SaintsFan86 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Who? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 can he play right wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 Joe's a CM, who can also play DM. Seems a very strange loan deal, always good to add depth too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Defensive midfield cover it seems. Never heard of him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 seems to have wheels - a bit of pace in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Seems like a decent player from the video although it's not a position we lack for in numbers. Decent skill on the ball and at times looks like a fat Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Doesn’t look very defensive 😂. Looks like a younger Stuart Armstrong with less goal threat, but what do I know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 That's 5 loans we have, and I believe we can only have 5 in a match day squad, so this may affect moves for Brooks et al. We can get more loan players in of course, but at least 1 wouldn't be able to be picked. Guess Holgate may make way in that case? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said: Doesn’t look very defensive 😂. Looks like a younger Stuart Armstrong with less goal threat, but what do I know? Got 10 assists last time he played in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 Wonder if Rothwell coming here also persuades Brooks further. He'll have a mate here for his potential time at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Barsiem said: That's 5 loans we have, and I believe we can only have 5 in a match day squad, so this may affect moves for Brooks et al. We can get more loan players in of course, but at least 1 wouldn't be able to be picked. Guess Holgate may make way in that case? Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ? Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. Edited January 14 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just had a look on the Blackburn forum. A few of them putting him in their best 11 since 2012 noting his skill and pace. Said he played on the right before moving more central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Purely speculating, of course, but maybe Downes' underlying health issue is more problematic than first thought and thus we need an experienced player to step into Downes' boots whenever he's unable to play? #thinkingoutloud (No idea if he's a similar player to Downes though) Edited January 14 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Not impressed with him at all. I hope this is bogus info. Much prefer Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Long Shot said: Not impressed with him at all. I hope this is bogus info. Much prefer Brooks Well colour me surprised. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ? Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. Or… are we making Frasers deal permanent…? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I guess it’s possible Stu is off, given his contract situation. Seems somewhat unnecessary if not, with our wage bill already being so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Strange one. Someone must be off. Stu being cashed in on before he leaves for nothing? Downes being recalled? Charles going out on loan? Edited January 14 by Bad Wolf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyruk Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Must be cover for someone leaving, but who is it? From the looks at his “show reel” on You Tube my guess would be Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Strange one. Someone must be off. Stu being cashed in on before he leaves for nothing? Downes being recalled? Charles going out on loan? Zero chance. He cost big money for this level. It's probably competition for Stu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 17 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Wonder if this means Holgate will indeed return to Everton and Shea Charles will act as 4th CB cover if required ? Barring injury there is no way THB, Downes or Fraser arent in the match day squad. If Rothwell comes in and another loan that'll be the 5. No disrespect to Shea but he's young and inexperienced at CB. Going in to the latter part of the season with only 3 specialist CBs (one who has just returned from a long injury) would worry me. Additionally we have our back up RB Bree playing LB (when he's not injured) so Holgate provides us with a back up RB option. Personally I hope he stays. It does make another loan player tricky though - maybe we can sign Brooks on a permanent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Stu maybe off. I did post elsewhere that he is still on Premier league wages which is an issue for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I'd be surprised if we're selling Stu. He's over 30 and less than 6 months on his contract so unlikely to get much money for him. We're better off keeping him and letting him go for nothing imo given how class he's been this season. I guess if he's pushing to leave it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, Block41 Saint said: Zero chance. He cost big money for this level. It's probably competition for Stu. I know but he isn't the finished package and surely he'll be better off starting every week than coming off the bench for 10 minutes every game? Clearly a brilliant talent so if he can play more games, it'll only bode well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Worth a read. Certainly changes opinions from the start of the thread to the end. https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/34579-joe-rothwell-a-myth-or-a-prospect/page/5/#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Maybe Charlie is off, someone willing to offer sizeable cash and he doesn’t really play much anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Sounds like he linked up well with Armstrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) How about this hair-brained theory? SFC to AFCB: can we have Brooks on loan please? AFCB: yes, but only if we can have Stu Armstrong in return SFC: ok, but we'll need someone else to replace Stu. Got anyone who might fit the bill? AFCB: how about Joe Rothwell? SFC: ok, deal (Yeah, I know, load of old tosh from Trousers as per usual) Edited January 14 by trousers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I have a mate involved at Blackburn, so sent him a text earlier for his opinion Loved watching Joe for us. An amazing dribbler and possibly quicker with the ball than without it. Very exciting player and big mates with Arma, so no surprise with this move. You'll really enjoy watching him play. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Interesting one, another that's came from nowhere. Don't know too much about him, but think he was part of the exciting Blackburn team when they wouldn't draw matches. I guess we could and my preference would be to upgrade on Smallbone in the centre of the pitch, rather than an S. Armstrong, or Downes fill in. But I thought we'd look to replace Smallbone in the Premier League, as he does a job in this league. Aside from Stewart, due to injury we didn't do too badly with recruitment in the summer. Manning's looked good in recent games and Holgate was always signed to be a backup, so I suppose we trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Stu to MLS or Oil league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Looks pretty decent. Wouldn’t want to lose Stu though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 42 minutes ago, CSA96 said: I have a mate involved at Blackburn, so sent him a text earlier for his opinion Loved watching Joe for us. An amazing dribbler and possibly quicker with the ball than without it. Very exciting player and big mates with Arma, so no surprise with this move. You'll really enjoy watching him play. Sounds like he could be our Steve De Ridder for the promotion push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Noticed he was an unused sub in their cup game at QPR. Presume he’s not cup tied having not made it onto the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said: Wonder if Rothwell coming here also persuades Brooks further. He'll have a mate here for his potential time at the club. They’re coming from Bournemouth not Brazil, Ecuador or Latvia so won’t need to uproot or face a cultural change*. Hardly a move where a player will need a mate to settle. * less blue rinses in the population of Southampton though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) ignore Edited January 14 by Fabrice29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, trousers said: Purely speculating, of course, but maybe Downes' underlying health issue is more problematic than first thought and thus we need an experienced player to step into Downes' boots whenever he's unable to play? #thinkingoutloud (No idea if he's a similar player to Downes though) He’s not similar to Downes, far more attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 45 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Sounds like he could be our Steve De Ridder for the promotion push. Steve De Ridder didn’t help our promotion push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Lots of chatter this came from no where. I think you’ll find that isn’t strictly true 😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, Turkish said: Steve De Ridder didn’t help our promotion push Memorable for his goal and Reading though. And the ‘steeeeeeeve’ chant. Not sure Jooooooooe will live up to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 21 minutes ago, Appy said: He’s not similar to Downes, far more attacking. Fair enough. Someone needs to update his Wikipedia entry in that case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, trousers said: Fair enough. Someone needs to update his Wikipedia entry in that case... Far more attacking than Downes means he shoots to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Toussaint said: Stu maybe off. I did post elsewhere that he is still on Premier league wages which is an issue for the club. But we’ve only got to pay premiership wages for a few months, by which time his contract would have ended or we could be back in the Premier League anyway. Stu is important to our chances of promotion so it would be madness to offload him on that basis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Or an Aribo replacement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Highfield Saint said: Or an Aribo replacement? why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: why? I’m just joining in the speculation. Who knows what offers are on the table? or maybe Edozie injury is worse than we’ve been told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, Highfield Saint said: I’m just joining in the speculation. Who knows what offers are on the table? or maybe Edozie injury is worse than we’ve been told? or he is just another player...Martin makes the point (a few times) that although we have a strong squad, it is small 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Perhaps he's competition for Smallbone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Appy said: Far more attacking than Downes means he shoots to be fair. His shooting stats for the last couple of seasons are actually slightly worse than Downes' stats so far for this season, albeit in different divisions of course. When he was last in the championship, his shooting stats were indeed far superior to Downes. I guess that means that Bournemouth have used him in a completely different role to the way Blackburn did. Flynn Downes this season so far at Saints: Joe Rothwell's last two seasons (at Bournemouth): Joe Rothwell's most recent season in the championship, at Blackburn: Edited January 14 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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