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Saints 5-3 Huddersfield - Match Thread


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30 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

I suspect most teams will now play like Huddersfield against us - home or away,  with exception of LCFC, LUFC and ITFC. Oh, and Liverpool. 
 

Which means we better get better at playing v this high and intense press because Huddersfield are not the best attacking team in the league and despite that they caused us a lot of problems- and scored three goals. 
 

Shea if Flynn unfit is the proper decision for that if RM wishes the team structure to remain as usual. He has defensive DNA. And it’s our defending thats been a bit hairy recently not our goalscoring. 

NB it’s been noted elsewhere that Burnley have struggled this EPL season with the intense press as they attempt to play out from the back. I think we got a glimpse of what it might be like next season if we go up yesterday… except EPL players are better - so it’s lessons that need learning fast. 
 

I agree there'll be other teams looking at that high press because it caused us difficulties, but the other thing they did well was give none of our players much time on the ball when they played that press - especially their midfield. With our pace, if other teams play that tactic, I wouldn't mind Baz popping one or two over the heads of the last man.

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5 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

I hope so, we could do with scoring five in one half against a few more sides.

Aye, it’s definitely an option against us, but it’s not like we were completely overrun in the first half, despite being a bit off the pace. We had a few moments of being a bit sloppy and got punished for them.

We’ve generally been very good at playing out through a press, and Huddersfield playing it as aggressively as they to cause us problems despite that cost them towards the end of the match, when they were more or less out on their feet and we had very good players coming on fresh.

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21 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

I hope so, we could do with scoring five in one half against a few more sides.

I’m not sure my heart could cope with giving sides a 2 nil lead at half time or letting them back into it at 2-3 with ten to go. How often do you think we can score five in a second half then? I’ve only ever seen it done once live in over fifty years following saints! 

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2 hours ago, Totton Saint said:

I think Baz has enough credit in the bank via his previous saves to be cut some slack about yesterday's non saves.

For us as fans sure, that's why i'm not really that fussed about it. 

But as I said before, I bet he's annoyed with himself, and I bet the coaches don't work on a "credit in the bank" system. They'll be looking at what he could have done differently.

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21 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Has he bollox just you can’t see a player if he bit you oh captain of the titanic, every game he has improved and drove us on.

Take your head out of your arse and watch

Thank you for your ill thought out aggressive and unwelcome vitriol. Obviously a nice person…..
Well Rothwell was largely not all that against Watford. We conceded three after he came on yesterday and as Jo Tessem said he was puffing and behind the game during the first half yesterday. After he came on the midfield disappeared. Yes he scored great goals yesterday for sure but his energy and positioning are not giving us enough midfield control which contributed to Huddersfield’s ability to exploit the gaping holes that were clearly there…

As many on here have said, if we are that wide open against the big teams there may not be a way back.

Our outstanding run has been built on conceding very few goals, if we are to continue the run we will need to work to those same principles, We will concede space when Rothwell is playing and scoring five every game might be tricky…

 

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31 minutes ago, captainchris said:

Thank you for your ill thought out aggressive and unwelcome vitriol. Obviously a nice person…..
Well Rothwell was largely not all that against Watford. We conceded three after he came on yesterday and as Jo Tessem said he was puffing and behind the game during the first half yesterday. After he came on the midfield disappeared. Yes he scored great goals yesterday for sure but his energy and positioning are not giving us enough midfield control which contributed to Huddersfield’s ability to exploit the gaping holes that were clearly there…

As many on here have said, if we are that wide open against the big teams there may not be a way back.

Our outstanding run has been built on conceding very few goals, if we are to continue the run we will need to work to those same principles, We will concede space when Rothwell is playing and scoring five every game might be tricky…

 


Id stick rothwell at 10 in front of Downes/Smallbone

 

Free him up to pull the strings

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59 minutes ago, captainchris said:

Thank you for your ill thought out aggressive and unwelcome vitriol. Obviously a nice person…..
Well Rothwell was largely not all that against Watford. We conceded three after he came on yesterday and as Jo Tessem said he was puffing and behind the game during the first half yesterday. After he came on the midfield disappeared. Yes he scored great goals yesterday for sure but his energy and positioning are not giving us enough midfield control which contributed to Huddersfield’s ability to exploit the gaping holes that were clearly there…

As many on here have said, if we are that wide open against the big teams there may not be a way back.

Our outstanding run has been built on conceding very few goals, if we are to continue the run we will need to work to those same principles, We will concede space when Rothwell is playing and scoring five every game might be tricky…

 

He played 1.25 games and you were writing him off in last game too! He has been sub for a number of games so needs to get up to speed do you understand that?

The gaping holes were in front of Manning who had no cover that’s not where Rothwell was playing was it?

Oh yes I am a nice person just take umbrage to people that slaughter players without giving them a chance in games. He scored 2 made 1 more it and was Smallbone that went into the Downes role not Rothwell leaving us open.

For other games we should play Charles there that’s his best role.

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9 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

I'm not sure why Baz is getting such a hard time, the first and second goals were symptomatic of the crap way we were playing - defenders/midfielders letting them shoot - the first was non existent marking on a runner, the second was cowardliness from KWP and Smallbone who both failed to close the guy down. The third was just a flukey deflection.

Goalkeepers will concede goals - yes Baz may have done better for the first one but the rhetoric that every goal we conceded is somehow all his fault is utter nonsense.

yes, but note the level of complaint..

1st goal allowed - loads, loads of complaints

2nd goal allowed - not one complaint

3rd goal allowed - some grumbling, but yeah, that is football sometimes

 

that 1st goal should have been saved and my guess is Bazunu and Dean Thornton would agree.

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8 hours ago, verlaine1979 said:

Just a small thing, but loved how calmly Edozie moved the ball clear of the block before hitting it. Would've been so easy to snatch at the chance. Quick thinking as well as quick feet.

Yes. Also that back heel goal he scored after the keeper mistake, the same quick thinking. I think we'll see him back to starting again soon.

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There would have been no complaints on the first goal if he had not even dived for it. If he had been a bit slower, or stood flatfooted, people would have just accepted he had no chance, he was blindsided by the defender in front and saw it late. Also a good finish. If the positions were reversed, and it was brooks scoring that, everyone would just be saying it was a quality finish, not a single person would blame the keeper.

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Good game for the neutrals as they say. In context a fantastic win with some outstanding 2nd half performances…who knew Joe R had that in him?!  Joe and Brooke’s both have a little catching up to do to learn the system, but we’re now seeing their class shine through (perhaps a little reminder of the gulf in class in the EPL). 25 unbeaten is remarkable and long may it continue, but we must expect a defeat somewhen on the horizon. Let’s hope it’s no sooner than Liverpool.

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3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

…who knew Joe R had that in him?

I immediately checked his stats, half expecting to see that he scored maybe 6-8 in his last season at Blackburn (which would explain why Bournemouth signed him), but found he scored only 3 that season (which is above par for him). He's only scored 22 goals in 297 games. 

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3 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Any idea why the 3rd goal isn't credited as an OG? Was heading towards the corner flag before it hit the defender 😅

 

3 hours ago, goodymatt said:

I thought this too!

Agree... it wasn't on target so should be a Smallbone OG....?

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4 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Any idea why the 3rd goal isn't credited as an OG? Was heading towards the corner flag before it hit the defender 😅

Anyone else think this was referenced to our third?! I’m a plank.

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On 12/02/2024 at 12:57, Chez said:

I immediately checked his stats, half expecting to see that he scored maybe 6-8 in his last season at Blackburn (which would explain why Bournemouth signed him), but found he scored only 3 that season (which is above par for him). He's only scored 22 goals in 297 games. 

Yeah, can’t help being impressed. To hit a ball with that quality you’ve got to believe you’ve got it in you and then have the inherent skill to execute the strike. Not to mention having the confidence that you’ll not get reamed by the Manager if it goes into row ZZ. Looks like Joe has found the right club/Manager to really express himself. Long May it continue!

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