Joe Rothwell

[SaintsFan86]

 

 

[trousers]

Who?

[Convict Colony]

can he play right wing

[SaintsFan86]

Joe's a CM, who can also play DM.

Seems a very strange loan deal, always good to add depth too.

[Colinjb]

Defensive midfield cover it seems. Never heard of him either.

[Convict Colony]

seems to have wheels - a bit of pace in midfield

 

[revolution saint]

Seems like a decent player from the video although it's not a position we lack for in numbers.  Decent skill on the ball and at times looks like a fat Lallana.

[Matty's Caddy]

Doesn’t look very defensive 😂. Looks like a younger Stuart Armstrong with less goal threat,
but what do I know?

[Barsiem]

That's 5 loans we have, and I believe we can only have 5 in a match day squad, so this may affect moves for Brooks et al. 

We can get more loan players in of course, but at least 1 wouldn't be able to be picked.  Guess Holgate may make way in that case?

[Harry_SFC]

6 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said:

Doesn’t look very defensive 😂. Looks like a younger Stuart Armstrong with less goal threat,
but what do I know?

Got 10 assists last time he played in the Championship. 

[SaintsFan86]

Wonder if Rothwell coming here also persuades Brooks further. 

He'll have a mate here for his potential time at the club.

[beatlesaint]

6 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

That's 5 loans we have, and I believe we can only have 5 in a match day squad, so this may affect moves for Brooks et al. 

We can get more loan players in of course, but at least 1 wouldn't be able to be picked.  Guess Holgate may make way in that case?

Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ?

Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. 

Edited 14 January, 2024 by beatlesaint

[hypochondriac]

Just had a look on the Blackburn forum. A few of them putting him in their best 11 since 2012 noting his skill and pace. Said he played on the right before moving more central. 

[trousers]

Purely speculating, of course, but maybe Downes' underlying health issue is more problematic than first thought and thus we need an experienced player to step into Downes' boots whenever he's unable to play? #thinkingoutloud

(No idea if he's a similar player to Downes though)

Edited 14 January, 2024 by trousers

[Long Shot]

Not impressed with him at all. I hope this is bogus info. Much prefer Brooks

[ErwinK1961]

2 minutes ago, Long Shot said:

Not impressed with him at all. I hope this is bogus info. Much prefer Brooks

Well colour me surprised.

[ErwinK1961]

9 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ?

Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. 

Or… are we making Frasers deal permanent…?

[Lighthouse]

I guess it’s possible Stu is off, given his contract situation. Seems somewhat unnecessary if not, with our wage bill already being so high.

[Bad Wolf]

Strange one. Someone must be off. Stu being cashed in on before he leaves for nothing? Downes being recalled? Charles going out on loan?

Edited 14 January, 2024 by Bad Wolf

[Markyruk]

Must be cover for someone leaving, but who is it? From the looks at his “show reel” on You Tube my guess would be Stu.

 

[Block41 Saint]

3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Strange one. Someone must be off. Stu being cashed in on before he leaves for nothing? Downes being recalled? Charles going out on loan?

Zero chance. He cost big money for this level. 

It's probably competition for Stu. 

[SNSUN]

17 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ?

Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. 

No disrespect to Shea but he's young and inexperienced at CB. Going in to the latter part of the season with only 3 specialist CBs (one who has just returned from a long injury) would worry me. Additionally we have our back up RB Bree playing LB (when he's not injured) so Holgate provides us with a back up RB option. Personally I hope he stays.

It does make another loan player tricky though - maybe we can sign Brooks on a permanent?

[Toussaint]

Stu maybe off. I did post elsewhere that he is still on Premier league wages which is an issue for the club.

[Barsiem]

I'd be surprised if we're selling Stu.  He's over 30 and less than 6 months on his contract so unlikely to get much money for him.  We're better off keeping him and letting him go for nothing imo given how class he's been this season.

I guess if he's pushing to leave it makes sense.

[Bad Wolf]

3 minutes ago, Block41 Saint said:

Zero chance. He cost big money for this level. 

It's probably competition for Stu. 

I know but he isn't the finished package and surely he'll be better off starting every week than coming off the bench for 10 minutes every game? Clearly a brilliant talent so if he can play more games, it'll only bode well for us.

[hypochondriac]

Worth a read. Certainly changes opinions from the start of the thread to the end. 

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/34579-joe-rothwell-a-myth-or-a-prospect/page/5/#comments

[ErwinK1961]

Maybe Charlie is off, someone willing to offer sizeable cash and he doesn’t really play much anymore?

[hypochondriac]

Sounds like he linked up well with Armstrong too. 

[trousers]

How about this hair-brained theory?

SFC to AFCB: can we have Brooks on loan please?

AFCB: yes, but only if we can have Stu Armstrong in return

SFC: ok, but we'll need someone else to replace Stu. Got anyone who might fit the bill?

AFCB: how about Joe Rothwell?

SFC: ok, deal

(Yeah, I know, load of old tosh from Trousers as per usual)

Edited 14 January, 2024 by trousers

[CSA96]

I have a mate involved at Blackburn, so sent him a text earlier for his opinion

Loved watching Joe for us. An amazing dribbler and possibly quicker with the ball than without it. Very exciting player and big mates with Arma, so no surprise with this move. You'll really enjoy watching him play.

[HarvSFC]

Interesting one, another that's came from nowhere. Don't know too much about him, but think he was part of the exciting Blackburn team when they wouldn't draw matches. I guess we could and my preference would be to upgrade on Smallbone in the centre of the pitch, rather than an S. Armstrong, or Downes fill in. But I thought we'd look to replace Smallbone in the Premier League, as he does a job in this league.

Aside from Stewart, due to injury we didn't do too badly with recruitment in the summer. Manning's looked good in recent games and Holgate was always signed to be a backup, so I suppose we trust the process.

 

[Paulwantsapint81]

Stu to MLS or Oil league?

[Wade Garrett]

Looks pretty decent.  Wouldn’t want to lose Stu though.

[Maggie May]

42 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

I have a mate involved at Blackburn, so sent him a text earlier for his opinion

Loved watching Joe for us. An amazing dribbler and possibly quicker with the ball than without it. Very exciting player and big mates with Arma, so no surprise with this move. You'll really enjoy watching him play.

Sounds like he could be our Steve De Ridder for the promotion push.

[Badger]

Noticed he was an unused sub in their cup game at QPR.  Presume he’s not cup tied having not made it onto the pitch. 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Wonder if Rothwell coming here also persuades Brooks further. 

He'll have a mate here for his potential time at the club.

They’re coming from Bournemouth not Brazil, Ecuador or Latvia so won’t need to uproot or face a cultural change*.

Hardly a move where a player will need a mate to settle. 

* less blue rinses in the population of Southampton though. 

[Fabrice29]

ignore

Edited 14 January, 2024 by Fabrice29

[Appy]

2 hours ago, trousers said:

Purely speculating, of course, but maybe Downes' underlying health issue is more problematic than first thought and thus we need an experienced player to step into Downes' boots whenever he's unable to play? #thinkingoutloud

(No idea if he's a similar player to Downes though)

He’s not similar to Downes, far more attacking. 

[Turkish]

45 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Sounds like he could be our Steve De Ridder for the promotion push.

Steve De Ridder didn’t help our promotion push 

[Turkish]

Lots of chatter this came from no where.  I think you’ll find that isn’t strictly true 😇

[Badger]

Just now, Turkish said:

Steve De Ridder didn’t help our promotion push 

Memorable for his goal and Reading though.
And the ‘steeeeeeeve’ chant. Not sure Jooooooooe will live up to that.  

[trousers]

21 minutes ago, Appy said:

He’s not similar to Downes, far more attacking. 

Fair enough. Someone needs to update his Wikipedia entry in that case...

 

[Appy]

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Fair enough. Someone needs to update his Wikipedia entry in that case...

 

Far more attacking than Downes means he shoots to be fair. 

[Sarisbury Saint]

2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Stu maybe off. I did post elsewhere that he is still on Premier league wages which is an issue for the club.

But we’ve only got to pay premiership wages for a few months, by which time his contract would have ended or we could be back in the Premier League anyway.

Stu is important to our chances of promotion so it would be madness to offload him on that basis.

[Highfield Saint]

Or an Aribo replacement?

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Highfield Saint said:

Or an Aribo replacement?

why?

[Highfield Saint]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

why?

I’m just joining in the speculation. Who knows what offers are on the table?

 

or maybe Edozie injury is worse than we’ve been told?

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Highfield Saint said:

I’m just joining in the speculation. Who knows what offers are on the table?

 

or maybe Edozie injury is worse than we’ve been told?

or he is just another player...Martin makes the point (a few times) that although we have a strong squad, it is small

[StrangelyBrown]

Perhaps he's competition for Smallbone?

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Appy said:

Far more attacking than Downes means he shoots to be fair. 

His shooting stats for the last couple of seasons are actually slightly worse than Downes' stats so far for this season, albeit in different divisions of course. When he was last in the championship, his shooting stats were indeed far superior to Downes. I guess that means that Bournemouth have used him in a completely different role to the way Blackburn did.

 

Flynn Downes this season so far at Saints:

 

Joe Rothwell's last two seasons (at Bournemouth):

 

Joe Rothwell's most recent season in the championship, at Blackburn:

Edited 14 January, 2024 by trousers