goodymatt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Break from the league as we travel to Watford to see if we can keep this unbeaten run going. I’d expect to see good minutes/starts for the players on the fringes like Alcaraz, Charles, Stephens, Holgate, Rothwell. I wonder if any of our injured players might be back with a few due to return the end of this month? I think this will be a tough game, but going for a 2-1 win. We definitely don’t want a replay given the fixture schedule in February! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I think we'll lose this with rotation to be honest. We'll probably see Charles, Stephen and Rothwell play, the first two have just been poor in general and Rothwell doesn't look up to speed at all (hence needing the game time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Lumley Holgate THB Stephens Meghoma Charles Rothwell Alcaraz ???? Mara ??? Could be anyone. Do you risk Fraser or will there be an incoming winger this week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, markr27 said: Lumley Holgate THB Stephens Meghoma Charles Rothwell Alcaraz ???? Mara ??? Could be anyone. Do you risk Fraser or will there be an incoming winger this week? God I hope the rotation isn't that bad. We should still be playing KWP and Arma at least, plus one of Downes or S.Armstrong. There's another week after the game as well so it's not exactly coming thick and fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I would like to see Rothwell instead of Stu give him a rest and Roths pace was a surprise to me . Mara will play as will Shea and if Holgate is still here so will he. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, Saint_clark said: God I hope the rotation isn't that bad. We should still be playing KWP and Arma at least, plus one of Downes or S.Armstrong. There's another week after the game as well so it's not exactly coming thick and fast. Agree would expect a couple of other first teamers in the line up, in fact Watford could be more likely to make lots of changes. Interesting we have rearranged our game vs Hull to 20th Feb whereas Watford play Sheff Wed away on Wednesday after (31st Jan) As we have a whole week until our next game at Rotherham less pressure on Martin to rotate. Edited January 20 by JRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Rothwell definitely playing, Martin mentioned it in his interview after the game. I imagine Watford will rotate too as they have their eyes on the play offs so won't want any injuries or suspensions to key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Martin will be keen to keep the unbeaten run going but I sense the Cup is just a distraction for him. Maybe we can win whilst fielding an ineligible player and go out that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 51 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: I would like to see Rothwell instead of Stu give him a rest and Roths pace was a surprise to me . Mara will play as will Shea and if Holgate is still here so will he. Martin said in his post match press conference that Rothwell will play. I’d have thought the intent would be for Downes and KWP to be rested, but apart from Holgate we don’t have a spare RB. Not even sure Holgate will still be with us by this time next week, so KWP might have to play. Lumley, Stephens, Meghoma, Charles and Charlie surely will start. Reckon Sam Amo gets a go too, can’t see Downes being included. Out of that it’ll be interesting to see which first teamers get included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Any chance Bree is back? I thought I heard end of the month for him and Sulemana although not sure if anything has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Dibling to start? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 10 hours ago, The Cat said: Any chance Bree is back? I thought I heard end of the month for him and Sulemana although not sure if anything has changed. I think Martin said end of month for Bree, Edozie and Sulemana, not seen any of them training yet though. U21s at home to Celtic on Wednesday evening, not sure if over aged players can feature but might get an idea from that game if any get a run out for fitness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 10 hours ago, waylander said: Dibling to start? I really hope so. Certainly deserves it with his sub appearances so far. One of the reasons it would have been good if we'd gone 4-1 up yesterday was that we could have got him on the pitch again. I haven't been this excited about an academy player for a good few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 24 minutes ago, The Cat said: I really hope so. Certainly deserves it with his sub appearances so far. One of the reasons it would have been good if we'd gone 4-1 up yesterday was that we could have got him on the pitch again. I haven't been this excited about an academy player for a good few years. Agree, looks the part already. If he doesn't start then I 'd expect him to get on early second half. Good opportunity for Rothwell to start after another week on the training ground. Would think Lumley starts again too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 We'll obviously make wholesale changes for this game and rightly so given that the league is clearly our priority and we are not likely to win the FA Cup. As such a loss would not be the end of the world although I'm aware none of us ever like defeats in any competitive games. It's a good chance for others to come in and show what they can do and hopefully ramp up pressure on those regular starters. All things considered I'm quite relaxed about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 43 minutes ago, saintant said: We'll obviously make wholesale changes for this game and rightly so given that the league is clearly our priority and we are not likely to win the FA Cup. As such a loss would not be the end of the world although I'm aware none of us ever like defeats in any competitive games. It's a good chance for others to come in and show what they can do and hopefully ramp up pressure on those regular starters. All things considered I'm quite relaxed about this one. Agree, but it would be a shame to go out due to playing too weak a side, SAA needs to get better in physical contests so not sure if Watford are right opponents for him. Dibling looks better suited for that. Our fans definitely seem up for it, we sold out 4,029 in 2 days whereas looking on Watford site they've sold very few home end tickets so far, plenty on general sale for anyone looking for a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I will stick with what I have said before. No need to rotate as there are no extra games for us, just one per week during that period, so strongest team for me to keep the winning feeling and mentality. Try and put the game out of site by 60 minutes or so, then if he wants to rest some of the key players, being on fringe players then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not too fussed if we name a weaker team, think it's far more important that players who haven't played as much recently get 90 mins. I'm sure Watford will make some changes as well. We have decent squad depth so I back us to ease to a 2-0 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Rotate.. Shoehorn jack into the side, Lumley, Alcaraz, Rothwell, Charles, Mara to play Edited January 21 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Lumley,.Meghoma, Stephens and Rothwell, otherwise our strongest team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, east-stand-nic said: I will stick with what I have said before. No need to rotate as there are no extra games for us, just one per week during that period, so strongest team for me to keep the winning feeling and mentality. Try and put the game out of site by 60 minutes or so, then if he wants to rest some of the key players, being on fringe players then. It's worth repeating that it's not about resting them, it's about avoiding risking injuries to key players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 15 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Draw Last thing we want is a replay, but with some expected rotation a draw wouldn’t be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: Last thing we want is a replay, but with some expected rotation a draw wouldn’t be a surprise. I know I'm in danger of entering MLG-esque contrarian territory here, but if we are going to continue to use the cup as a means to give fringe players much needed game time, then it could be argued that a replay back at SMS would be a bonus/benefit in that regard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, trousers said: I know I'm in danger of entering MLG-esque contrarian territory here, but if we are going to continue to use the cup as a means to give fringe players much needed game time, then it could be argued that a replay back at SMS would be a bonus/benefit in that regard.... MLG would approve! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm torn on this one. Watford are obviously a step above Walsall, so too many changes and we risk the unbeaten streak in all competitions, but we also have to give the fringe players minutes. I'd give it a halfway house. 6 Changes. with the ability to bring on regulars at halftime / 60minutes Lumley KWP Bednarek Stephens Manning Charles Rothwell Smallbone SAA Mara Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Nolan said: I'm torn on this one. Watford are obviously a step above Walsall, so too many changes and we risk the unbeaten streak in all competitions, but we also have to give the fringe players minutes. I'd give it a halfway house. 6 Changes. with the ability to bring on regulars at halftime / 60minutes Lumley KWP Bednarek Stephens Manning Charles Rothwell Smallbone SAA Mara Fraser I doubt RM will risk Fraser with Edozie injured so will probably give Dibling a start which is no bad thing. Also think Meghoma deserves another start at left back and we may see Holgate in for Bednarek. Not the end of the world if we lose because we won't be winning the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, saintant said: I doubt RM will risk Fraser with Edozie injured so will probably give Dibling a start which is no bad thing. Also think Meghoma deserves another start at left back and we may see Holgate in for Bednarek. Not the end of the world if we lose because we won't be winning the FA Cup. If RF does not start for the good reason you stated do you not think Amo is the more likely replacement rather than Dibling? I think it’s nailed on that Lumley, Rothwell, Holgate, Stephens, Meg and Shea will all start. At least six changes therefore to usual starting line up and possibly more of RM fancies giving Tyler and Mara starts also. I think six is enough. More than that cannot see value in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, gio1saints said: If RF does not start for the good reason you stated do you not think Amo is the more likely replacement rather than Dibling? I think it’s nailed on that Lumley, Rothwell, Holgate, Stephens, Meg and Shea will all start. At least six changes therefore to usual starting line up and possibly more of RM fancies giving Tyler and Mara starts also. I think six is enough. More than that cannot see value in it. I was commenting on the suggested team by Nolan which included SAA which is why I opted for Dibling to replace Fraser. I'm sure SAA will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I want to see Dibling given more than a cameo apprearance, so I'd have him in my starting 11 for this one. From what I've seen, he looks more than ready to step up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I’d make a lot of changes personally, cup isn’t a priority at all this season. We need to aim for autos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We have a week between the cup and league game, let's go strong with a couple of starts for a few. Lumley; KWP, THB, Stephens, Meghoma; Downes; Charles, Alcaraz; Arma, Mara, Fraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: We have a week between the cup and league game, let's go strong We also have 6 games coming up in February (would be 8 games if the 4th round match goes to a replay and we end up going through to the 5th round), so I'd be leaning towards giving several of our regular first teamers a week off somewhere in the sunshine to recharge their batteries. Edited January 22 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSaint Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 RM suggested in one of the press conferences earlier this month that both Bree & Edozie could be fit again by the end of January. If they are, I guess it is possible one or both of them could at least be in the squad for Watford even if neither starts. Need to check out the training pictures during the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, trousers said: We also have 6 games coming up in February (would be 8 games if the 4th round match goes to a replay and we end up going through to the 5th round), so I'd be leaning towards giving several of our regular first teamers a week off somewhere in the sunshine to recharge their batteries. I never subscribe to this idea of resting players, especially when there's a whole week between games. If anything, the players can get rusty with a couple of weeks off and we shouldn't underestimate the winning mentality. Don't have a problem with Dibling, Meghoma and Rothwell given a start, but it'll be worrying if Jack S and Holgate are our centre back pairing. And judging by THB's reaction to being subbed against Swansea, he for one won't want a rest day. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Looks like Watford are resigning Dennis, wonder if he will be available for the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hey guys, I've just been running the numbers. If you look at, say, our last 18 games then you'll see we haven't lost a single match. So if we take that stat and carry it forward, it turns out we win the FA Cup no problem,as it's only four or five more games or something COYR 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Regurgitating other comments, but in summary I think there’s no need for “resting” but a definite need for “protecting “. Those I’d like protected are Downes, KWP, ArmA and Fraser. In addition I’d like Charlie to play and based on RM comments we know Rothwell will. I’d give the nod to Dibling ahead of SAA for the start, swapping them on about 60, so would want/expect something like Lumley Stephens Bednarek THB Meghoma Rothwell Shea Alcaraz (or Smallbone) Mara Adams (or Alcaraz) Dibling Wouldn’t be surprised if Smallbone started and Alcaraz was further up or to see Manning play. No need for changing keepers but it seems to be the done thing. Holgate would probably play if he’s still here I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It took me a while to realise that the thread title is referring to the date of the game, and not some crazy odds being offered on us to win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Was looking at the formations for the 9/12 match and saw Aribo (and Shea) started. Adds weight to why RM has said Rothwell will start- and probably in exactly that RM position too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Also noticed that our stats from then are not the usual obviously superior to opponents we been used to. I wasn’t at match but it seems we were not at our fluid best. Can anyone who went confirm (or deny) that? And/Or wa. It simply the absence of Flynn? Point I’m getting to is might it be an opportunity for RM to change formation up a bit and surprise Watford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I was there and it was a tight game. We generated few chances. Watford had the better chances which they didn't take until the very end when a weak shot eluded Baz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 What's the best train route to get to vicarage road? Train sites suggest changing at Clapham and avoiding the centre of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losgigantes Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Can we assume that there will be no TV feed of any sort for this game? What about radio commentary? We will be in the US at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Sulemana back for this game it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scummer said: What's the best train route to get to vicarage road? Train sites suggest changing at Clapham and avoiding the centre of London. Be aware that there are rail replacement buses between Southampton and Basingstoke on Sunday See info here: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/61768/a-rough-guide-to-watford-fa-cup-transport-update Edited January 23 by waylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, losgigantes said: Can we assume that there will be no TV feed of any sort for this game? What about radio commentary? We will be in the US at the weekend. It's on a lot of tv channels, not sure if you can zoom in , it's on ESPN in the U.S. , thats from the FA website. Edited January 23 by JRM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, waylander said: Be aware that there are rail replacement buses between Southampton and Basingstoke on Sunday There are some trains but going long way round via Havant I think, ridiculous it moved from the Saturday (trains were going to be fine then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnycS Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 hours ago, losgigantes said: Can we assume that there will be no TV feed of any sort for this game? What about radio commentary? We will be in the US at the weekend. Nope live on ESPN+ in the US 7 am West Coast and 4 am East Coast I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losgigantes Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 hours ago, JRM said: It's on a lot of tv channels, not sure if you can zoom in , it's on ESPN in the U.S. , thats from the FA website. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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