. The Only definitive “ I love Shea” comment I’ve heard is from Brendan Rodgers at Celtic. And Shea has been mentioned as part of a combo deal package for MOR. So, maybe there’s hope.
Maggie May Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 Why we gotta sing this song so loud? Ugochukwu, Ugochukwu! ! 1 3
sfc4prem Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:20, Maggie May said: Why we gotta sing this song so loud? Ugochukwu, Ugochukwu! ! Expand To the tune of do do do do, Saganowski? 1
UpweySaint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 (edited) Ornstein has us in for Cameron Archer - if it’s a buy or loan to buy I would be happy. Edited 15 August, 2024 by UpweySaint Typo
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 Archer on a perm, wonder if it'll be less than Sheffield United paid last year at £18m.
sfc4prem Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:26, UpweySaint said: Ornstein has us in for Cameron Archer - if it’s a buy or loan to buy I would be happy. Expand Is he any good?
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 Already dreaming of the numbers that the Arma - Archer - BBD front three put up next year in the Championship.
SNSUN Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 (edited) On 15/08/2024 at 21:28, sfc4prem said: Is he any good? Expand Had a good spell at Boro, not so much at Sheffield United. Probably a Championship level striker but young, hungry and could improve. Edited 15 August, 2024 by SNSUN
Saint Scott Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 4 goals in 30 games last season at Sheffield United. I was hoping for somebody more exciting tbh 2
Harry_SFC Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:29, Saint Matty 76 said: Already dreaming of the numbers that the Arma - Archer - BBD front three put up next year in the Championship. Expand We literally are the next Sheffield United. 1 1
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:34, Saint Scott said: 4 goals in 30 games last season at Sheffield United. I was hoping for somebody more exciting tbh Expand The Brummie Shane Long.
Badger Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:28, sfc4prem said: Is he any good? Expand I thought the consensus on here earlier in the week was that after his time with Sheffield Utd, he was, well in a nutshell, shit. 1 1
UpweySaint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:30, SNSUN said: Had a good spell at Boro, not so much at Sheffield United. Probably a Championship level striker but young, hungry and could improve. Expand This is probably a fair summary. He has done fairly well for the England u21s which hints at potential. From what I’ve seen he is a decent finisher with a bit of pace. Not exactly a hulking centre forward but can hold off a defender. On 15/08/2024 at 21:30, SNSUN said:
Badger Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:30, SNSUN said: Had a good spell at Boro, not so much at Sheffield United. Probably a Championship level striker but young, hungry and could improve. Expand Here we go again. We need a player for now, not in two or three years. We’ve got plenty of them. Seems a player we might end up struggling to get shot if in twelve months time. Certainly hope the fee isn’t c £18m. 1
Harry_SFC Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:36, Saint Scott said: Thank goodness for that. Deals off Expand I like how he puts "understand" he's literally just taken that from Ornstein. 1 2
Badger Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:37, UpweySaint said: This is probably a fair summary. He has done fairly well for the England u21s which hints at potential. From what I’ve seen he is a decent finisher with a bit of pace. Not exactly a hulking centre forward but can hold off a defender. Expand A hulking centre forward …. Probably more what we need.
Chez Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:40, Harry_SFC said: I like how he puts "understand" he's literally just taken that from Ornstein. Expand 'I just read on the interweb that Cameron..." Talentless. Stealing a living.
saintwbu Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:39, Badger said: Here we go again. We need a player for now, not in two or three years. We’ve got plenty of them. Seems a player we might end up struggling to get shot if in twelve months time. Certainly hope the fee isn’t c £18m. Expand We’ve tried ‘player for now’ with Tall Paul and that didn’t work. Imagine we won’t want shot of Archer in 12 months as he’ll either have been good and we stay up, or not and we go down, at which point he will be good because he’s shown it in the Championship. On a related note, a front 3 of BBD/Archer/Arma could be the greatest Championship attack of all time 😂 1
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 Wonder what system we'll be playing then? The 532 would probably see Aribo miss out in midfield for Ugochukwu, and would suggest Archer is rotation/back-up to Arma/BBD. Return to a 433 fits them both in but means he'd have to drop his best mate Stephens? 1
Viking Saint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 15:43, Turkish said: I think you're forgetting just how hard it was to close the deal for goal every other game striker Guido Carillo. Expand Probably rates as my lowest point in 49 years as a Saints fan, even more embarrassing than relegation 1
SaintNewForest Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:44, Saint Matty 76 said: Wonder what system we'll be playing then? The 532 would probably see Aribo miss out in midfield for Ugochukwu, and would suggest Archer is rotation/back-up to Arma/BBD. Return to a 433 fits them both in but means he'd have to drop his best mate Stephens? Expand Or maybe, and I realise this is probably quite an outlandish suggestion, there'll be flexibility depending on the game, personnel and opposition? 3 1 1
skintsaint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:27, sfc4prem said: Second time we've been linked with Archer. Expand I hate Archers - The Archers and Jeffrey Archer. All deceitful cowards. I've just realised that only applies to Archers and Jeffrey Archer, not The Archers which to be fair are a mixed bag. 1 2
Viking Saint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 19:45, VectisSaint said: Not really sure I was blaming the club, as you seem to have interpreted. Clearly he wasn't a waste of money, in fact it sounds like he may have been a bargain. But we weren't able to manage him, whether anything more could have been done is open to debate, but clearly he wasn't beyond help. I wasn't very impressed when he was here.and was more than a little surprised to read the Wolves thing today. There are people able to manage these mavericks, clearly we didn't have such people. I'll stand by what I said though, he wasn't a waste of money. Expand Disagree. You can polish a turd all you like, but it's still a turd
SNSUN Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:45, skintsaint said: I hate Archers - The Archers and Jeffrey Archer. All deceitful cowards. I've just realised that only applies to Archers and Jeffrey Archer, not The Archers which to be fair are a mixed bag. Expand 1
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:45, SaintNewForest said: Or maybe, and I realise this is probably quite an outlandish suggestion, there'll be flexibility depending on the game, personnel and opposition? Expand Fans in discussing their ideal best 11 shocker, cheers for that absolutely useless reply. 1
Nordic Saint Posted 15 August, 2024 Posted 15 August, 2024 On 15/08/2024 at 21:36, Badger said: I thought the consensus on here earlier in the week was that after his time with Sheffield Utd, he was, well in a nutshell, shit. Expand He could be the 4 goal a season striker we've been waiting for. 1 4
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