JRM Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The allowance to introduce safe standing has resulted in a few clubs moving around supporters, we're certainly not alone in this, Stoke also moving away fans https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/2024/april/18/24-25-stadium-configuration-plans-confirmed/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Now womens football is so popular does this mean the birds in the crowd will start following their own team and leave the terraces back to the lads like how it should be? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Chez said: a difference to what? Increased singing, buzz and general away day vibe as opposed to seating I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, Monk said: Increased singing, buzz and general away day vibe as opposed to seating I suppose. Guessing the 😐 face is down to you getting paid to work at a certain club down the road 🤣 I'll probably make a beeline for safe standing as my back hurts if I sit down in stadium seats but I'm also curious if it will be priced competitively or are they going to charge more for the privilege of leaning against a bit of aluminium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 35 minutes ago, eurosaint said: I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… They don’t do replies ! Woeful service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, eurosaint said: I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… You would hope they're pulling out a "column" of seats from the away end to fit a barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 10 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said: They don’t do replies ! Woeful service Instead of responding to 20,000 individual emails they’ll probably release the information at some point so people can work it out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 43 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said: Instead of responding to 20,000 individual emails they’ll probably release the information at some point so people can work it out. A set of FAQ's would be the least they could do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, eurosaint said: A set of FAQ's would be the least they could do ! https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/faqs-mens-team-season-tickets-2024-25 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 14 hours ago, eurosaint said: I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… Per the club's FAQs (linked above), the segregation will be in block 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Steve Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 17 hours ago, Leighsterrr said: Just trying to catch up with this thread so apologies if I've missed a response on this already! Love my seat in Block 15 which is soon to become part of the family stand. Are we gonna get told that we have no choice but to move if none of our groups season tickets are kids ones? We wouldn't switch to the Northam as one of ours is a concession and doesn't want a standing seat, and moving to the Kingsland/Itchen centre would be a big price hike for us so doesn't leave us many options. Really wanted to stay where we are but have a feeling that if it's a family stand we may not be able to...anybody know the answer to this already? I know the club will announce it in the coming weeks but if we need to move I'd like to start thinking about it now 👍🏻 Sadly we have to move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, trousers said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/faqs-mens-team-season-tickets-2024-25 They do cover a lot there. Interesting about the fully digital ticket system for next season. Assume that we will then be able to get tickets for cup games digitally as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 16 hours ago, eurosaint said: I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… Unlikely, as I've always understood it UK stadium design regulations do not permit any seat to be more than 14 seats away from an exit aisle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 @franniesTache - what is the 1885 group and are you part of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gru Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 17 hours ago, eurosaint said: I’ve still not had an answer about whether there will be a net between blocks 28 (away fans) and block 29 (older home fans) ! If there is then I will have to squeeze past 28 seats to get in, out and go for a piss at half time ! There will be no option because one end will be blocked off ! Also need to know in advance which roads to the south will still be available to us ! Sent an email but no response so far… I'm in the same boat as you - literally. This from FAQ's: Away coaches will now be parking on Melbourne Road meaning home fans will be directed away from using Melbourne Road or accessing the stadium on the Kingsland/Chapel corner. If you currently use this route, you’ll be directed along Marine Parade or you'll need to use one of the other entrance points to the stadium. Perhaps they'll now move coaches for ferry and station to Northam end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, Gru said: I'm in the same boat as you - literally. This from FAQ's: Away coaches will now be parking on Melbourne Road meaning home fans will be directed away from using Melbourne Road or accessing the stadium on the Kingsland/Chapel corner. If you currently use this route, you’ll be directed along Marine Parade or you'll need to use one of the other entrance points to the stadium. Perhaps they'll now move coaches for ferry and station to Northam end. Any coaches going to Southampton Central could probably be switched to Britannia Road where the away coaches currently park, but I'd imagine it makes sense for the ferry ones to remain at the Chapel end, there are coach parking spots on Chapel Road that make it quick and easy to get away and in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gru Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, stevegrant said: Any coaches going to Southampton Central could probably be switched to Britannia Road where the away coaches currently park, but I'd imagine it makes sense for the ferry ones to remain at the Chapel end, there are coach parking spots on Chapel Road that make it quick and easy to get away and in the right direction. Was wishful thinking really. Presumably fans leaving the Kingsland will be forced to turn right and make a circuit of the stadium to access coaches parked in Chapel Road. Not great if pushed for time and/or not very mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, Gru said: Was wishful thinking really. Presumably fans leaving the Kingsland will be forced to turn right and make a circuit of the stadium to access coaches parked in Chapel Road. Not great if pushed for time and/or not very mobile. Got to be a way of segregating down Melbourne Street - can imagine there's a lot of people in the Kingsland who would go that way, and blocking it off will only increase the pressure on the bridge in the Northam/Kingsland corner. Put the coaches in the crescent bit of Melbourne Street, allowing home fans in the Kingsland to still use the main road to exit the area, and home fans from the Itchen/Chapel can use Marina Parade if they are travelling in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gru Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, stevegrant said: Got to be a way of segregating down Melbourne Street - can imagine there's a lot of people in the Kingsland who would go that way, and blocking it off will only increase the pressure on the bridge in the Northam/Kingsland corner. Put the coaches in the crescent bit of Melbourne Street, allowing home fans in the Kingsland to still use the main road to exit the area, and home fans from the Itchen/Chapel can use Marina Parade if they are travelling in that direction. Yeah, I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 17 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said: They don’t do replies ! Woeful service try using "Corporate box hire" in the subject line. That seems to grab the eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franniesTache Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 20 hours ago, stevegrant said: Everyone has their own way of supporting the team, probably a fair chance there's plenty of our travelling support who would have a similar opinion of you. Probably think i'm dull at aways these days, tend to drink nowhere near our fans, turn up before kick off, watch the game, don't really join in with many songs as i hate the constant dirge of pompey/library songs, then go back to the pub. I think i've spent more time talking to home fans on away days than our own fans in recent years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Anyone know where the safe area for the rainbow saints will be now? Cant see it on the plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Anyone know where the safe area for the rainbow saints will be now? Cant see it on the plans. Everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 18/04/2024 at 14:15, Chez said: Anyone actually been to a game with safe standing? What's it like? It obviously doesn't offer the same thrills and experience as the packed terraces, but does it lend itself to more singing, more confidence to start a song, make an anonymous comment... Its fab, Chelsea and Spurs were excellent occasions and a far better way to watch football. So much more room plus you have your own crossbar. Use to have to get the ground seriously early to get that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wurzel said: Unlikely, as I've always understood it UK stadium design regulations do not permit any seat to be more than 14 seats away from an exit aisle Some people just need their imaginary problems so they have something to moan about. Imagine the whingefest the nimbies must have had when we moved from the Dell to St Mary's and everyone had to change their seats and their routes to the ground. How did we ever manage to get through that? Edited April 19 by Nordic Saint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franniesTache Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said: You shouldn't have told him that. Some people need their imaginary problems so they have something to moan about. Imagine the whingefest the nimbies must have had when we moved from the Dell to St Mary's and everyone had to change their seats and their routes to the ground. How did we ever manage to get through that? we all decided on where we would go, the archers moved to the northam, under the east to the itchen north and the milton to the chapel (as a rule), it was actually pretty easy and most people were happy. Though a lot of people (myself included) mourned the Dell, as nice as St Mary's is/was it's never had the soul of the Dell due to the fact that it's a bowl and the seats are much further away from the pitch and the noise not so held in the ground. As for the route i did feel for pubs like the Fitz that lost most of the revenue that kept them going, in fact a fair few of those pubs have no gone completely as a result of the dell closing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 16 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said: You shouldn't have told him that. Some people need their imaginary problems so they have something to moan about. Imagine the whingefest the nimbies must have had when we moved from the Dell to St Mary's and everyone had to change their seats and their routes to the ground. How did we ever manage to get through that? Rumour has it that some never did, apparently they can still be seen wandering around Hill Lane and Archers Rd every Saturday afternoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, franniesTache said: we all decided on where we would go, the archers moved to the northam, under the east to the itchen north and the milton to the chapel (as a rule), it was actually pretty easy and most people were happy. Though a lot of people (myself included) mourned the Dell, as nice as St Mary's is/was it's never had the soul of the Dell due to the fact that it's a bowl and the seats are much further away from the pitch and the noise not so held in the ground. As for the route i did feel for pubs like the Fitz that lost most of the revenue that kept them going, in fact a fair few of those pubs have no gone completely as a result of the dell closing. There was still a fair bit of debate, the Archers was a bit of a split in the end with a fair number picking the back of the Chapel for the first season but then most of them moved to the Northam after that when it became clear they were very much in the minority. It wasn't anywhere near as straightforward as you make out. It worked itself out after a year or two, but without anything physical to work with at the time (remember that 3D model that everyone got shown as an approximation of what your view would be like? ) and relatively few of the fanbase using forums, communication and organisation was difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, stevegrant said: There was still a fair bit of debate, the Archers was a bit of a split in the end with a fair number picking the back of the Chapel for the first season but then most of them moved to the Northam after that when it became clear they were very much in the minority. It wasn't anywhere near as straightforward as you make out. It worked itself out after a year or two, but without anything physical to work with at the time (remember that 3D model that everyone got shown as an approximation of what your view would be like? ) and relatively few of the fanbase using forums, communication and organisation was difficult. the seating plans on here were a couple of years late pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Need to make sure that this makes an appearance in this thread. It's only been a few weeks since it was last posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Need to make sure that this makes an appearance in this thread. It's only been a few weeks since it was last posted. Still our best shirt since 1885 tbf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 24 minutes ago, kwsaint said: Still our best shirt since 1885 tbf. Agreed. I honestly wouldn't be against moving to the sash design permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, macca155 said: Its fab, Chelsea and Spurs were excellent occasions and a far better way to watch football. So much more room plus you have your own crossbar. Use to have to get the ground seriously early to get that. & old Trafford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 hours ago, macca155 said: Its fab, Chelsea and Spurs were excellent occasions and a far better way to watch football. So much more room plus you have your own crossbar. Use to have to get the ground seriously early to get that. No more limbs? I could get behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 19/04/2024 at 08:53, trousers said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/faqs-mens-team-season-tickets-2024-25 Thanks for that, I obviously missed it and it does clarify most of my issues ! Sadly after more than 35 years as an ST holder I've decided to pack it in and get a membership in order to pick and choose when I go or don't go (also where I sit or don't sit)! I totally accept that change suits some but not others so good luck to those you manage to get a satisfactory move 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die Mannyschaft Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 For me standing will be better as get cramp in legs most games. The seats are ridiculously small with the gap fir seat in front not enough. Been in block 43, 13, 37 now 24. The corner views are much better not sure why can't buy in 39,39, 47,48 why just the block in red on map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 31 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: For me standing will be better as get cramp in legs most games. The seats are ridiculously small with the gap fir seat in front not enough. Been in block 43, 13, 37 now 24. The corner views are much better not sure why can't buy in 39,39, 47,48 why just the block in red on map. I agree, I'm 6ft 2 bloke and find it a squeeze sat down depending on who I'm next to, not enough leg room, find it much much more comfortable standing at games, think St Mary's must have been designed for the average fan being 5ft 8 and slim as width of seats isn't that big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Give it to Ron Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) If you want evidence it won’t work look at yesterday we had whole end good vocal support I thought yet we absolutely bottled it again. money better spent on the pitch Edited April 21 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: If you want evidence it won’t work look at yesterday we had whole end good vocal support I thought yet we absolutely bottled it again. money better spent on the pitch I sadly think the net result of all the changes will be lower season ticket sales and lower "attendances". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I sadly think the net result of all the changes will be lower season ticket sales and lower "attendances". Agreed piss off and move loads for what 3k? our focus should be on pitch get that right the noise and support will be there. Not a crocked forward, not a wide man blocking youth like SAA, not wasted on a DCM the manager treats like shit. The most important thing is the team and we again got recruiting wrong its why we were relegated 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, Master Bates said: So, not new rail seating then, just crush barriers being installed. Looks like we're keeping the pink seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Struggling to work out what part of installing rail seating in northam required the away fans to move to the kingsland chapel corner and the club pissing off a good part of SMS in the process. Edited April 21 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franniesTache Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 19/04/2024 at 16:19, stevegrant said: There was still a fair bit of debate, the Archers was a bit of a split in the end with a fair number picking the back of the Chapel for the first season but then most of them moved to the Northam after that when it became clear they were very much in the minority. It wasn't anywhere near as straightforward as you make out. It worked itself out after a year or two, but without anything physical to work with at the time (remember that 3D model that everyone got shown as an approximation of what your view would be like? ) and relatively few of the fanbase using forums, communication and organisation was difficult. I don't remember any debate amongst those round me in block 5, pretty much everyone looked at the ground design and said the northam is behind the goal and next to the away fans we'll move there. Same was true of my brothers lot who were under the east, they looked at st mary's and choose the itchen north because of it's location. You're right though there weren't forums or social media so it was mostly done in the ground/pubs rather than online. The funny thing is in all my time going (from the early 80's) Saints have never really had one single end, it's just not been our culture. Different parts of the ground have served different needs and had different types of people in them, the milton was much younger than the archers or under the east and probably the most similar to the northam now. Under the east was always more of a "lads" culture, as was the split stand archers back when they had the cage, and the west stand lot were much more of the dressers/casuals. It's actually something that i liked about st mary's as it was before, you could have different pockets of groups with different ways of supporting saints, and slightly different cultures (arguably that changed massively post covid as the itchen north back them northam-lite) which this "northam wall" will kill off by design. I'd personally be amazed if the northam wall doesn't ultimately lead to us having our own form of the tinpot "ultras" other clubs have now, i really, really fucking hope that's not the case but it does seem to be the way things are going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 13 hours ago, Saint86 said: Struggling to work out what part of installing rail seating in northam required the away fans to move to the kingsland chapel corner and the club pissing off a good part of SMS in the process. its go nothing to do with the rail seating. Its because they wanted to improve atmosphere in the ground by having a single end. Will it work? Probably not, but that's their logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) On 22/04/2024 at 12:51, franniesTache said: The funny thing is in all my time going (from the early 80's) Saints have never really had one single end, I went, almost always, in the Milton from the early 1960s. Surely we had both the Milton and the Archers ends. Or don’t those two count as ends? Not trying to be funny or anything; just puzzled by the comment. Although, I suppose having both ends is not quite the same as having one single end; problem solved. Perhaps I should not have bothered. Edited April 23 by Tommy Mulgrew 60s, not 80s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franniesTache Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said: I went, almost always, in the Milton from the early 1980s. Surely we had both the Milton and the Archers ends. Or don’t those two count as ends? Not trying to be funny or anything; just puzzled by the comment. Although, I suppose having both ends is not quite the same as having one single end; problem solved. Perhaps I should not have bothered. yup exactly that, the focus wasn't on one in particular. I loved the Milton when i was a nipper but the Milton was never THE home end it was just another part of the ground (and don't forget the Archers lot called the fans in the Milton Milton Muppets). I don't think in my life we've ever had a "Kop" and fans have always moved around depending on various things (age, type of support etc.) The single big focus point end isn't really a southampton thing, same way our away support has always been more lots of small groups of mates rather than one big group. No idea why that is but i do wonder if it's to do with how the city itself is set out geographically, growing up i can always remember a lot of rivalries between different parts of the city (Swaythling and Bitterne for example), and some places can feel pretty remote and different depending on where you lived (Thornhill and Millbrook can feel miles apart and even have slightly different accents). Edited April 22 by franniesTache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Anyone that can purchase today - would be good to availability if you could share a screenshot. Obviously some blocks will already nearly be full with current season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) On 22/04/2024 at 14:10, Tommy Mulgrew said: I went, almost always, in the Milton from the early 1980s. Surely we had both the Milton and the Archers ends. Or don’t those two count as ends? Not trying to be funny or anything; just puzzled by the comment. Although, I suppose having both ends is not quite the same as having one single end; problem solved. Perhaps I should not have bothered. In the 60s and early 70s, our home end was unequivocally the Milton. Unfortunately, neither end had a roof over it, so the acoustics were not great. At most other grounds, the home end was the covered end and the uncovered end was the away end. In those days we dreamed of having a big covered end such as we now have in the Northam. That was the reason for the initial move of some of our singers under the West Stand, which because it had a roof, had much better acoustics. So, by the late 70s, there were some singers left in the Milton and another group under the West Stand. But, as you can see from the pictures of the Channon Testimonial, in 1976 the Milton was still very much our home end. Edited April 23 by Nordic Saint 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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