Stu Armstrong

[ErwinK1961]

3 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

I do believe Armstrong wants a move back up north but unless we get an offer for him then it’s not happening.

Must remember that Vestergaard and him were the best of buddies and this might of made things even more difficult.

If Christie was an option then at least you move on a unhappy player member like Ings and Bertrand.

Signing a new contract in January seems an odd move if that is the case.

[Toadhall Saint]

2 hours ago, Pilchards said:

I do believe Armstrong wants a move back up north but unless we get an offer for him then it’s not happening.

Must remember that Vestergaard and him were the best of buddies and this might of made things even more difficult.

If Christie was an option then at least you move on a unhappy player member like Ings and Bertrand.

What makes you believe that he wants a move back up north?

[Matthew Le God]

2 hours ago, Pilchards said:

I do believe Armstrong wants a move back up north but unless we get an offer for him then it’s not happening.

Changed his mind since January when he extended his contract until 2024?

 

[MarkSFC]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Changed his mind since January when he extended his contract until 2024?

 

Maybe his personal circumstances have altered, family illness perhaps. These guys are human at the end of the day.

I hope that's not the case but if it is then who can really blame him. We might all do the same. 

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, MarkSFC said:

Maybe his personal circumstances have altered, family illness perhaps. These guys are human at the end of the day.

I hope that's not the case but if it is then who can really blame him. We might all do the same. 

True.

 

would be nice for Blackmore to clarify what he meant.

[the wedge]

1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

True.

 

would be nice for Blackmore to clarify what he meant.

What was it that Blackmore said? Can't find the quote anywhere...

[Matthew Le God]

 

[niceandfriendly]

(paraphrasing)

Blackmore: Is all ok with Stuart Armstrong? Are you worried he wants to go back to Scotland? Are you expecting Stu Armstrong or anyone else to leave the club?

Ralph: No, not worried about this. We need every player and I don't expect anybody to go.

 

[Daft Kerplunk]

On 27/08/2021 at 06:27, niceandfriendly said:

(paraphrasing)

Blackmore: Is all ok with Stuart Armstrong? Are you worried he wants to go back to Scotland? Are you expecting Stu Armstrong or anyone else to leave the club?

Ralph: No, not worried about this. We need every player and I don't expect anybody to go.

 

So the player might want to leave, or there might be interest but Ralph doesn’t want the player sold. I know Ralph’s English can get tied up a little so hopefully this is one of those moments, and not a guarded and nuanced answer.

[niceandfriendly]

I feel like that was a genuine reaction from Ralph when asked about Stu. Watch his facial expression when Blackmore asks about him. I've seen enough Saints managers of old trying to avoid questions about players potentially leaving to think that Ralph is telling the truth on this one.  

[Charlie Wayman]

40 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

So the player might want to leave, or there might be interest but Ralph doesn’t want the player sold. I know Ralph’s English can get tied up a little so hopefully this is one of those moments, and not a guarded and nuanced answer.

Why speculate with hypothetical claptrap. There is no conspiracy, Stuart has a calf injury and has not resumed training. When he does he will be back in the team.

He can still be mates with whomever he wishes, that doesn't mean he has to move next door.

Bloody hell, why can't people adopt the maxim that the simplest explanation is usually the right one.

[Billy the Kidd]

Or as these pesky hipsters call it, Occam’s Razor. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Armstrong and Occam in swap deal shocker! 🙂

[Dusic]

Can't see Armstrong in the latest training pictures, so maybe a longer term injury than first thought?

[trousers]

I don't wish to start any conspiracy theories (honest!) but Ralph has gone from regularly predicting a return for Armstrong in "a couple of weeks" over the last couple of months to giving no timeframe at all, now just saying that he's still out. 

All seems a tad odd for what was originally described as a 'minor calf injury'. 

Yes, I know players can have set backs but still makes me ponder whether there was more to his injury than the club initially let on in the first place.

Edited 24 September, 2021 by trousers

[qwertyell]

22 minutes ago, trousers said:

I don't wish to start any conspiracy theories (honest!) but Ralph has gone from regularly predicting a return for Armstrong in "a couple of weeks" over the last couple of months to giving no timeframe at all, now just saying that he's still out. 

All seems a tad odd for what was originally described as a 'minor calf injury'. 

Yes, I know players can have set backs but still makes me ponder whether there was more to his injury than the club initially let on in the first place.

Vincent Kompany missed about three years on and off with a recurring calf problem that they just couldn't get right no matter what they tried. They're tricky things once they start playing up.

[Turkish]

Strange how minor injuries keep our players out so long…

[trousers]

Still pondering....

[JRM]

31 minutes ago, trousers said:

Still pondering....

I've heard a rumour that's he's refusing the play until Saints fans promise not to sing the Yaya / Kolo Toure song. Think there could be some truth in it.

[Saint Garrett]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

Still pondering....

Yup. We really bloody miss him. Sooner he’s back the better. 

[trousers]

[skintsaint]

well that will intensify the rumours 😅

[VectisSaint]

This is crazy, how do Scotland get to select a player who hasn't even been in training for weeks. Something isn't right here. 

[TWar]

Maybe he's close to back. It is still like 11 days until the internationals.

[nta786]

If he gets injured during international duty I'll be fuming, I'd like him back in our starting XI. 

He shouldn't be needed for the game against Faroe Islands either to be honest.

Ideal world though he pulls out. 

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, nta786 said:

Ideal world though he pulls out. 

that's what my missus said.

[LiberalCommunist]

Unbelievable. He should not make himself available and they should not select him. 

We have two prominent Scottish players, they should be nurturing our ongoing relationship. 

This feels like a bit of a slap in the face. 

[DT]

On 24/09/2021 at 14:11, trousers said:

I don't wish to start any conspiracy theories (honest!) but Ralph has gone from regularly predicting a return for Armstrong in "a couple of weeks" over the last couple of months to giving no timeframe at all, now just saying that he's still out. 

All seems a tad odd for what was originally described as a 'minor calf injury'. 

Yes, I know players can have set backs but still makes me ponder whether there was more to his injury than the club initially let on in the first place.

Obviously wants to leave the sinking ship

[Billy the Kidd]

[JRM]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Unbelievable. He should not make himself available and they should not select him. 

We have two prominent Scottish players, they should be nurturing our ongoing relationship. 

This feels like a bit of a slap in the face. 

I should imagine once he's missed Chelsea away he will be able to withdraw from the squad, a couple of months out he will need time to get fit but something doesn't feel right about all this. 

[IOWSaintDaz]

Deffo another want away, Ralph should be honest about it, still got another 2 years on his contract, wouldn't be suprised to see him go in January if he continues to dig his heals in, at least get some money for him to re-invest in the team

[goodymatt]

33 minutes ago, IOWSaintDaz said:

Deffo another want away, Ralph should be honest about it, still got another 2 years on his contract, wouldn't be suprised to see him go in January if he continues to dig his heals in, at least get some money for him to re-invest in the team

Think his contract runs to 2024. Didn’t he sign a new one not long ago?

Just checked, he signed a new 3.5 year deal in January 2021. You wonder why he would now suddenly want to leave?

Edited 28 September, 2021 by goodymatt

[East Kent Saint]

6 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

This is crazy, how do Scotland get to select a player who hasn't even been in training for weeks. Something isn't right here. 

Just because he’s named in the squad it doesn’t mean he’s fit to play or he will join up for the match preliminarys !

[bpsaint]

Pretty sure he was called up for the last internationals and ended up withdrawing - expect it’ll be the same this time around too.

[Billy the Kidd]

Could it be that the player is just injured?

[Give it to Ron]

24 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Think his contract runs to 2024. Didn’t he sign a new one not long ago?

Just checked, he signed a new 3.5 year deal in January 2021. You wonder why he would now suddenly want to leave?

Maybe his family can’t settle

[goodymatt]

2 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Maybe his family can’t settle

Quite possible. Hoping this isn’t the case and it is just an injury, but there’s usually no smoke without fire and that Sun article (yes, I know it’s The Sun) was concerning and so out of the blue.

[Tamesaint]

5 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Maybe his family can’t settle

He has just bought a house in Winchester. 

[Sideways Jim]

52 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

He has just bought a house in Winchester. 

Martin O'Neil finally managed to sell that house then 

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, Billy the Kidd said:

Could it be that the player is just injured?

Are you mental? Suggesting something as mundane as that on this forum?!?!

I think you'll find that he hates saints, thinks we're a terrible club thats destined for relegation, wishes he'd never signed that new contract 8months ago, and is on strike agitating to leave.

Injured?!?! Pah! 

Edit - He's also fed up because we have noddy fans that occasionally wear face paint, and have players that don't pass to him.

Edited 28 September, 2021 by Saint86

[Jeremy Corbyn]

10 hours ago, Sideways Jim said:

Martin O'Neil finally managed to sell that house then 

Could it be Michael Owen's?

[SuperSAINT]

11 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

He has just bought a house in Winchester. 

 

10 hours ago, Sideways Jim said:

Martin O'Neil finally managed to sell that house then 

 

1 minute ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Could it be Michael Owen's?

No, it’s Elliott Ward’s house.  He started building it in 2010.

[trousers]

[Chris cooper]

13 minutes ago, trousers said:

Wot aload of Bollocks .. he’s unsettled and wants back to Scotland .. Celtic 

[Saint_lambden]

1 hour ago, Chris cooper said:

Wot aload of Bollocks .. he’s unsettled and wants back to Scotland .. Celtic 

Just bought a house in Winchester because he fancies a 400+ mile commute? 

[skintsaint]

1 hour ago, Chris cooper said:

Wot aload of Bollocks .. he’s unsettled and wants back to Scotland .. Celtic 

They couldn't afford him.

[Saint Garrett]

1 hour ago, Chris cooper said:

Wot aload of Bollocks .. he’s unsettled and wants back to Scotland .. Celtic 

Edited 29 September, 2021 by Saint Garrett

[Chris cooper]

1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said:

And who could blame him .. we are shite !! 😂

[cloggy saint]

14 minutes ago, Chris cooper said:

And who could blame him .. we are shite !! 😂

So are Celtic.

[Toussaint]

Going to Stenhousemuir in Jan.