S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Loan now - perm at end of season. Pretty sure it was a perm now. That's what was advertised on our OS and Sampdoria anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Where's the Gabbi money gone , thought that was a perm ? Pretty sure it was a perm now. That's what was advertised on our OS and Sampdoria anyway. Was a permanent transfer. Believe the cash for that goes towards the £18m for Ings in the summer. (People forget we haven't paid for that yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Loan now - perm at end of season. He has already left... it is not a loan he has gone permanently already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Was a permanent transfer. Believe the cash for that goes towards the £18m for Ings in the summer. (People forget we haven't paid for that yet). What do we do with all our other revenue then ? (Tv money , prize money , sponsorship ,Match day income etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 What do we do with all our other revenue then ? (Tv money , prize money , sponsorship ,Match day income etc etc) Goes towards astronomical wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 What do we do with all our other revenue then ? (Tv money , prize money , sponsorship ,Match day income etc etc) The majority goes to a wage bill that is among the highest in european football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 My sources tell me Adams is very keen to come to Saints but we can only complete the deal if Austin goes, as that way we save a few quid by re-using Charlie's old "CA" training kit. If anyone else leaves instead, we have to start the scouting process from scratch, to find someone else with the same initials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 My sources tell me Adams is very keen to come to Saints but we can only complete the deal if Austin goes' date=' as that way we save a few quid by re-using Charlie's old "CA" training kit. If anyone else leaves instead, we have to start the scouting process from scratch, to find someone else with the same initials.[/quote'] Charlie Adam it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 As far as I understand, Birmingham are still under a transfer embargo so I really cannot see them selling anyone near the first team regardless of the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 As far as I understand, Birmingham are still under a transfer embargo so I really cannot see them selling anyone near the first team regardless of the fee. We'd have been better off if we had a transfer embargo for the last 3 years or so then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Was a permanent transfer. Believe the cash for that goes towards the £18m for Ings in the summer. (People forget we haven't paid for that yet). That's just rubbish. We will have enough to pay for Ings in the summer, our budget for the summer should not be 10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 That's just rubbish. We will have enough to pay for Ings in the summer, our budget for the summer should not be 10m Ings = £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 The majority goes to a wage bill that is among the highest in european football. Haha is it really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 My sources tell me Adams is very keen to come to Saints but we can only complete the deal if Austin goes' date=' as that way we save a few quid by re-using Charlie's old "CA" training kit. If anyone else leaves instead, we have to start the scouting process from scratch, to find someone else with the same initials.[/quote'] Is this all that our votes for Saints Voice gets us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Haha is it really? The latest info I could find is we are the 8th highest in the premier and I'm sure I read somewhere it's around 60% of turn over so still wouldn't add up , Money disappears somewhere if you ask me this whole need to sell before we can buy is a load of guff especially seeing as we were told the Gao sale was to take us to the next level ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Is this all that our votes for Saints Voice gets us? Despite there being a number of committees on the go, apparently the transfer committee is not one I'm allowed to join. Disappointing. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 The latest info I could find is we are the 8th highest in the premier and I'm sure I read somewhere it's around 60% of turn over so still wouldn't add up , Money disappears somewhere if you ask me this whole need to sell before we can buy is a load of guff especially seeing as we were told the Gao sale was to take us to the next level ! Off the pitch, the club has to be run like any other business, and currently they feel that the squad is too large and the wage bill is too high, so players need to be moved on before bringing in more. I dont think its literally that we cannot afford another penny, they are just trying to balance the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 That's just rubbish. We will have enough to pay for Ings in the summer, our budget for the summer should not be 10m Ings = £20m Yep or £18m and Gabbiadini went for around £8-10m. Saying the money for him has to go towards Ings is just ridiculous IMO, we aren't just buying Ings in the summer or I'd hope not so other money will be available to buy him by then so why can't money produced from a player we've sold this month be used now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Off the pitch, the club has to be run like any other business, and currently they feel that the squad is too large and the wage bill is too high, so players need to be moved on before bringing in more. I dont think its literally that we cannot afford another penny, they are just trying to balance the books. I don't think anyone is against us trying to balance our books but to do it while we are in a relegation fight is a MASSIVE gamble . Sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Yep or £18m and Gabbiadini went for around £8-10m. Saying the money for him has to go towards Ings is just ridiculous IMO, we aren't just buying Ings in the summer or I'd hope not so other money will be available to buy him by then so why can't money produced from a player we've sold this month be used now? And it's not like we will be doing a bank transfer for the full amount on the day he signs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 SSN saying Burnley have 4th bid of £12m rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 According to Alan Nixon, they’ve not bid £12m yet... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 BURNLEY. Offer for Adams is/was 10. Rejected. Walked away. For now. Probably for good today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Gone for Crouch instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Similar players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 31 January, 2019 Share Posted 31 January, 2019 Crouch is bound to score against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 February, 2019 Share Posted 1 February, 2019 Behind a pay-wall but it caught my eye... @MattHughesTimes: Football Notebook: #BCFC could receive second points deduction for refusing to sell Che Adams; Hudson-Odoi unwilling to sign for #CFC with Sarri in charge; #Swansea chairman rejected James sale at 10pm after discovering club wouldn’t get paid til June. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rejected-che-adams-bids-could-cost-birmingham-city-xtd0dbnd8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 1 February, 2019 Share Posted 1 February, 2019 Behind a pay-wall but it caught my eye... @MattHughesTimes: Football Notebook: #BCFC could receive second points deduction for refusing to sell Che Adams; Hudson-Odoi unwilling to sign for #CFC with Sarri in charge; #Swansea chairman rejected James sale at 10pm after discovering club wouldn’t get paid til June. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rejected-che-adams-bids-could-cost-birmingham-city-xtd0dbnd8 You can't force a team to sell a player for less than they value them at ffs ! (Can you ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 2 February, 2019 Share Posted 2 February, 2019 This is the full text: Birmingham City’s decision to reject several bids for the striker Che Adams this week could lead to a second charge of committing an “aggravated breach” of the EFL’s profit and sustainability rules, which would trigger a second points deduction in as many seasons. The Sky Bet Championship club are already facing being docked up to 15 points this season as a sanction for missing the EFL’s spending limits by £7 million over the three seasons from 2015 to 2018, with an independent disciplinary commission due to rule on the case this month. This has led to fears that the team, who are 12th in the table, 16 points off the bottom three, could be dragged into a relegation battle. Ironically, such concerns influenced their reasoning in rejecting offers from Burnley and Southampton for Adams, who has scored 15 league goals this season. This may have been a serious miscalculation, however, as the club club need to raise considerable funds and/or make significant savings by the end of the season in order to comply with the EFL’s rules, with a failure to do so raising the prospect of a double punishment. If it is proved that they rejected formal bids for Adams during the relevant accounting period — there have been reports of four offers of up to £12 million for the 22-year-old — the EFL may deem it to be an aggravated breach for deliberately ignoring the profit and sustainability rules, which could trigger an additional nine-point deduction, which would be applied next season. Birmingham are contesting an aggravated breach charge for their signing last summer of the former Denmark Under-21 international Kristian Pedersen despite being under a transfer embargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 February, 2019 Share Posted 2 February, 2019 This is the full text: Cheers for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 February, 2019 Share Posted 2 February, 2019 This is the full text: ****ed if you do ****ed if you don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 3 February, 2019 Share Posted 3 February, 2019 I don't think anyone is against us trying to balance our books but to do it while we are in a relegation fight is a MASSIVE gamble . Sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. You mean what Cortese did and got roundly critiscised by many on this board despite the success it brought and the vastly increased value in the club Trouble is the gamble has to pay off after recent debacles on transfers can anyone trust this lot to get it right? Best wait for Hasenhuttl to decide on he he wants id trust him over the rest of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 February, 2019 Share Posted 9 February, 2019 Two goals so far for Che, another few million on his price tag. Harlee Dean, once of this parish, has Birmingham's 3rd. I look forward to our attacking recruitment in the summer, survival permitting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2019 Share Posted 9 February, 2019 Two goals so far for Che, another few million on his price tag. Harlee Dean, once of this parish, has Birmingham's 3rd. I look forward to our attacking recruitment in the summer, survival permitting... 3 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 9 February, 2019 Share Posted 9 February, 2019 I don't think anyone is against us trying to balance our books but to do it while we are in a relegation fight is a MASSIVE gamble . Sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. In our Premiership relegation season under the excrable Lowe, we made a £4m+ profit in that January window. History repeating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 February, 2019 Share Posted 9 February, 2019 Can’t afford him now so let’s closed this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 February, 2019 Share Posted 17 February, 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-arsenal-join-race-14010417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 18 February, 2019 Share Posted 18 February, 2019 If they have breached the rules then I think us and burnley should also launch a legal challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 18 February, 2019 Share Posted 18 February, 2019 Can’t afford him now so let’s closed this thread. With up and coming players like Adams, who is 22, the longer you wait the more expensive they become. He's going to cost a lot more in the summer than he would have done in January, especially as our reported interest in him will have raised his profile more. The same applies to Maehle, who is 21.I guess if the club had no money in January and is hoping that player sales in the summer will bring enough in to buy them, we may still get them. But, we're going to have to sell our better players in order to raise that sort of money. As for the club's massive Premier League income, none of that seems to be released for buying players any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 March, 2019 Share Posted 5 March, 2019 I see Che Adams to Southampton stands at #8 in charts of Transfer Whispers with Sky Sports. Not a dead deal yet then. Could be resurrected in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 March, 2019 Share Posted 5 March, 2019 He wasn't for sale. Only a stupid bid would get accepted then. In the summer he will leave then, he knows that and the club know that. He won't be cheap but it'll be more negotiable. I’m not even sure about the stupid bid as Birmingham have sanctions in place from the fa meaning they cannot replace him - not 100% sure but there seemed to be a lot of confusion around what the sanctions actually meant in reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 6 March, 2019 Share Posted 6 March, 2019 With up and coming players like Adams, who is 22, the longer you wait the more expensive they become. That's why Birmingham and Genk didn't sell, they will get more in the summer and get to keep the player for the rest of the season, it's a no brainer. If you read the Maehle interview he wanted to come but believes Genk are after more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 March, 2019 Share Posted 22 March, 2019 Brum deducted 9pts today. They are now 5pts clear of the relegation zone. I'd imagine they will be fine, but have lost their last 4 matches. Next 3 games are WBA / Leeds / Sheff Utd.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 March, 2019 Share Posted 22 March, 2019 That's why Birmingham and Genk didn't sell, they will get more in the summer and get to keep the player for the rest of the season, it's a no brainer. If they had used their brain and sold him... they wouldn't be deducted 9 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 23 March, 2019 Share Posted 23 March, 2019 Thats what happens when you employ Redknapp and zola to an extent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 March, 2019 Share Posted 23 March, 2019 Thats what happens when you employ Redknapp and zola to an extent 7th under Rowett. Tripled their wages since that & fallen steadily ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 March, 2019 Share Posted 23 March, 2019 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 23 March, 2019 Share Posted 23 March, 2019 ... Think i read there wage bill went from 22m to 38m under Redknapp then zola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 24 March, 2019 Share Posted 24 March, 2019 Interesting article today about why nothing is ever Harry's fault: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/23/harry-redknapp-is-playing-a-familiar-tune-to-disown-birminghams-blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 March, 2019 Share Posted 24 March, 2019 Interesting article today about why nothing is ever Harry's fault: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/23/harry-redknapp-is-playing-a-familiar-tune-to-disown-birminghams-blues He is truly is the Boris Johnson of football - hopeless but due to their sound bites, outwardly affable nature they both have plenty of media contacts who always help him land safely out of whatever the situation is. Who else in football would get gigs like I’m a Celebrity and Harry’s game? Ditto, Boris seems to be pretty much running the DT again as his own personal xenophobic platform. Guessing the Barclay Brothers are content to let him do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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