Unbelievable Jeff Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 2 observations . A lot of them were in away games, so hopefully suit our pressing/counter attacking style. A lot were "opportunist" goals. Some see that as lucky or lacking in skill. I see that as someone with an eye for what's happening and reads the game and anticipates well. Knows where the ball is going, knows where the goal is. 1 question. For a lot of them the keeper seemed to go down slowly to low/ground shots. Are they just crap keepers in that league or is he beating them with unexpected power and/or disguised direction? He's hitting the ball early, they are not set well - the point I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Hmmm a lot of really awful defending and goalkeeping in that video. Not sure half of those would make it through the keeper as much in the premier league. I will repeat - he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Hmmm a lot of really awful defending and goalkeeping in that video. Not sure half of those would make it through the keeper as much in the premier league. Let me get this right, we are moaning because he takes a shot? As the old saying goes "Gotta buy a lottery ticket to win the lottery" I'd rather have a striker willing to shoot now and then, than someone more interested in the perfect goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 This coupled with the fact that most of his goals required very little skill on his part is what makes me think this signing is a mistake. People go on about his pace but I don't even see any evidence of that, doesn't seem to be any quicker than Austin. What do you mean, "this"? It has absolutely nothing do do with Adams. "This," isn't anything, other than proof that Shane Long failed to make the same impression in the Premier League. Austin and Ings were both capable of 15 in this league without their fitness issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Hmmm a lot of really awful defending and goalkeeping in that video. Not sure half of those would make it through the keeper as much in the premier league. There is a lot of **** defending and goalkeeping in this video.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQtZdiM2iA& The majority of goals have a **** up somewhere in them from the defending team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 What on earth is this thread about. We're ripping apart his goals because they weren't very good? He was there to score them though? Would you rather it was a video of him missing chances? Sometimes people on here confuse the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Our fans are a bunch of idiots.... 22 years old plenty of potential I hope we get this one over the line ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Our fans are a bunch of idiots.... 22 years old plenty of potential I hope we get this one over the line ASAP! Yup me too - seems to be a natural goalscorer, if you watch Harry Kane, his best asset is that he puts the ball in position to have a shot as early as possible and takes it early, thats a talent and shouldn't be sniffed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 He's hitting the ball early, they are not set well - the point I was making.Having just watched them all again I agree with you, rarely needs a second touch, gets it, hits it. Also I'd say his body shaping for 4 or 5 of the goals scored from 12 to 18 yards out look to me like the ball should be going the other side of the keeper, it's no wonder they seem slow to react Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 He looks quick, strong, and he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. What's not to like? Agree on this, not just because it catches keepers off guard but also important because in the PL you don't usually have time to get set for a strike - take an extra split second and the chance is gone. The finish vs Sheff Wed at 01:00 is particularly good example of how quickly he takes the shot after controlling the ball. However, how much of that is confidence? He was on a great run last season so probably trusted his instincts more and saw the results. In the last couple of games of the season we saw Danny Ings overthinking his chances or waiting too long to take the shot - almost trying too hard - as a product of his lack of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Hmmm a lot of really awful defending and goalkeeping in that video. Not sure half of those would make it through the keeper as much in the premier league. That was what I said originally. What on earth is this thread about. We're ripping apart his goals because they weren't very good? He was there to score them though? Would you rather it was a video of him missing chances? Sometimes people on here confuse the hell out of me. As Adrian said above, unlikely to get the space/amount of chances he got in the Championship...defenders will be more alert, quicker to close down and sharper in the tackle and keepers won't be as slow to react. If he gets double figures I will happily hold my hands up and say I was wrong, but I just haven't seen anything about him to be able to get excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Our fans are a bunch of idiots.... 22 years old plenty of potential I hope we get this one over the line ASAP! Alright, calm down. You’re talking about two people and they aren’t idiots, it’s just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 We actually scored some pretty good goals last season, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Has anyone actually watched the below: He looks quick, strong, and he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. What's not to like? Best goal is 4.05....great build up, off the post meggin the keeper lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 This coupled with the fact that most of his goals required very little skill on his part is what makes me think this signing is a mistake. People go on about his pace but I don't even see any evidence of that, doesn't seem to be any quicker than Austin. The same Charlie Austin who went on to score 18 PL goals in 35 games for a relegated team just a year after that 25 championship goals season, that Charlie Austin? And you must be blind to not see he has more pace than Austin. Even with all his injury issues, Austin still has a 1 in 3 record in the PL, probably closer to 1 in 2 for starts. So I have no idea why Austin is anything but a clear marker that people who score goals in the Championship, especially young players, can't go on and score decently in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 He looks a decent player to me, 22 y.o with plenty of speed and power and of course 22 goals. All that plus he's scored heavily in a league that is tough and competitive. What's not to like? I don't see why under Ralph's tutelage he couldn't get 10-15 in the prem. IMO exactly the sort of player the club should be signing. Would they like Shane Long in exchange? He'd probably do very well in the champ.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 He looks a decent player to me, 22 y.o with plenty of speed and power and of course 22 goals. All that plus he's scored heavily in a league that is tough and competitive.. And for a not very good team either that struggled most of the year, pretty much all the other high scorers last year in the Championship were playing for top 6 teams challenging for promotion. Except Che Adams and Jarrod Bowen who scored goals for average if not poor teams, which IMO makes their goal tallies even more impressive. I'd like to see us go for both these two young English players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Are we close to signing what's the latest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Are we close to signing what's the latest? Just need to up our bid, by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Just watched the video; to use an old cliché, "knows where the goal is". Bit like a Charlie Austin with running. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 The same Charlie Austin who went on to score 18 PL goals in 35 games for a relegated team just a year after that 25 championship goals season, that Charlie Austin? And you must be blind to not see he has more pace than Austin. Even with all his injury issues, Austin still has a 1 in 3 record in the PL, probably closer to 1 in 2 for starts. So I have no idea why Austin is anything but a clear marker that people who score goals in the Championship, especially young players, can't go on and score decently in the PL. Austins goal highlights featured much better worked goals than the one above. I don't know why people are so upset that i'm not excited by a signing. I'm excited by Djenepo if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Has anyone actually watched the below: He looks quick, strong, and he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. What's not to like? Pretty much everything. He just won't score like that in the better league unless he catches the keepers out because they think he'll hit it cleanly. Having watched him I think he's regressed since he started at Sheff Utd where I thought he was going to be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 If Ralph wants him I'm cool with it. Looks like someone who plays on the shoulder, has some strength and is very direct in style. That seems a good fit for Ralph's system. Basically, a Schlong with more goals. We've got Redmond, Ings and Djenepo to do clever stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 If Ralph wants him I'm cool with it. Looks like someone who plays on the shoulder, has some strength and is very direct in style. That seems a good fit for Ralph's system. Basically, a Schlong with more goals. We've got Redmond, Ings and Djenepo to do clever stuff.Ings hasn't done much "clever stuff' Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 Sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 There are a lot of excellent finishes in there. Hope we get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Just pay the money saints. Too many examples of players wriggling away or going to teams with more ambition. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund24 Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 I will repeat - he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. He also has a knack for hitting the bottom corner while hitting it early. There is some poor defending in that video but some is caused by good Birmingham pressure leading to mistakes. He is quick, not rapid, but has the strength to hold off defenders. The Prem has plenty of horse **** defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Hopefully we get this done soonish as we clearly want him. Saw a video from the Birmingham Mail where their Leitch was talking about him and said he is much better up front in a two and has only really flourished with Jutkiwicz alongside him. Wonder if we are planning for the 4-2-2-2 but if we are then we badly need a CB who is a bit quicker, and alround better, than what we currently have. Will be ripped apart otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Just pay the money saints. Too many examples of players wriggling away or going to teams with more ambition. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Portsmouth were saying this, before they went bust!!! If it were your money, you might have a bit more perspective on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 The Prem has plenty of horse **** defending Most of it ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Portsmouth were saying this, before they went bust!!! If it were your money, you might have a bit more perspective on things. Portsmouth hadn't sold the majority of their first team over the previous seasons for millions, nor were they getting hundreds of millions every season from astronomical TV deals, nor did they have any infrastructure whatsoever. The comparisons with those ****s are ridiculously wide of the mark. It's not our money even if we don't spend it, so not sure what we get out of that arrangement either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Birmingham supporter who I work with is resigned to losing Adams this window - says he is clearly destined for bigger, better things. Still a little raw, will make mistakes but for £14m would be a steal; she compared directly to Maddison price last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund24 Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Most of it ours. Will build his confidence in training at least!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Can he play left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Refusing to sign until the number of pages on this thread reaches at least double figures, I've heard. Come on chaps, we can get this over the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Reminds me a bit of Andre Gray, if he hits 10 goals in the season his value will rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Hmmm a lot of really awful defending and goalkeeping in that video. Not sure half of those would make it through the keeper as much in the premier league. I remember how useless Ricky Lambert ws when he reached the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 There are a lot of excellent finishes in there. Hope we get him. I like the way a number of shots are placed in the corner, footballers make me mad when they blast the ball straight at the goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Wouldn't be surprised if Palace make a late bid if they sell Wan Bissaka for £50m+. They're after a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 If Everton gazump us again I will sulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 I remember how useless Ricky Lambert ws when he reached the Premier League Yeah he was really sh1t....Christ you post some rubbish. So getting selected for England in his Prem form was coincidental? Liverpool signed him because he was rubbish. Was it because he was so good against Arsenal he upset you? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Just pay the money saints. Too many examples of players wriggling away or going to teams with more ambition. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk We did that with Carrillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Yeah he was really sh1t....Christ you post some rubbish. So getting selected for England in his Prem form was coincidental? Liverpool signed him because he was rubbish. Was it because he was so good against Arsenal he upset you? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThink that was sarcasm, bud. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Think that was sarcasm, bud. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Ah cheers touchy subject when it comes to Lambert Was the most enjoyable years watching him coming up divisions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Yeah he was really sh1t....Christ you post some rubbish. So getting selected for England in his Prem form was coincidental? Liverpool signed him because he was rubbish. Was it because he was so good against Arsenal he upset you? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Settle pettle....... WHHhhooooooosssshhhhhhhhhhhh.......!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Settle pettle....... WHHhhooooooosssshhhhhhhhhhhh.......!!! Bit like my walking football played the man not the ball Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 We did that with Carrillo Can't remember anyone else being interested Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 If Everton gazump us again I will sulkWho have Everton gazumped us on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 June, 2019 Share Posted 21 June, 2019 Who have Everton gazumped us on? Pat Nevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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