egg Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 So what did you think of the following signings.... Mane VVD Wanyama Pelle Tadic Hojberg Cedric Gunn It’s the championship. Nothing else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk WTF has any of that got to do with Adams, and my view that having a top price in mind and sticking to it?! You think he's worth paying whatever Brum want, I don't. I appreciate your opinion, but I don't agree with you. I have no interest in expressing my opinion on a random bunch of signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 We don't know which are our top targets, second choices and which are just agent talk in the media. According to the media we had a bid turned down for £25m for Promes, who was then sold for £17m six months later, so something is obviously not as it seems. Carrillo is a completely different player and just some bizarre attempt to appease a manager who should have been sacked. Moi was a replacement for Tadic and as far as I am aware our first choice. We got Armstrong instead of Maddison. I thought Elynouusi was the back up after Maddison chose to go to Leicester. Either way a pretty poor substitute for our first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 WTF has any of that got to do with Adams, and my view that having a top price in mind and sticking to it?! You think he's worth paying whatever Brum want, I don't. I appreciate your opinion, but I don't agree with you. I have no interest in expressing my opinion on a random bunch of signings. Your point was that Adams is untested and unproven in the Premier League. Cabbage's point is that all those signings were also unproven in the Premier League. Turned out alright didn't they? Some more so than others clearly, but all performed to a decent standard more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Your point was that Adams is untested and unproven in the Premier League. Cabbage's point is that all those signings were also unproven in the Premier League. Turned out alright didn't they? Some more so than others clearly, but all performed to a decent standard more often than not. I don't seriously think that any fan could argue that our transfers over recent years have been more successful than not overall, and our signings have mostly been from outside the Premier league. My comments, however, relate to Adams and Adams only. He's unproven outside the Premier league and I repeat and clarify my point - I agree with the clubs reported stance that spending a max of 14m seems sensible for a division 2 player. Others may feel differently, but seeking to justify the case to give Brum whatever they want cos Mane exceeded expectations (whilst ignoring, for example, Moi) is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 I thought Elynouusi was the back up after Maddison chose to go to Leicester. Either way a pretty poor substitute for our first choice. Not sure how a winger can be back up to a no 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 I don't seriously think that any fan could argue that our transfers over recent years have been more successful than not overall, and our signings have mostly been from outside the Premier league. My comments, however, relate to Adams and Adams only. He's unproven outside the Premier league and I repeat and clarify my point - I agree with the clubs reported stance that spending a max of 14m seems sensible for a division 2 player. Others may feel differently, but seeking to justify the case to give Brum whatever they want cos Mane exceeded expectations (whilst ignoring, for example, Moi) is ridiculous. I think we are probably slightly under the value for Adams maybe should be about 16-18m considering the prices other championship players are going for.. think we are trying to play with brum thinking they are weak.. Problem is it is probably going to be hard for us to sign anyone even as proven as Adams For 14m Maupay seems to have a 20m valuation. I wonder if we actually rate Adams higher then the likes of augustin or whether it's more that we think Adams is in our price range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 I think we are probably slightly under the value for Adams maybe should be about 16-18m considering the prices other championship players are going for.. think we are trying to play with brum thinking they are weak.. Problem is it is probably going to be hard for us to sign anyone even as proven as Adams For 14m Maupay seems to have a 20m valuation. I wonder if we actually rate Adams higher then the likes of augustin or whether it's more that we think Adams is in our price range I’m going to take issue with you here. Do you rate Adams higher than the £15m Man Utd paid for James? Has anyone actually stumped up £20m for Maupay? I imagine there are loads of players who we rate more highly than Adams, who are also not in our price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Bit concerning that we don't seem to be able to spend £14m or maybe that we are unwilling. Very much hope that a CB is a concurrent push. Any more rumours on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Still think we'll get this one over the line eventually. Given Ralph has already highlighted we have limited funds but the need for 4 or 5 incomings, I'm sure we'll have allocated spend to each area we need improvement and we can't deviate too far from this (unless we shift some of the deadwood or are prepared to released someone we'd rather not). A K,billy/Guan smiley/thumbs up/cryptic post wouldn't go amiss, though, to indicate something is imminent (if/when it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 When is the start of our pre-season training? The fitness tests etc? I see Birmingham posted that they are already back and undergoing fitness (not surprisingly as they're in the Championship so start earlier) so maybe if he's undergoing fitness tests/training with them, it's less important to get him in for our fitness tests at the start of pre-season training, hence why we've put the offer on the table and backed away... ...does that make sense? Bit convoluted but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 When is the start of our pre-season training? The fitness tests etc? I see Birmingham posted that they are already back and undergoing fitness (not surprisingly as they're in the Championship so start earlier) so maybe if he's undergoing fitness tests/training with them, it's less important to get him in for our fitness tests at the start of pre-season training, hence why we've put the offer on the table and backed away... ...does that make sense? Bit convoluted but still... Players back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 I’m going to take issue with you here. Do you rate Adams higher than the £15m Man Utd paid for James? Has anyone actually stumped up £20m for Maupay? I imagine there are loads of players who we rate more highly than Adams, who are also not in our price range. Tbh haven't watched enough championship football to have a concrete opinion on this, Adams was in the nominations for championship player of the season though and has better stats then James so guess he had a better season not saying that means he has higher potential. But still Adams is young English hit 22 goals I'd say that makes him one of the top players in the championship and also has the pace and physique to look like he can step up.. Maddison went for 22 m also so why do u think Adams should be so cheap in comparison ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Tbh haven't watched enough championship football to have a concrete opinion on this, Adams was in the nominations for championship player of the season though and has better stats then James so guess he had a better season not saying that means he has higher potential. But still Adams is young English hit 22 goals I'd say that makes him one of the top players in the championship and also has the pace and physique to look like he can step up.. Maddison went for 22 m also so why do u think Adams should be so cheap in comparison ? Maybe Adams isn’t as good - although they play in different positions so comparison is difficult. Maybe Norwich didn’t need to sell and Birmingham do. In short who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Really hope this deal happens, so confident that he'll be a success in the prem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 £14m turned down. Club "considering alternative options", according to Jeremy Wilson. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Just classic cat and mouse IMO. We made a low opening offer, then increased it. Birmingham trying to get all they can from us, so we say we are walking away. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us linked with other forwards to try and make Birmingham feel they will lose out and then come calling to agree a final deal. They will sell as they need the cash and the player will want PL football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 £14m turned down. Club "considering alternative options"' date=' according to Jeremy Wilson. :-/[/quote'] No. Copy pasting exact words : "This has not been accepted" They haven't accepted it YET, maybe they will, maybe they won't. But they haven't said NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Chexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Bump it up to 16 and get it done quickly I can see another team getting him if we don't stop fking about.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Really hope this deal happens, so confident that he'll be a success in the prem!Why are you "so confident" out of interest? Shane long looked decent in the championship Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Bump it up to 16 and get it done quickly I can see another team getting him if we don't stop fking about.... What makes you sure they would accept 16? They are not in a hurry to sell and Bidding war suits them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Just classic cat and mouse IMO. We made a low opening offer, then increased it. Birmingham trying to get all they can from us, so we say we are walking away. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us linked with other forwards to try and make Birmingham feel they will lose out and then come calling to agree a final deal. They will sell as they need the cash and the player will want PL football Not necessarily involving us though in reaching those targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Chexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Can be good to walk away in negotiations and presumably pressure will be applied from Adams' side. That said, £14m does seem light in todays market and if he is genuinely a top target then it seems a shame to not get him, if that is what happens. If Brentford value Maupay at £20m... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Heard today our bid has been accepted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Players are only worth what other clubs are prepared to pay for them. We could value Gallagher at £10M, doesn’t mean we would get £10M from a club for him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Heard today our bid has been accepted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Good news. Who from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Heard today our bid has been accepted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Promising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Good news. Who from? Birmingham City if I was a betting man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Good news. Who from? JamesMcCann74 on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 JamesMcCann74 on Twitter Ta. Here it is. I'm getting a lot of questions from Southampton fans regarding Che Adams, Southampton have had a bid accepted, expect news in media in next few days Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Another pretend football agent no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Another pretend football agent no doubt.Seems to have a good number of followers and got a couple of stories right recently like Clarke to Brighton, aribo to rangers etc. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Seems to have a good number of followers and got a couple of stories right recently like Clarke to Brighton, aribo to rangers etc. Sent from my G3311 using TapatalkPeople don't still fall for these obvious fakes do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Heard today our bid has been accepted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I heard Skacel has signed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Seems to have a good number of followers and got a couple of stories right recently like Clarke to Brighton, aribo to rangers etc. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Did anything he say predate stories already in the media? If all he has done is say a player already linked to a club will join then tgat us not good evidence of him being ITK. If he has been the first anywhere to link a player to a club and the player then joins then that starts to build credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Did anything he say predate stories already in the media? If all he has done is say a player already linked to a club will join then tgat us not good evidence of him being ITK. If he has been the first anywhere to link a player to a club and the player then joins then that starts to build credibility. Don't know to be honest with you, only had a quick flick through the twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Ta. Here it is. I'm getting a lot of questions from Southampton fans regarding Che Adams, Southampton have had a bid accepted, expect news in media in next few days Sent from my iPad using TapatalkHe made the same post, give or take, about us having an offer accepted, a week ago. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 People don't still fall for these obvious fakes do they? Evidently they still do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Another pretend football agent no doubt. I'm not sure how any agent can be semi-retired. You've either got clients or you haven't, surely? More to the point, I don't see why a 'semi-retired agent' would have the inside track on all the major transfers in British football or what he gains from posting everything he hears on twitter. Seems like just another sad little man after some attention to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Seems like just another sad little man after some attention to me. Perfect source for here then - shares that trait with a number of our regular posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Perfect source for here then - shares that trait with a number of our regular posters. Beat me to it - our resident wannabe ITK springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 If James McCann is a semi retired agent... then be still gas clients. However there is no James McCann on the list of licensed agents on the FA website! He is a bull****ter http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/intermediaries/fa-registered-intermediaries-list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Is there any genuine agent on twitter who posts this sort of ****e? I suspect not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Real Betis supposedly preparing a £10m bid for Origi. If he’s available for that sort of cash we should have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 ^ 10 million we would be mad not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Real Betis supposedly preparing a £10m bid for Origi. If he’s available for that sort of cash we should have a look. Saw that this morning too, really cant see him moving at all let alone 10m!! In this market thats a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Liverpool will want atleast £20m I would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Maybe they're willing to sell at a lower value to a non-Premier League team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 He's really not a very good striker, he scored 6 in 31 for Wolfsburg the season before last and I'm pretty sure the only reason he was still at Liverpool last season is that they were struggling for takers. He's just happened to be in the right place at the right time for a couple of high profile goals, but we are talking about a guy who has pretty much a 1 in 5 career record who has never scored more than 8 league goals in a season. He also has a wholly unimpressive international record of 3 in 26, despite playing for a Belgium team with the likes of De Bruyne and Hazard providing him chances. No thanks, I'd much rather pay a bit more for Adams who is younger and has already scored more career goals than Origi, albeit at a lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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