Jonnyboy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Privatisation is so great, keep voting for it Britain. Thanks "ConDems!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Alan Bates learned he was being nominated for a knighthood whilst listening to Paula Vennels give evidence to the enquiry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Karma. With the media being polluted with so many dreadful people at the moment it makes a pleasant change to see a genuinely decent person make the news for being just that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 17 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Karma. With the media being polluted with so many dreadful people at the moment it makes a pleasant change to see a genuinely decent person make the news for being just that. Yep, although a knighthood feels a tad heavy. MBE territory for me, CBE on a good day. Surprised to not see some of the others not get anything. Kay Linnell played a big part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 48 minutes ago, egg said: Yep, although a knighthood feels a tad heavy. MBE territory for me, CBE on a good day. Surprised to not see some of the others not get anything. Kay Linnell played a big part. In the normal course if things, it probably would have been but a CBE/MBE/OBE would have left him level with Vennells in effect so a knighthood differentiates and recognises the struggles to fight chronic injustices over a long period whereas Vennells got her gong for doing her job (appallingly as it turned out). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, egg said: Yep, although a knighthood feels a tad heavy. MBE territory for me, CBE on a good day. Surprised to not see some of the others not get anything. Kay Linnell played a big part. It was good enough for Jimmy Savile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 6 minutes ago, whelk said: It was good enough for Jimmy Savile Fair point. Looking at it this morning, some of those knight and dame hoods are handed out like toffee apples at a fun fair, and then you get Simon Le Bon and a backing singer from Boney M getting an MBE 40 and 50 years respectively after they were making it big. On reflection, Bates probably deserves his gong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, whelk said: It was good enough for Jimmy Savile Old Jim got his for all the charity marathon running. The rape and necrophilia wasn't factored in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Old Jim got his for all the charity marathon running. The rape and necrophilia wasn't factored in. Whoosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Old Jim got his for all the charity marathon running. The rape and necrophilia wasn't factored in. He was knighted for personifying Thatcherism. The rape and necrophillia was ignored. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said: He was knighted for personifying Thatcherism. The rape and necrophillia was ignored. He’s completely missed the point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5 hours ago, egg said: Fair point. Looking at it this morning, some of those knight and dame hoods are handed out like toffee apples at a fun fair, and then you get Simon Le Bon and a backing singer from Boney M getting an MBE 40 and 50 years respectively after they were making it big. On reflection, Bates probably deserves his gong. I fancy getting my hands on one for services to football forums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) Wow... this Richard Christou fella giving evidence today (Futitsu ex CEO & Chairman) is giving a masterclass in arrogance, ignorance, smugness, self-aggrandising and lack of emphathy. Responsibilty? Accountablity? "Nah, not me guv, I was just the CEO / Chairman and knew f*** all about what was going on in my company". Someone please wipe that perpetual grin off his face please. Edited June 19 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Christou says he "had no knowledge" of any prosecutions during his tenure and is "surprised" that Fujitsu staff were giving evidence. What exactly did he get paid for...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) In response to the the statement put to him: "the Fujitsu software was proven to be not fit for purpose" he defended Fujitsu's position be responding: "the software being 'fit for purpose' was never written into the contract" Jesus Christ, is this man for real...? Edited June 19 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, trousers said: In response to the the statement put to him: "the Fujitsu software was proven to be not fit for purpose" he defended Fujitsu's position be responding: "the software being 'fit for purpose' was never written into the contract" Jesus Christ, is this man for real...? If he is, it says a lot about the PO lawyers who signed off the contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: If he is, it says a lot about the PO lawyers who signed off the contract! Totally agree, but for this bloke to sit there grinning from ear-to-ear and referring to a 'loop hole' in the contract to get him off the hook must make the postmasters feel like punching his lights out! (metophorically of course) Shame they had the softer questioners on duty today. Edited June 19 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd110nl7dppo Unbelievable that the fuck ups continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd110nl7dppo Unbelievable that the fuck ups continue. Someone needs to put this inept organisation out of its misery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Jason Beer on top form today. Just seen that he won 'Barrister of the Year' award yesterday. Give that man a gong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd110nl7dppo Unbelievable that the fuck ups continue. 1 hour ago, trousers said: Someone needs to put this inept organisation out of its misery How can any organisation be 'institutionally inept' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Up today.... George Thomson, the former General Secretary of the National Federation of Subpostmasters.... 15 minutes in and I don't think he could get any further up his own arse if he tried. Zero empathy for the people he's supposed to have represented, still maintaining that the Horizon system was/is "robust".... I think the questioner might get up and lamp him before the end of proceedings.... keeps having to tell him to shut the f*** up and just answer the questions.... #reachesforthepopcorn Edited June 21 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Now Sir Wyn has had to step in to tell him to shut the f*** up and answer the actual questions. Are all union/federation leaders this belligerent / arrogant....? Edited June 21 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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benjii Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 On 19/06/2024 at 16:59, Weston Super Saint said: If he is, it says a lot about the PO lawyers who signed off the contract! Not really. Virtually every single software contract says the product is not warranted as fit for a particular purpose and is not error free. That is very standard. Of course, that doesn't mean they have no liability if it is a shower of shit. It's also unusual for customers of software companies to play an active role in suppressing how bad it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Oops... just as Thomson started throwing his toys out of the pram.... 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 What a **** 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 This guy is completely unhinged. Think he needs to seek psychiatric help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Ha... most of the room gets up and walks out during his closing rant... he needs to be sectioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 In the pocket of the POL whilst taking a nice wage. What a corrupt cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) From the BBC reporting on Gareth Jenkins' being questioned on his witness statements for the prosecution of a sub-postmaster; "On Wednesday the inquiry was shown drafts of witness statements by Mr Jenkins, drawn up as Post Office prosecutors prepared their case against Mr Thomas. In his first draft, Mr Jenkins said “system failure” could be one of the reasons behind the problems at Mr Thomas’ branch, adding that “such failures are normal occurrences”. The inquiry was shown how this line had been deleted, in edits to the document made by Post Office investigator, Graham Ward. Mr Ward added in tracked changes to the document: “This is a really poor choice of words which seems to accept that failures in the system are normal and therefore may well support the postmasters' claim that the system is to blame for losses !!!!” In a separate email to Mr Jenkins, Mr Ward told him his statement needed work, saying it was “potentially very damaging” and that the Post Office needed to ensure it was not “embarrassed” in court." Doctoring evidence and not disclosing to the defence information they might find useful - not looking good for Mr Ward. Jenkins is already being investigated for perjury. Edited June 26 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) Just catching up yesterday's session with former MP and Post Office Minister Kelly Tolhurst.... f*** me... how does someone this intellectually challenged, and woefully out of their depth, end up in a position of significant power and responsibility....? Frightening. Pat McFadden and Ed Davey appear today.... Edited July 18 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) Everybody else was misleading me, and I didn't think to ask questions. I thought Ministers ran Departments, rather than simply and blindly signing the bits of paper that passed across their desks. When is Jim Hacker appearing before the Inquiry? Edited July 18 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 From the BBC coverage today; ''We’ve been hearing this afternoon from another former business secretary, Greg Clark. Here’s what he had to say: Clark claimed the Post Office prosecutions were brought in a way "that was, I’m afraid, corrupt", "unreliable", and "totally conscionable" The former business secretary said the management culture of the Post Office was "insensitive and dismissive to the point of abject rudeness" Clark was "angry" when officials said they would appeal the High Court judgement in 2019 for "tactical" reasons. The Post Office wanted to play "a legal game", he said.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 According to a survey of current SPMs, commissioned by Sir Wyn Williams the Chair of the enquiry, Horizon is still causing accounting discrepancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: According to a survey of current SPMs, commissioned by Sir Wyn Williams the Chair of the enquiry, Horizon is still causing accounting discrepancies. Unbelievable https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6ez6p567do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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