When will THB and Sam Edozie get full England caps?

[gio1saints]

Carry on at this rate they are getting closer. Think the euros is too early ( depending on injuries) but if Southgate moves on after that a new manager may very likely ( imo) make the call to include them in his first squad - assuming they keep playing well AND we go up. 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by gio1saints

[AlexLaw76]

How about performing like this for a period in the premier league.

Even if there are injuries, neither will be going to the Euro's. Madness

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[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:02, gio1saints said:

Carry on at this rate they are getting closer. Think the euros is too early ( depending on injuries) but if Southgate moves on after that a new manager may very likely ( imo) make the call to include them in his first squad - assuming they keep playing well AND we go up. 

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How about when they are on the bench of a big six club like Phillips?

[gio1saints]

Yep agreed, thry have to be in the EPL and performing at this level ( or better!) 

[AlexLaw76]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:08, gio1saints said:

Yep agreed, thry have to be in the EPL and performing at this level ( or better!) 

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They both have lots of players (rightly) way ahead of them, even if they are premier league players next season.

[gio1saints]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:08, Lee On Solent Saint said:

How about when they are on the bench of a big six club like Phillips?

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Sadly true. More likely to be in the Eng squad as an unused sub who last played good about 18mths ago  ( like Kalving Phillips) than playing well for Saints in the EPL. 

[gio1saints]

I’d bet THB gets his full cap first though. 

[The Kraken]

I believe THB has previously been involved in training with the England senior squad, and as a stalwart of the U21s the England setup will be very aware of him. But until he’s performing in the PL I’d say there’s not much chance of a call up.

Edozie is miles away from it.

[gio1saints]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:12, The Kraken said:

Edozie is miles away from it.

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Yeah guess so. There’s at least half a dozen English top winger types ahead of him. 
But he’s in the top ten!😃
 

 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by gio1saints

[LGTL]

Edozie - never. 
 

THB has a better chance but would need to be playing consistently in the PL to ever get a look in. 

[AlexLaw76]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:28, gio1saints said:

Yeah guess so. There’s at least half a dozen English top winger types ahead of him. 
But he’s in the top ten!😃
 

 

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Edozie, doing well for the 3rd placed team in teh championship, is ahead of some of these???

Sterling, Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Palmer, Saka, Elliot, Bowen, Gordan, Hudson-Odoi, Gibbs-White, Maduake, Barnes, March, Eze, McNeil, McAtee...

That is off the top of my head, all performing to differing levels in the premier league....I do love how ridiculously biased fans are 😆

[gio1saints]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:39, AlexLaw76 said:

Edozie, doing well for the 3rd placed team in teh championship, is ahead of some of these???

Sterling, Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Palmer, Saka, Elliot, Bowen, Gordan, Hudson-Odoi, Gibbs-White, Maduake, Barnes, March, Eze, McNeil, McAtee...

That is off the top of my head, all performing to differing levels in the premier league....I do love how ridiculously biased fans are 😆

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Maybe I underestimated how many there are 😂. And yeah I am totally biased! 😇

[coalman]

Both of them are a long way off at the moment. Both as playing well for us and improving. It's an open question whether they can get there but they're doing a great job for Saints right now.

[The Cat]

I'd rather they didn't because it would mean I'd need to bother watching England play.

[S-Clarke]

THB won't be far away once he starts playing in the PL, he's already PL quality really - stunned why Burnley didn't make a push for him, they had a weird transfer window.

Edozie still has a long, long way to go. So much experienced quality in front of him, he'll need a season or 2 of playing consistently in the PL before he's in the discussion - similar situation as Eze I think, probably never going to be 'quite' good enough.

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[Turkish]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:12, The Kraken said:

I believe THB has previously been involved in training with the England senior squad, and as a stalwart of the U21s the England setup will be very aware of him. But until he’s performing in the PL I’d say there’s not much chance of a call up.

Edozie is miles away from it.

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He trained with the full squad for the last set of games England had. He’s destined for the top, a class player who will be signed by a top 4 club for mega money in the next 3-4 years. Can see him and Levi Collwill being Englands centre back pairing for the 2028 euros. One of the few reasons I want to go up is so we can keep him a bit longer 
 

Edozie is no where near that level 

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[Harry_SFC]

If THB was playing in the Premier League he'd be there or thereabouts already imo.

As others have said, Edozie is miles off it currently. 

[The Kraken]

  On 30/12/2023 at 12:38, S-Clarke said:

THB won't be far away once he starts playing in the PL, he's already PL quality really - stunned why Burnley didn't make a push for him, they had a weird transfer window.

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THB didn’t play all that much in the second half of that season, he got injured in January and didn’t get his place back until there was only about 3 or 4 games of the season to play (by which time Burnley were pretty much promoted). 

Dont get me wrong, I’m still surprised they didn’t sign him, but maybe they thought the £15m wasn’t value enough for someone who wouldn’t necessarily be starting for them? They spent a combined £20M on two CBs in the summer, so they clearly opted not to go for him for whatever reason. Their loss is definitely our gain.

[Dr Who?]

Don’t think they will in the championship and do not think they are anywhere near good enough for the England squad. 

[JRM]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:12, gio1saints said:

I’d bet THB gets his full cap first though. 

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He's already trained with the England team and u21s captain so he's almost there 

[Tamesaint]

THB will be in the full England squad at the end of next season. A season with us in the EPL and he will be a shoe in for England. Unfortunately for Saints  I can also see him being on a Big 6 club radar (Liverpool??) and he will be sold for £60 million. 

I am not sure about Edozie.  Not convinced he will earn an England cap. 

 

[SaintBobby]

Near impossible to get into the England team from the EFL. I’d say THB is a couple of years away. Edozie is odds against for a cap - but if he can perform at a higher level, maybe.

[HarvSFC]

Love Harwood-Bellis. A real coup for this level in the summer. Hopefully no chance of an Alderweireld situation repeating itself should we win promotion.