Professor Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 On 27/08/2023 at 07:19, Barsiem said: Calling Ballard an upgrade is ridiculous. He's barely played for the first team. We all hope he will be a great player but he isn't ready to be our main striker yet, hence why players like Mara are being put onto the pitch over him. Try to understand the words “long term” before getting so excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 With their efforts to sign my mate Beto, have Everton now moved on? Similar style of striker, big, powerful target men, so would seem to strange to sign both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chez said: With their efforts to sign my mate Beto, have Everton now moved on? Similar style of striker, big, powerful target men, so would seem to strange to sign both. I guess a lot of it depends on Calvert Lewin and if they think he can last a season without getting injured. Will need some kind of cover I suppose. Maupay hasn't exactly lit up the place, but the same could be said for Adams if he makes the move. He's not an out and out goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 Well he's in the Scotland squad so Championship football isn't hindering him from that. Sign the contract Che! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 36 minutes ago, Chez said: With their efforts to sign my mate Beto, have Everton now moved on? Similar style of striker, big, powerful target men, so would seem to strange to sign both. Not sure Everton are in the mix for him at all now, that door is shut. It's Palace and Bournemouth we need to keep an eye on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Professor said: Try to understand the words “long term” before getting so excited. Nice patronising response.... Pray tell how losing Adams now will help us if the replacement you reference is not yet ready to replace him. Surely in that case you should be advocating keeping him until Ballard is ready, not beforehand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barsiem said: Nice patronising response.... Pray tell how losing Adams now will help us if the replacement you reference is not yet ready to replace him. Surely in that case you should be advocating keeping him until Ballard is ready, not beforehand? So far they've got players in all correct and have improved the squad. This just feels a MASSIVE make or break and we can't get this wrong especially as we've sold Tella. I pray he signs, If he doesn't can always sell him in January if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldandtired Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 I do wonder if, perhaps like AA, he isn’t really at premier league level which perhaps only makes him an afterthought buy for the more successful clubs. Perhaps he doesn’t see the point of going to a club which he thinks might struggle this year. His prem stats aren’t exactly earth shattering. https://www.premierleague.com/players/10905/Ché-Adams/stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 2 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: So far they've got players in all correct and have improved the squad. This just feels a MASSIVE make or break and we can't get this wrong especially as we've sold Tella. I pray he signs, If he doesn't can always sell him in January if needs be. Maybe offer him a 3-year deal with a decent pay rise and add a condition that, if we don't get promoted, he can leave for a realistic fee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 Wolves looking to move for Iheanacho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 9 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Wolves looking to move for Iheanacho. I'm surprised nobody has gone for him so far. I think there is a good player in Iheanacho. And it weakens Leicester if he goes so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 2 hours ago, SNSUN said: I'm surprised nobody has gone for him so far. I think there is a good player in Iheanacho. And it weakens Leicester if he goes so... I'd rather have him over Adams in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 3 hours ago, SNSUN said: I'm surprised nobody has gone for him so far. I think there is a good player in Iheanacho. he hid it well when missing all those chances at SMS last season. He was flying a couple of seasons before. Not sure where/how it went wrong after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 3 hours ago, Chez said: he hid it well when missing all those chances at SMS last season. He was flying a couple of seasons before. Not sure where/how it went wrong after that. I remember his finishing being ridiculous when he broke through at Man City! I guess part of it is the difference made by playing in a world class team vs a poor team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 I recall thinking he'd have been good for us when he joined Leicester. Then... very little from him it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 Its interesting that he didn't train last week, didn't play on the Saturday and yet he is still yet to move? Would have expected it to be imminent in the same way that tella's was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 28 August, 2023 Share Posted 28 August, 2023 All gone a bit quiet on the Che front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 8 hours ago, Saint_Ash said: All gone a bit quiet on the Che front. Loads of teams he coukd join before the end of the window: Palace Bournemouth Brentford Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 What ever is going to happen with Che it needs to be sorted soon, if he moves we can get on and replace but here`s hoping he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 I've been a big critic of Che over the past few years. His finishing has been appalling and imo, is a big part in why we find ourselves in the championship. However, he's clearly a cut above the championship, as already shown and I genuinely think he suits Martin's style down to the ground. Feels like he's playing with confidence at the minute and keeping him would leave me confident of challenging the top 2. Had he started against Norwich, I think we'd be 4/4 right now, such is the impact he has when he comes on. I have my doubts if he's the answer longer term, but I'm desperate for him to stay this season. We're not getting anyone in who is of the same quality as him for £12-£15m or whatever we sell him for. If Stephens is out for a while, I wonder if the prospect of a season with the armband will encourage him to sign a new deal..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dman said: I've been a big critic of Che over the past few years. His finishing has been appalling and imo, is a big part in why we find ourselves in the championship. However, he's clearly a cut above the championship, as already shown and I genuinely think he suits Martin's style down to the ground. Feels like he's playing with confidence at the minute and keeping him would leave me confident of challenging the top 2. Had he started against Norwich, I think we'd be 4/4 right now, such is the impact he has when he comes on. I have my doubts if he's the answer longer term, but I'm desperate for him to stay this season. We're not getting anyone in who is of the same quality as him for £12-£15m or whatever we sell him for. If Stephens is out for a while, I wonder if the prospect of a season with the armband will encourage him to sign a new deal..? Interesting way of solving the issue and the romantic in me hopes that would sway him too. We all realise though that is the ££ and length of contract on offer that’s the main thing. And on that subject I think, only IMO that whilst the weekly money we are offering might be “alright” we are probably not offering another 3 years. And that’s down to his age and, frankly, previous goal scoring record in the EPL. IF Palace Boscombe or Fulham or a n other offer him three years at EPL wages I think he would be mad not to take it. I think Saints would, on balance, be a bit foolhardy to offer it- so Captain or no I think he’s leaving - if a suitable offer comes in that is. No desperate £15m cash last minute offers accepted for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Quite funny to see his transfer moving as slow as his football brain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 wasn't he linked with a move last summer, started well, and then ended up with 5 goals? i know PL > Championship, but am not convinced if he stays he scores 25 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 That's Everton out of the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. Good. If he stays and no one else leaves we will do fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Surely too late for him to leave now? Unless we have a ready-made replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. Sounds like a good bye round, to be honest. Why wasn't he training? Why is he in the right frame of mind to play golf but not for us? His agent is dotting the I's and crossing the T's whilst he finishes his round then heads down to Bournemouth for the medical. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. IG certainly comes in handy for a gentle bit of stalking 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 I think it's better to work on the assumption that they are all leaving before Friday and concentrate on getting the best replacements possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Everton are a joke. A £25m transfer with no money paid until the next financial year. Why would we even dream of letting Sulemana go on loan. Although we needed a centre back by taking Holgate we relieved Everton of a salary burden they can't afford. In my view the whole transfer market is rediculous. The prices being paid because of instalments and lengthy contracts are distorted. If the clubs had to pay the whole fee up front it would reduce prices dramatically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. How many hooks and slices did he manage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, derry said: Everton are a joke. A £25m transfer with no money paid until the next financial year. Why would we even dream of letting Sulemana go on loan. Although we needed a centre back by taking Holgate we relieved Everton of a salary burden they can't afford. In my view the whole transfer market is rediculous. The prices being paid because of instalments and lengthy contracts are distorted. If the clubs had to pay the whole fee up front it would reduce prices dramatically. Deferring the entire payment until the following year is insanity. If they go down they will be beyond screwed. Expect they will stay up though... Edited 29 August, 2023 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. 5 ball? Terrible golf etiquette 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 23 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Deferring the entire payment until the fopwong year is insanity. If they go down they will be beyond screwed. Expect they will stay up though... They've got lucky with some of the rubbish teams in it this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. Don't these guys ever do any training? 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 3 hours ago, saintant said: Don't these guys ever do any training? 🙂 Pretty cushdy life innit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 22 hours ago, Wimborne_saint said: Che was playing golf with A.Armstrong, S.Armstrong, Bednarek and Charles today. So doesn't look like any move away is massively advanced. I wonder what course, one in the forest direction clearly he's trying it out before move to Bournemouth. If it was anything north of Winchester then it'll be Palace, and anything east he's off to Brighton. Only way to know for sure he's staying is he was halfway round the muni course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 21 hours ago, saintant said: Don't these guys ever do any training? 🙂 Yep in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: Yep in the morning. Bring back double shifts. Made us one of the fittest sides under Poch. Too much moddycoddling going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said: I wonder what course, one in the forest direction clearly he's trying it out before move to Bournemouth. If it was anything north of Winchester then it'll be Palace, and anything east he's off to Brighton. Only way to know for sure he's staying is he was halfway round the muni course. I heard he was Wandering around the course. And saying he was Hungry. Hungry like a Wolf. He's going to Wolves he's going to Wolves I tells ya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Spoken to my source and all I'm saying is he made an Eagle on the 4th. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 My source said Che still hadn't popped his Cherry. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 My source said he scuffed his shot off the tee and had to play the rest of the hole with his wee willy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 On 29/08/2023 at 11:05, Toussaint said: Good. If he stays and no one else leaves we will do fine. Bunch of nobbers playing as a fivesome then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, notnowcato said: My source said he scuffed his shot off the tee and had to play the rest of the hole with his wee willy out. great at getting onto the green by 4 putts every hole. Make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 My sources have suggested that Ché's tienda de ropa favorita is All Saints. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 (edited) Golf & football team play-on-words you say? Something something something... Irons... something something (with Ings coming on loan in the opposite direction, of course... ) Edited 30 August, 2023 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 So according to Saints Extra Martin states there are 3 scenarios Che stays. Che leaves and we replace him. Che stays and we sign someone else . I can think of another Che leaves and we don’t replace him . I’d be shocked if Che stays and we sign another striker , I’d wouldn’t be shocked if Che left and we didn’t sign a replacement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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