When will THB and Sam Edozie get full England caps?

[gio1saints]

Carry on at this rate they are getting closer. Think the euros is too early ( depending on injuries) but if Southgate moves on after that a new manager may very likely ( imo) make the call to include them in his first squad - assuming they keep playing well AND we go up. 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by gio1saints

[AlexLaw76]

How about performing like this for a period in the premier league.

Even if there are injuries, neither will be going to the Euro's. Madness

Edited 30 December, 2023 by AlexLaw76

[Lee On Solent Saint]

4 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Carry on at this rate they are getting closer. Think the euros is too early ( depending on injuries) but if Southgate moves on after that a new manager may very likely ( imo) make the call to include them in his first squad - assuming they keep playing well AND we go up. 

How about when they are on the bench of a big six club like Phillips?

[gio1saints]

Yep agreed, thry have to be in the EPL and performing at this level ( or better!) 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, gio1saints said:

Yep agreed, thry have to be in the EPL and performing at this level ( or better!) 

They both have lots of players (rightly) way ahead of them, even if they are premier league players next season.

[gio1saints]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

How about when they are on the bench of a big six club like Phillips?

Sadly true. More likely to be in the Eng squad as an unused sub who last played good about 18mths ago  ( like Kalving Phillips) than playing well for Saints in the EPL. 

[gio1saints]

I’d bet THB gets his full cap first though. 

[The Kraken]

I believe THB has previously been involved in training with the England senior squad, and as a stalwart of the U21s the England setup will be very aware of him. But until he’s performing in the PL I’d say there’s not much chance of a call up.

Edozie is miles away from it.

[gio1saints]

16 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Edozie is miles away from it.

Yeah guess so. There’s at least half a dozen English top winger types ahead of him. 
But he’s in the top ten!😃
 

 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by gio1saints

[LGTL]

Edozie - never. 
 

THB has a better chance but would need to be playing consistently in the PL to ever get a look in. 

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, gio1saints said:

Yeah guess so. There’s at least half a dozen English top winger types ahead of him. 
But he’s in the top ten!😃
 

 

Edozie, doing well for the 3rd placed team in teh championship, is ahead of some of these???

Sterling, Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Palmer, Saka, Elliot, Bowen, Gordan, Hudson-Odoi, Gibbs-White, Maduake, Barnes, March, Eze, McNeil, McAtee...

That is off the top of my head, all performing to differing levels in the premier league....I do love how ridiculously biased fans are 😆

[gio1saints]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Edozie, doing well for the 3rd placed team in teh championship, is ahead of some of these???

Sterling, Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Palmer, Saka, Elliot, Bowen, Gordan, Hudson-Odoi, Gibbs-White, Maduake, Barnes, March, Eze, McNeil, McAtee...

That is off the top of my head, all performing to differing levels in the premier league....I do love how ridiculously biased fans are 😆

Maybe I underestimated how many there are 😂. And yeah I am totally biased! 😇

[coalman]

Both of them are a long way off at the moment. Both as playing well for us and improving. It's an open question whether they can get there but they're doing a great job for Saints right now.

[The Cat]

I'd rather they didn't because it would mean I'd need to bother watching England play.

[S-Clarke]

THB won't be far away once he starts playing in the PL, he's already PL quality really - stunned why Burnley didn't make a push for him, they had a weird transfer window.

Edozie still has a long, long way to go. So much experienced quality in front of him, he'll need a season or 2 of playing consistently in the PL before he's in the discussion - similar situation as Eze I think, probably never going to be 'quite' good enough.

Edited 30 December, 2023 by S-Clarke

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

I believe THB has previously been involved in training with the England senior squad, and as a stalwart of the U21s the England setup will be very aware of him. But until he’s performing in the PL I’d say there’s not much chance of a call up.

Edozie is miles away from it.

He trained with the full squad for the last set of games England had. He’s destined for the top, a class player who will be signed by a top 4 club for mega money in the next 3-4 years. Can see him and Levi Collwill being Englands centre back pairing for the 2028 euros. One of the few reasons I want to go up is so we can keep him a bit longer 
 

Edozie is no where near that level 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by Turkish

[Harry_SFC]

If THB was playing in the Premier League he'd be there or thereabouts already imo.

As others have said, Edozie is miles off it currently. 

[The Kraken]

19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

THB won't be far away once he starts playing in the PL, he's already PL quality really - stunned why Burnley didn't make a push for him, they had a weird transfer window.

THB didn’t play all that much in the second half of that season, he got injured in January and didn’t get his place back until there was only about 3 or 4 games of the season to play (by which time Burnley were pretty much promoted). 

Dont get me wrong, I’m still surprised they didn’t sign him, but maybe they thought the £15m wasn’t value enough for someone who wouldn’t necessarily be starting for them? They spent a combined £20M on two CBs in the summer, so they clearly opted not to go for him for whatever reason. Their loss is definitely our gain.

[Dr Who?]

Don’t think they will in the championship and do not think they are anywhere near good enough for the England squad. 

[JRM]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

I’d bet THB gets his full cap first though. 

He's already trained with the England team and u21s captain so he's almost there 

[Tamesaint]

THB will be in the full England squad at the end of next season. A season with us in the EPL and he will be a shoe in for England. Unfortunately for Saints  I can also see him being on a Big 6 club radar (Liverpool??) and he will be sold for £60 million. 

I am not sure about Edozie.  Not convinced he will earn an England cap. 

 

[SaintBobby]

Near impossible to get into the England team from the EFL. I’d say THB is a couple of years away. Edozie is odds against for a cap - but if he can perform at a higher level, maybe.

[HarvSFC]

Love Harwood-Bellis. A real coup for this level in the summer. Hopefully no chance of an Alderweireld situation repeating itself should we win promotion.