Dellyears Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 1 hour ago, Turkish said: one slight change. Where can I get a proper list of who has joined and who has left? Not the hopes or rumours but the reality.
hypochondriac Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 21 hours ago, ally_uk said: https://www.attackingfootball.com/southamptons-prem-survival-plan/ Interesting read 👍 Bloke makes an excellent case for buying muric from Burnley. I just don't understand why we wouldn't do something like that. Makes zero sense to me. 3
SambaMaverick Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 12 minutes ago, Dellyears said: Where can I get a proper list of who has joined and who has left? Not the hopes or rumours but the reality. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/transfers/verein/180/saison_id/2024
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said: I think people make too much of whether a player wants to be at a club. I don't want him to sign a new contract because he isn't very good. But if we signed a player who scored 25 goals this season and kept us up and then admitted he's only here because he had no other offers, would anyone actually care? His goals don't mean less. Lots of people don't want to be at their jobs but do well anyway. No don’t agree entirely - there’s only one way you can possibly predict if a ‘mature’ player will perform to expected or better levels and that’s to review historic data. In Che’s case he’s hardly set the World alight both in the Prem or indeed last year in the Championship. Thats all you need to know he’s not worth a new contract, but his obstinate behaviour in signing a new contract with Saints makes it a nailed on NO for me. 1
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Is the Nathan Wood deal still happening? 2 days ago the press were reporting that his signing was imminent in the next 48 hours but there's been nothing since.
LeG Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. 2 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 2 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Not the return of the Ox?!? 1
jimmysaint7 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 5 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Big Vic?! 1
hypochondriac Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Hope it's not ox. Hojbjerg maybe? Edited 4 July, 2024 by hypochondriac
Mr Saints Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Just now, jimmysaint7 said: Big Vic?! Prime Vic Wanyama next to Downes would be the stuff of dreams. 3
a1ex2001 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr Saints said: Prime Vic Wanyama next to Downes would be the stuff of dreams. Sadly after 3 seasons with his feet up in the MLS I suspect he is even further past he prime than he was when spurs ditched him! Another who’s bank balance did better from leaving saints than his career did! Celtic were a great feeder club for us back then got a couple of gems! Edited 4 July, 2024 by a1ex2001 2
Chewy Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Please be Elyonoussi. We’ll have less possession and need his world class off-the-ball skills. Alternatively, a cheeky loan enquiry for Lavia? 2 1
Midfield_General Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 On 22/06/2024 at 13:43, Midfield_General said: 'SFC are in advanced talks with Burnley to bring back Nathan Redmond. Redmond will replace Sulemana who is being moved on - a club in France has put in a bid for him. Club see Redmond as good value as part of the transfer profile strategy that they are employing this summer - experienced voice in the dressing room to help the younger players, still well-respected by the coaching staff and in the last year of his contract at his current club. Discussing 2 year contract. £2m fee, wages around £45-£50k per week. Talks well-advanced. Both clubs keen, just need player to agree personal terms. Hoping to have it concluded in time for player to take part in pre-season from 18th July.' https://southamptonrumours.co.uk/ Looks like this was bang on the money about Redmond being on his way back - click that link above and scroll down, they literally called out 4th July (ie today) as a key date. I for one will be pleased to have him back. Good experience, low fee and a good lad to have around the place. Welcome home, Nathan! 2 1 1
MarkSFC Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 9 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. JWP?
VectisSaint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 9 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Harrison Reed? 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Just now, VectisSaint said: Harrison Reed? Got to be, only one that makes sense in the context.
beatlesaint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 13 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Lavia?
hypochondriac Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 8 minutes ago, Mr Saints said: Prime Vic Wanyama next to Downes would be the stuff of dreams. Shane he's about 40.
Suhari Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Isn't Jack Cork a free agent? Lavia on loan? Or Reed, as others suggest. Was he playing much at Fulham?
Katalinic Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 22 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Oriol? 1
SuperSAINT Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 23 minutes ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. J W P
Mr Saints Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Shane he's about 40. He was 38 when he played for us based on the drop off after he left us
Saint Scott Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) Schneiderlin is a free agent, I hope it's not AOC. Would welcome Reed back, he fell out of favour at Fulham in the last quarter of last season. He did sign a new contract though and Palhinha is off to Bayern Edited 4 July, 2024 by Saint Scott
VectisSaint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Shane he's about 40. Just turned 33 actually, so gives Lallana a few years. Would prefer Morgan if we were going back down that route.
hypochondriac Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Just now, VectisSaint said: Just turned 33 actually, so gives Lallana a few years. Would prefer Morgan if we were going back down that route. "33". 4
hypochondriac Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 1 minute ago, Mr Saints said: He was 38 when he played for us based on the drop off after he left us Indeed.
Suhari Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: "33". Who was that 40 year old 'teenager' at one of the Italian clubs a few years back?
Saint Garrett Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Well if we're talking ex midfielders that can cut it in the prem... Downes - obvious, so not sure you'd be counting him Schneiderlin - loved him but wouldn't have thought so Hojbjerg - Spurs want rid and have for a while JWP - Never wanted to go to West Ham, and long way from home Tadic - does he count as a mid? Harry Reed - Logical choice - decent solid prem level midfielder at a good age Romeu? Redmond? Chamberlain Lavia - Loan? Stu Armstrong re-signing? Struggling for names after that tbh...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 19 minutes ago, Katalinic said: Oriol? Would make the most sense, positionally - we need another even if we get Downes, IMO.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Looks like this was bang on the money about Redmond being on his way back - click that link above and scroll down, they literally called out 4th July (ie today) as a key date. I for one will be pleased to have him back. Good experience, low fee and a good lad to have around the place. Welcome home, Nathan! Please No! Couldn't get in a struggling Burnley side last season and he was dire for us in his last two seasons. This would be a ridiculous (if true) signing. Edited 4 July, 2024 by Fitzhugh Fella 9
Saint Matty 76 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Lavia on loan or JWP are the exciting options. Reed I'd take as a depth option, Charles won't cut it. Anything else, apart from maybe Hojbjerg I'd be out on. However his wage demands would be silly for us. 2
Farmer Saint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 29 minutes ago, Suhari said: Who was that 40 year old 'teenager' at one of the Italian clubs a few years back? Obafemi Martins was one...
Saints4Prem Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 57 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Looks like this was bang on the money about Redmond being on his way back - click that link above and scroll down, they literally called out 4th July (ie today) as a key date. I for one will be pleased to have him back. Good experience, low fee and a good lad to have around the place. Welcome home, Nathan! Wasn't this made up and put on here earlier by someone waiting to see when the press would pick it up? 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 25 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Would make the most sense, positionally - we need another even if we get Downes, IMO. Wow, a Downes and Romeu midfield partnership would awesome. Redmond, not so much! 1
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) Lavia on loan isn't as far fetched as it could be. The guy hasn't played for a year really, they've just signed another CM (and are trying to sign another, go figure), so his game time will be limited. After such a long lay off he will need games to build himself up again, we'd be a pretty ideal place for that to happen you have to say. Familiar surroundings, guaranteed game time, he's known around the place etc. He seemed a well grounded kid. JWP feels a little far fetched to me due to the wages. I can't see WHU letting us have both Downes and JWP and I'm not sure we could afford that either. Edited 4 July, 2024 by S-Clarke 2
SuperSAINT Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Wow, a Downes and Romeu midfield partnership would awesome. Redmond, not so much! We used to get absolutely ripped when Downes was out in the the EFL - imagine the carnage if he ate raw chicken liver and missed games in the Prem. Edited 4 July, 2024 by SuperSAINT 1
Dellyears Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Lavia on loan isn't as far fetched as it could be. The guy hasn't played for a year really, they've just signed another CM (and are trying to sign another, go figure), so his game time will be limited. After such a long lay off he will need games to build himself up again, we'd be a pretty ideal place for that to happen you have to say. Familiar surroundings, guaranteed game time, he's known around the place etc. He seemed a well grounded kid. JWP feels a little far fetched to me due to the wages. I can't see WHU letting us have both Downes and JWP and I'm not sure we could afford that either. Lavia probably won't play for another year, we don't need another injury prone sick note specialist
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 1 hour ago, LeG said: It turns out that Adam Lallana might not be the only ex saints midfielder returning to the club. This one makes a lot of sense to me. Just an enquiry at this stage though. Talk about dropping a hand grenade in and walking away. 1 6
SambaMaverick Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Reed would make the most sense given our situation imo
OttawaSaint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 1 hour ago, a1ex2001 said: Sadly after 3 seasons with his feet up in the MLS I suspect he is even further past he prime than he was when spurs ditched him! Another who’s bank balance did better from leaving saints than his career did! Celtic were a great feeder club for us back then got a couple of gems! Vic doesn't even get into the Montreal team these days.
FarehamSaintJames Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 53 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Well if we're talking ex midfielders that can cut it in the prem... Downes - obvious, so not sure you'd be counting him Schneiderlin - loved him but wouldn't have thought so Hojbjerg - Spurs want rid and have for a while JWP - Never wanted to go to West Ham, and long way from home Tadic - does he count as a mid? Harry Reed - Logical choice - decent solid prem level midfielder at a good age Romeu? Redmond? Chamberlain Lavia - Loan? Stu Armstrong re-signing? Struggling for names after that tbh... Wouldn’t be saying yes to Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Hojbjerg, Tadic, Oxlade-Chamberlain or Reed for a whole host of reasons. Redmond I would never say no to, was a good senior pro when he was here. I don’t see us signing another ex-Saint though, we’ve filled the quota for this season in Lallana. 😂 1
Wade Garrett Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Hopefully it’s Jimmy Case or Steve Williams. 3 3
HKsaint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 I do remember Redmond blamed everyone on the pitch when he lost the ball. 2
jemanson Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 13 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Hopefully it’s Jimmy Case or Steve Williams. My first thought was Steve Williams
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 37 minutes ago, Saints4Prem said: Wasn't this made up and put on here earlier by someone waiting to see when the press would pick it up? It was - by midfield general
Saint Matty 76 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Romeu is a lovely bloke but he's also a midfielder whose biggest issue was passing the ball and ended up getting replaced by an 18 year old who'd never played professionally due to it. I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if it was him. I could definitely see it being Reed though as RM seems to only like British players. 14/14 signings so far.
AlexLaw76 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Romeu is a lovely bloke but he's also a midfielder whose biggest issue was passing the ball and ended up getting replaced by an 18 year old who'd never played professionally due to it. I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if it was him. I could definitely see it being Reed though as RM seems to only like British players. 14/14 signings so far. His issue with passing was so bad, he ended up at Barcelona 5 2
Saint Matty 76 Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: His issue with passing was so bad, he ended up at Barcelona Because he suited the slower style of football in Spain at Girona. There's no need to rewrite history. It's why he was deemed surplus here. 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 Anyone thinking Romeu could still cut it in the Premiership think again! It was a huge mistake Barca signing him and the manager admitted as much. I absolutely loved watching Romeu in the Barca shirt after having seen him in our Saints team for so many wonderful years.....however it was painfully clear time had caught up with him. The Spanish league is no where near as fast and brutal as the Premiership and Romeu has struggled in the last season. After initially being a starter he quickly found his playing time limited. Hojbjerg I would take back, he can still cut it JWP in a heart beat yes Reid, real grafter, i can see why he might be considered Redmond......please NO! 6
revolution saint Posted 4 July, 2024 Posted 4 July, 2024 2 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Because he suited the slower style of football in Spain at Girona. There's no need to rewrite history. It's why he was deemed surplus here. Not so sure he was deemed surplus - my understanding was that he wanted to go back home, Semmens refused but Romeu went to SR and they agreed (have a feeling the deals for Edozie and Larios were linked to him going to Girona). In any case, he ain't coming back now. 3
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