spyinthesky Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 26/06/2024 at 17:35, The Cat said: Maybe also in part due to the fact they built all over the land at Windhover which was one of the biggest park and ride car parks we had There was also a Park & Ride introduced at the tail end of our last Prem season using the Multi Storey at Nursling. It wasnt advertised too well and therefore take up was low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, AllyD said: Just driven round the ground, interesting progress - a new fenced off walkway behind the bike storage area and two new large portacabin like bars/food areas in situ. Fenced off walkway linked to away entrance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 26/06/2024 at 13:23, Saint86 said: Surprised the club can justify reducing the number of disabled parking spaces from 57 to 30. Have they reduced the number of disabled seats in the stadium or provided alternative means for disabled supporters to get to the stadium? On the face of that seems quite poorly thought through. Not trying to be funny but one of our stands is now entirely standing so surely that's affected how many spaces we need? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Saw these pics of some of the work getting under way at St Mary's earlier this week (from @sfcwxl on Twitter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 8 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Saw these pics of some of the work getting under way at St Mary's earlier this week (from @sfcwxl on Twitter) I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? I was wondering that too. Maybe it's so that it can be an open flow round the stadium pre-game but then they can put in temporary partitions shortly before KO and after games where they anticipate some aggro, so they get the away fans in/out without a flow of Saints fans or marching away fans through the home support. Edit: just re-read your message and realise you mean they don't touch the pavement! Fair question too Edited June 28 by CSA96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 14 hours ago, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? Any trouble, kettle the away fans, shut the gates on them, stewards police and everyone else can safely stand outside the fence laughing as the police dogs are let loose to crawl in under the gates and have their fun 🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 18 hours ago, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? Hedgehogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 19 hours ago, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? In the event of a crush anyone who ends up on the ground by the gate can roll under to safety? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 20 hours ago, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? It’s in case we ever play the skates again, it’s to let the smell out of the compound.😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 On 28/06/2024 at 19:51, M271 said: I wonder why the gates don't go down to nearer the ground level? Ease of opening and closing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 Crystal Palace are another PL club that think a big infrastructure investment will help them increase revenue, which will then allow them to spend more due to new financial rules coming in restrict you to a spending a % of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 34 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Crystal Palace are another PL club that think a big infrastructure investment will help them increase revenue, which will then allow them to spend more due to new financial rules coming in restrict you to a spending a % of income. Will take them to a 34,000 seater stadium. A ground so gigantic I can't even imagine it. The ambition of these clubs are completely blowing us out of the water. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) Palace are interesting. They have a huge catchment area..... Croydon is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, town in the country without a pro football team. Population 385k. Then there is a huge area of south London that has Wimbledon, and then the next closest is (I think, but happy to be told otherwise) Chelsea then Milwall. IMO if you wanted to buy a PL team and increased value of it, Palace would probably be top for me. Edited July 1 by angelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 30/06/2024 at 14:39, CB Fry said: Will take them to a 34,000 seater stadium. A ground so gigantic I can't even imagine it. The ambition of these clubs are completely blowing us out of the water. FFS, wish we were Crystal Croyden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 30/06/2024 at 14:39, CB Fry said: Will take them to a 34,000 seater stadium. A ground so gigantic I can't even imagine it. The ambition of these clubs are completely blowing us out of the water. As a % increase still a decent improvement for Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 7 hours ago, JRM said: As a % increase still a decent improvement for Palace It's the massive boost to their corporate facilities that will probably make the biggest difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 On 30/06/2024 at 14:39, CB Fry said: Will take them to a 34,000 seater stadium. A ground so gigantic I can't even imagine it. The ambition of these clubs are completely blowing us out of the water. Irrelevant to the point that an infrastructure investment ultimately allows you to spend more on transfers and wages under incoming financial rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 22 hours ago, angelman said: Palace are interesting. They have a huge catchment area..... Croydon is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, town in the country without a pro football team. Population 385k. Then there is a huge area of south London that has Wimbledon, and then the next closest is (I think, but happy to be told otherwise) Chelsea then Milwall. IMO if you wanted to buy a PL team and increased value of it, Palace would probably be top for me. Our catchment area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 01/07/2024 at 23:07, angelman said: Palace are interesting. They have a huge catchment area..... Croydon is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, town in the country without a pro football team. Population 385k. Then there is a huge area of south London that has Wimbledon, and then the next closest is (I think, but happy to be told otherwise) Chelsea then Milwall. IMO if you wanted to buy a PL team and increased value of it, Palace would probably be top for me. Played in a charity game at Tooting & Mitchams ground last Sunday, there were a lot of Palace shirts around and mainly by kids so good to see they haven't gone for the likes of Chelsea/Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 30/06/2024 at 14:03, Matthew Le God said: Crystal Palace are another PL club that think a big infrastructure investment will help them increase revenue, which will then allow them to spend more due to new financial rules coming in restrict you to a spending a % of income. If only Palace prioritised the god awful away end ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 13 minutes ago, warsash saint said: If only Palace prioritised the god awful away end ! The Arthur Wait is absolutely appalling! Ok it gave us Dellhurst Park but the concourses and toilets are a disgrace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 6 hours ago, CSA96 said: Showing our commitment to fans doing a bit of good old fashioned fence rattling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 Won't be easy to get a ticket next season for many. Only 5% of capacity (1,626 seats) available to non season ticket holders. Season tickets sold out... https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1809135612089250093?t=oIGUyreQO9oW6wrwCQfY7g&s=19 https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Won't be easy to get a ticket next season for many. Only 5% of capacity (1,626 seats) available to non season ticket holders. Season tickets sold out... https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1809135612089250093?t=oIGUyreQO9oW6wrwCQfY7g&s=19 https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 Great to see that relegation really didn’t harm our support last season, and likewise people aren’t/weren’t put off by the dire 2022/23 season and the likelihood of a few beatings coming our way. it’d be good if the club take a good look at expanding now it’s clear the fan base is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 As any expansion would be over the Kingsland perhaps the extra catering within the new fence is connected and they are seeing how it might work? But I presume the external wall would also be further out than now so the internal concourses would be extended, but maybe not sufficiently? Who knows? At least there is some small sign of investment going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Not sure why the club don’t release actual ST sales numbers. They used to back in the earlier days of St Mary’s. I seem to recall 23K being a high and Rupert Lowe MP stating he wanted to see 25k over multiple seasons before he consider stadium expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, The Kraken said: Not sure why the club don’t release actual ST sales numbers. They used to back in the earlier days of St Mary’s. I seem to recall 23K being a high and Rupert Lowe MP stating he wanted to see 25k over multiple seasons before he consider stadium expansion. Are match day tickets on sale already? Surely we could work it out by how many are available when they go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Are match day tickets on sale already? Surely we could work it out by how many are available when they go up. You could but it’s never going to be too accurate, you have to take into account all the corporate boxes, the lounges, comps for staff/players/guestsetc, that’s all a bit of an unknown quantity. Coukd probably make a best guess though I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Are match day tickets on sale already? Surely we could work it out by how many are available when they go up. Echo journalist Alfie House says in the Tweet I posted earlier... "Saints have confirmed membership information for the 2024/25 season with earlier ticket access as sales expected to be limited. Season tickets sold out at St Mary’s with I believe around 5% tickets held back for match-by-match sales." 5% = only a mere 1,626 seats left for match day tickets If that is true, season ticket numbers may be circa 26k/27k with the rest for corporate seats, the stadium boxes and the 3k away fans. https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 49 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Echo journalist Alfie House says in the Tweet I posted earlier... "Saints have confirmed membership information for the 2024/25 season with earlier ticket access as sales expected to be limited. Season tickets sold out at St Mary’s with I believe around 5% tickets held back for match-by-match sales." 5% = only a mere 1,626 seats left for match day tickets If that is true, season ticket numbers may be circa 26k/27k with the rest for corporate seats, the stadium boxes and the 3k away fans. https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 I don't think the club have confirmed anywhere how many season tickets have been sold. They've decided they've reached a total they are happy to stop at , if sales are as high as we're assuming I worry that will encourage the club to put game by game prices sky high as so few for them to sell. Would be a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 14 minutes ago, JRM said: I don't think the club have confirmed anywhere how many season tickets have been sold. They've decided they've reached a total they are happy to stop at , if sales are as high as we're assuming I worry that will encourage the club to put game by game prices sky high as so few for them to sell. Would be a shame. Wouldn't get those nasty away supporters in the home end though, like the 100k Leeds fans that bought memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Echo journalist Alfie House says in the Tweet I posted earlier... "Saints have confirmed membership information for the 2024/25 season with earlier ticket access as sales expected to be limited. Season tickets sold out at St Mary’s with I believe around 5% tickets held back for match-by-match sales." 5% = only a mere 1,626 seats left for match day tickets If that is true, season ticket numbers may be circa 26k/27k with the rest for corporate seats, the stadium boxes and the 3k away fans. https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 Some of the season tickets holders will actually be in hospitality areas, so I think you’ll find there will be more match days tickets available than you suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, oldsarum said: Some of the season tickets holders will actually be in hospitality areas, so I think you’ll find there will be more match days tickets available than you suggest I included corporate seats & boxes in my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Echo journalist Alfie House says in the Tweet I posted earlier... "Saints have confirmed membership information for the 2024/25 season with earlier ticket access as sales expected to be limited. Season tickets sold out at St Mary’s with I believe around 5% tickets held back for match-by-match sales." 5% = only a mere 1,626 seats left for match day tickets If that is true, season ticket numbers may be circa 26k/27k with the rest for corporate seats, the stadium boxes and the 3k away fans. https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 With the area we live in expanding at such a fast rate, then surely it would be very short sighted to not expand our stadium, especially with the season ticket sales being so high this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 06/07/2024 at 09:37, Matthew Le God said: Won't be easy to get a ticket next season for many. Only 5% of capacity (1,626 seats) available to non season ticket holders. Season tickets sold out... https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1809135612089250093?t=oIGUyreQO9oW6wrwCQfY7g&s=19 https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1809142722235601385?t=dCTc1uQ-vYRnQ_TqcEgP4A&s=19 Another 5 seasons of that, people consistently clambering for tickets, still being settled in the PL, and it'll then be time for a discussion about expanding the stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 8 hours ago, egg said: Another 5 seasons of that, people consistently clambering for tickets, still being settled in the PL, and it'll then be time for a discussion about expanding the stadium. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 11 hours ago, egg said: Another 5 seasons of that, people consistently clambering for tickets, still being settled in the PL, and it'll then be time for a discussion about expanding the stadium. So is that the purpose of the new fencing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 The below clearly shows the area around St Marys is right for development by either the Club or the City 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I am pretty sure there has been ongoing discussions between the club and the Council at least from the Cortese days. As far as I am aware the Council owns the freehold of a lot of land around the stadium and they certainly would like to 'gentrify' the Itchen waterfront. However the Aggregate companies on the waterfront adjacent to St Marys have long leases and the ships would need to find a new home to operate. In this respect there could be options over at Dibden Bay if that ever gets developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 17 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: I am pretty sure there has been ongoing discussions between the club and the Council at least from the Cortese days. As far as I am aware the Council owns the freehold of a lot of land around the stadium and they certainly would like to 'gentrify' the Itchen waterfront. However the Aggregate companies on the waterfront adjacent to St Marys have long leases and the ships would need to find a new home to operate. In this respect there could be options over at Dibden Bay if that ever gets developed. It must drive the council and club mad. It has such untapped potential on a residential and commerical basis that strip between Shamrock Quay and Ocean Village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Looks like Man Utd at home is sold out already a month in advance, not sure we've ever sold out like that before a season has already started (Nottingham Forest also sold out early) , potential for us to get bigger crowds if stadium allowed for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, JRM said: Looks like Man Utd at home is sold out already a month in advance, not sure we've ever sold out like that before a season has already started (Nottingham Forest also sold out early) , potential for us to get bigger crowds if stadium allowed for it. To be expected I guess, but things will probably come back down to earth if we really struggle (quite likely). Not unreasonable to want to see a prolonged period of sell-outs before committing to costly expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint francis Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 14 minutes ago, JRM said: Looks like Man Utd at home is sold out already a month in advance, not sure we've ever sold out like that before a season has already started (Nottingham Forest also sold out early) , potential for us to get bigger crowds if stadium allowed for it. There will be a fair few Utd supporters in the home end if history is anything to go by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 31 minutes ago, saint francis said: There will be a fair few Utd supporters in the home end if history is anything to go by... Think this will get clamped down on now. With digital tickets, the club will be able to work out who has purchased for them and is getting them into the ground and it'll be faster/easier to issue warnings and potentially block purchases moving forward for people who are found to not be using their season ticket / match ticket and giving it to oppo fans. They have also said that for certain big games they even have the possibility of disabling ticket transfers to emails that aren't already in the system or just disabling ticket transfers and the ticket exchange altogether for those types of fixtures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 46 minutes ago, saint francis said: There will be a fair few Utd supporters in the home end if history is anything to go by... I'm sure , but that's why I also noted Forest selling out well in advance. Games selling out to members with purchase history and season ticket holder additional, where the risk is if season ticket holders buy for United supporting mates , if that happens and get caught they'll lose their season ticket so hopefully not many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 5 hours ago, Nolan said: The below clearly shows the area around St Marys is right for development by either the Club or the City The housing in Everton and Liverpool, the rows like that, so awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Information on fan zones; what's happening in each one and timings here: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/three-fan-zones-launch-at-st-marys-for-premier-league-opener?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=stadium-changes&utm_term=fan-zones&utm_content=link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 4 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Information on fan zones; what's happening in each one and timings here: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/three-fan-zones-launch-at-st-marys-for-premier-league-opener?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=stadium-changes&utm_term=fan-zones&utm_content=link Love that they're open late. One of the first steps I've seen towards getting the area around the stadium to be more of a social draw. Bit like Wembley with all of the restaurants, bars and fan zones around it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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