SotonianWill Posted 7 January, 2023 Share Posted 7 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Suhari said: So can only play for 15 or 20 minutes according to Jones. Wonder what type of injury this is? Could be a condition related to his covid infection maybe? don’t ask le tiss 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 7 January, 2023 Share Posted 7 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Suhari said: So can only play for 15 or 20 minutes according to Jones. Wonder what type of injury this is? Could be a condition related to his covid infection maybe? Calf isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 8 January, 2023 Share Posted 8 January, 2023 August 2018 premier league debut, since then 10 assists. We need much better to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 January, 2023 Share Posted 8 January, 2023 10 hours ago, West end Saints said: August 2018 premier league debut, since then 10 assists. We need much better to survive Stats like that are bollox when there's nobody capable of putting the ball away. What's the stat for chances he's put on a plate for people to miss? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 January, 2023 Share Posted 8 January, 2023 16 hours ago, West end Saints said: August 2018 premier league debut, since then 10 assists. We need much better to survive 10 assists for Che Adams to score is probably the equivalent of 150 assists for any other Premier League striker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 A class act. Very odd that the management cannot see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said: A class act. Very odd that the management cannot see this. A glass act? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 This is the embodiment of the long-lasting Saints tradition of pining for players who aren't playing, then when they start playing again it transpires that they aren't the messiah. He's a decent player, that is all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: This is the embodiment of the long-lasting Saints tradition of pining for players who aren't playing, then when they start playing again it transpires that they aren't the messiah. He's a decent player, that is all. He was our best goal threat in midfield by a long way before he got Covid. Hasn't been the same since. Edited 9 January, 2023 by southamptonfc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, southamptonfc said: He was our best goal threat in midfield by a long way before he got Covid. Hasn't been the same since. But come on, that was well over two years ago. We looked a much better team all around then, as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: But come on, that was well over two years ago. We looked a much better team all around then, as well. His movement, assists and goals was one of the main reasons why we were better in a team which otherwise had very few goals from midfield. Being forced to replace him by Djenpo or Walcott clearly hurt the team and the number of goals we scored. Edited 9 January, 2023 by southamptonfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 NJ saying he has a pain problem so rationing his time. Elsewhere on here alleged ITK saying playing with a hip problem. Which makes some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 15 minutes ago, southamptonfc said: His movement, assists and goals was one of the main reasons why we were better in a team which otherwise had very few goals from midfield. Being forced to replace him by Djenpo or Walcott clearly hurt the team and the number of goals we scored. I think there was a period where we only won if SA was playing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 I don’t think he’s particularly special, but he’s the only member of the entire squad with any creativity and an attacking football brain, other than possibly KWP and Tino. The rest have nothing between them aside Edozie dribbling with little effect so far, and JWP on direct free kicks. I honestly can’t think of any other scenarios where we create anything for ourselves. We get the odd chance through pressing and opposition mistakes (Palace case in point); we used to offer bits out wide and KWP still does very occasionally. I don’t think Stuart is our saviour and in the same league as de Bruyne … but at least he does something, or at least tries. Maybe he is managing pain, but if he can barely manage 10 minutes (forest) his injury needs sorting properly. It’s pointless otherwise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) We've not been blessed with superstars in this team for many years, so anyone half decent is likely to be somewhat pined for when they're not playing. Armstrong is half-decent, no more than that. His lung busting runs and threat from deep were fun to watch, but it didn't really happen enough if we're totally honest. He wasn't particularly consistent and his injury record has been very poor. He's still one of our better players for sure, but that's more of a damming indictment of the rest of our players in that attacking third rather than Armstrong being a world beater. Edited 9 January, 2023 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: This is the embodiment of the long-lasting Saints tradition of pining for players who aren't playing, then when they start playing again it transpires that they aren't the messiah. He's a decent player, that is all. I think the fact hes better than Ely but gets overlooked is a big mistake. IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 MadNate said in his pre-match conf for City that Stuart won't be coming on at all until his condition/injury is remedied. Said the club was wrong to have taken advantage of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 10 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2023 9 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said: MadNate said in his pre-match conf for City that Stuart won't be coming on at all until his condition/injury is remedied. Said the club was wrong to have taken advantage of him. To be fair that’s the right answer, never like the idea of players using painkillers to get through games, invariably it makes the injury worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 (edited) Probably why we've pushed to get Alcarez asap then as from reports they're similar players. Edited 10 January, 2023 by Saint IQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 5 hours ago, the saint in winchester said: MadNate said in his pre-match conf for City that Stuart won't be coming on at all until his condition/injury is remedied. Said the club was wrong to have taken advantage of him. That's as it should be. And fuck me. Is he starting to make comments that are correct and us fans agree with? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 12:47, Chewy said: I don’t think he’s particularly special, but he’s the only member of the entire squad with any creativity and an attacking football brain, other than possibly KWP and Tino. The rest have nothing between them aside Edozie dribbling with little effect so far, and JWP on direct free kicks. I honestly can’t think of any other scenarios where we create anything for ourselves. We get the odd chance through pressing and opposition mistakes (Palace case in point); we used to offer bits out wide and KWP still does very occasionally. I don’t think Stuart is our saviour and in the same league as de Bruyne … but at least he does something, or at least tries. Maybe he is managing pain, but if he can barely manage 10 minutes (forest) his injury needs sorting properly. It’s pointless otherwise Totally agree. Stuart is bang average but when he comes on, hope levels go up. That says so much about the rest of the team but sounds like he needs to be rested and now it's time for others to take up the mantle and be more direct. Maybe Alcatraz will help us do the The Great Escape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 Armstrong looks more positive when coming on, particularly in a more advanced role. He is a liability in any midfield role directly in front of the defence. These new, or potentially new, signings need to be an improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 Russell Martin has lifted the lid a little on why Stuart Armstrong's performance levels tailed off the last couple of seasons. Good to hear he's back in a good place mentally & physically... (From 20m 45s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 21:05, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: Totally agree. Stuart is bang average but when he comes on, hope levels go up. That says so much about the rest of the team but sounds like he needs to be rested and now it's time for others to take up the mantle and be more direct. Maybe Alcatraz will help us do the The Great Escape! I saw what you did there and I'm not pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 17 hours ago, trousers said: Russell Martin has lifted the lid a little on why Stuart Armstrong's performance levels tailed off the last couple of seasons. Good to hear he's back in a good place mentally & physically... (From 20m 45s) He actually doesn’t really lift the lid and was very vague as to what’s been going on. But yes glad to hear he’s ok now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 STU GOOD POINTS : Great character. Great experience. Stu is one of the few players confident enough to exhort/ encourage the Northam support when it comes to corners at that end. He is not afraid to have a shot. He scored a great direct kick I did not know was in him. He’s not afraid to take the ball in mf and drive forwards centrally. International player and proud of it. Strong on the ball - running in that danger area is his calling card. Shots from distance also. Deceptive pace and strength on the ball. Takes corners and free kicks now instead of JWP. STU LESS GOOD POINTS : Does not score enough. Final pass / lucidity of mind after his extended mf runs into central position to give it to the goal shooter (😁). Shooting probably too many over the bar not testing keeper, running back and being effective defensively he finds less fun - he’s not the worst cough cough Charlie - and given he’s a AMF his job is to be ahead of flynnn and Will so it’s harder for him to get back- all the same needs to kick them oppo players a bit more show more fighting. Corners are a little inconsistent - maybe having a 6ft 2” cf to aim at will help! Overall : a very firm fan favourite always gives his best. But he’s no Jude Bellingham obvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 November, 2023 Share Posted 3 November, 2023 ...have just read comment from Stuart Armstrong about possible contract extension after summer. He has the sort of experience we need right now to be amongst the younger players who are still finding their feet in senior football, and if he's fortunate enough to stay injury free ? - he can be a great asset in getting us back to the Prem. No-one expects to see him playing 90 minute games every week, but he could still DAJFU for a few more years. Looking back some years Stephen Davis could still command a place in the Prem. squad at age 34 before he returned to Scotland ..and then got another 4-5 seasons in the SPL. All things considered it could be a win-win situation if Stuart signs on for a few more seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 3 November, 2023 Share Posted 3 November, 2023 Steven Davis was a much better player than Stuart Armstrong. He is a decent player for our current situation and overall has been a good signing but his contract isnt really a cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 3 November, 2023 Share Posted 3 November, 2023 Very much depends what league we're in next year doesn't it. Maybe he'd be a useful squad player in the Prem but not much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Spinney Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 https://www.southamptonfc.news/news/russell-martin-provides-update-on-contract-situation-of-amazing-southampton-player/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Fraser, why on a Southampton site, in an article about Southampton, with nothing to do with Swansea, would you call Russell Martin the ex-Swansea City manager. It reads a bit odd, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Love Stu❤️. Stu will be 32 in March. out of contract in the summer. And Was on £70k pw. My personal view : I don’t think he would play as much or enjoy it as much next season at Saints in the EPL (if we make it- nor staying here if we don’t) Given his contract situation this current season will probably be his last for Saints. And we should appreciate him accordingly. He will reach 200 appearances shortly also. The ideal for him might be if he goes to Celtic to pick up a championship winners trophy but had not cost them anything so they can give him two years on a decent wage.Maybe even a join up bonus. That might also enable perhaps some young talent incoming from them to us also. 😁😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 (edited) Ignore Edited January 15 by maysie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 (edited) He has a law degree and apparently is thinking of giving up football to persue his dream of being a lawyer. Edited January 15 by maysie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, maysie said: He has a law degree and apparently is thinking of giving up football to persue his dream of being a lawyer. Yes he has, studied it 10years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 40 minutes ago, maysie said: He has a law degree and apparently is thinking of giving up football to persue his dream of being a lawyer. Stu's watched too much suits i think Edited January 15 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On trial at Brentford, playing the second 45 today of their friendly at AFC Wimbledon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Surprising to see him there. Shame he seemingly didn't want to stay with us but good luck to him. Assuming we did try to keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 He could of course end up at Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 56 minutes ago, Barsiem said: Surprising to see him there. Shame he seemingly didn't want to stay with us but good luck to him. Assuming we did try to keep him? According to the Echo he was offered a contract but turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Watching how he's getting on (and scouting the opposition) https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/tv/videos/Live/0_ma8uvmu0 Brentford play at a noticeably higher tempo to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I think it’s humiliating. Having to trial for Brentford v AFC Wimbledon? FFS. I think they are the lowest payers in our league… Imagine if he gets turned down by Brentford. He’s well and truly fucked. I don’t think that was a good idea Stu. Get back to Celtic mate and win some medals, play in Europe and get mass fannadulation & extra glory for a few years. Probably about same pay as what Bees would offer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obstacle1 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Bit weird that they want him to trial isn't it? Haven't they seen him play before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Watching how he's getting on (and scouting the opposition) https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/tv/videos/Live/0_ma8uvmu0 Brentford play at a noticeably higher tempo to us. I think every PL team does. Back to Stu, hopefully he gets a good move. Was a decent servant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 minutes ago, Obstacle1 said: Bit weird that they want him to trial isn't it? Haven't they seen him play before? In our one paced team, and for Scotland. Sensible to want to see how he gets on playing their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obstacle1 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 minute ago, egg said: In our one paced team, and for Scotland. Sensible to want to see how he gets on playing their way. I can see the logic, but almost every club would ideally want to see how a player got on in their system before signing. It's weird to see an established professional with over a hundred (?) premier league games having to trial for a club. Anyway good luck to him wherever he ends up. Always enjoyed watching him play and felt he was one of the few players with attacking guile we've had in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Find this all a bit odd. Leaves us to join the dizzying heights of.....Brentford. Did he really reject a contract with us to join them?? What happened to wanting to go home? Doesn't really make much sense..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Just now, Viking Saint said: Find this all a bit odd. Leaves us to join the dizzying heights of.....Brentford. Did he really reject a contract with us to join them?? What happened to wanting to go home? Doesn't really make much sense..... Not sure why people are going a bit OTT over this? We offered him a contract, it probably wasn't long term or anything huge pay rise due to his age and increasing injury issues. He decided to leave and asses his options, that's what he's doing. Brentford haven't offered him a contract, he's not agreed to join them, he's just assessing his options and they've offered him a trial. I think the fact that he's having to resort to trials shows how he's seen amongst other clubs - ended the season with a nasty injury, has slowed down massively as a player. Had some good moments last year but he didn't take the league by storm and it was the right time for him and us to part ways. If he joins Brentford he joins Brentford, I don't think it will be of any odds to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Not sure why people are going a bit OTT over this? We offered him a contract, it probably wasn't long term or anything huge pay rise due to his age and increasing injury issues. He decided to leave and asses his options, that's what he's doing. Brentford haven't offered him a contract, he's not agreed to join them, he's just assessing his options and they've offered him a trial. I think the fact that he's having to resort to trials shows how he's seen amongst other clubs - ended the season with a nasty injury, has slowed down massively as a player. Had some good moments last year but he didn't take the league by storm and it was the right time for him and us to part ways. If he joins Brentford he joins Brentford, I don't think it will be of any odds to us. Until he scores a last minute winner against us at St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I'd not be at all surprised if SR tried to reduce the salary of a new contract. If he gets more money at Brentford, or better terms there, then it's his choice to make. He might also prefer their set up, and how they've pitched their place/ his involvement to him. Considering they finished 16th last season, I can't really say I wish him all the best. I hope the club has a stinker, and finishes below us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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