adrian lord Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Undone by losing concentration after going 1 up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not terrible but this shoe horning of Stephens into the team is concerning. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Ok, so all to play for next league game when we are home to Wednesday and Ipswich have to play Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not unhappy with the score, especially with Norwich playing so dirty. This does show however we need someone more clinical upfront and RM needs to drill into the squad that we cannot rely on 1-0 leads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 A point not too shabby. This unbeaten run is remarkable but hopefully it’s not impacting the way we approach games, or how we defend leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) We seem to have a real issue holding onto leads away from home. Edited January 1 by Harry_SFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 With the fixture congestion and a bit of a bogey ground not the worst result. The unbeaten run continues! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 75% possession and 21 shots with 4 on target. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 points dropped against a pretty shit team to be honest .....but unbeaten run continues which is good . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Fair result. We played pretty well and had chances but the final ball wasn't quite there. Was a good second half with both teams going for the win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not the worst result but dropping our two goalscorers from the previous game was an odd decision. I hope Edozie is ok. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, LGTL said: Not terrible but this shoe horning of Stephens into the team is concerning. I don’t get it. The player has been horribly mediocre at best for his entire Saints career. We reward him with a new contract and captaincy. The Saints way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Mr X said: We haven't done enough today Norwich totally deserve their point I don't agree with that. We were by far and away the better side. Norwich did very little other than defend well. Fair play to them for getting a draw, but I don't think they "deserved a point". 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Losing Edozie early was a blow. No cutting edge. At least Ipswich drew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Should have won, could have lost. Decent point and at least Ipswich haven't got any further away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not the worst result given the sheer amount of games, plus the decent results we’ve had at home. Frustrating yes but at least Ipswich didn’t win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, LGTL said: Not terrible but this shoe horning of Stephens into the team is concerning. Agreed. Totally unbalances the team. Stephens should be in the team on merit, not for any other reason than that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Is there a secret prize for using the word "shoehorn" on here today? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Disappointing but maybe not the end of the world - and we have had a very good month re catching ipswich overall. But play 5 at the back vs a team with 11men behind the ball for 45min and you don't deserve to win frankly. Noriwch threatened to do exactly that all game so no one can be surprised it happened. That first 45 the result of Martin not making the big call re Stephens/bednarek/THB? And i wonder how significant not having bednarek and THB next to each other was in the Norwich equaliser? Played through us like butter there without a single challenge being attempted. Ultimately though, this could prove to be a rueful 2 points dropped at the end of the season - hopefully not! I think Martin needs to sort out what he prefers tactically / selection wise going forward, upsetting the team and/or dropping players undeservedly to just fit in Stephens doesn't work. Also, personally a bit disappointed that we waited that long to bring Alcaraz on? We were clearly tiring and he adds a real quality and threat to our attack. Edited January 1 by Saint86 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Chez said: I don't agree with that. We were by far and away the better side. Norwich did very little other than defend well. Fair play to them for getting a draw, but I don't think they "deserved a point". They also had the ball in the net which was wrongfully flagged for an offside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 That’s definitely two points dropped - Norwich executed their orders perfectly whereas we didn’t have enough energy to maintain concentration for the whole game. Once again Che and Manning were poor, with the latter and Stephens at RB meaning a completely disrupted back four. Not a particularly enjoyable game but it does provide a valuable point and another game undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Have to say seemed a fair result, sargeant was a bastard at our place and his impact today warranted the goal, not sure who messed up for it tho, have a vague recollection S Armstrong should of fouled him outside the box. Would be interesting to see how we perform with another goal scoring striker to play with Arma. Feel like we arent seeing the goals we should expect from Joe and S Armstrong. Bummer about benders, THB was awesome again. Felt manning gave the ball away too much and his corners never looked dangerous or maybe i've been spoiled by JWP. Aarma quality, always working keep it up mate. Like that charly created 2 chances in his 8mins cameo, hopefully he starts in FA Cup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 17 unbeaten. Not to be sniffed at. It's a decent result on New Year's Day away, to a decent side. Many of us predicted a draw today. Of course... ...should have had more shots on target with all the possession today. And we always look suspect on the counter. Hey, I know that possession doesn't necessarily mean shots, but it should mean more on target. We all know the what issue is; An out and out striker. (three years now, more?). No idea if that will be addressed in Jan. But happy with my teams festive football. UTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Chez said: I don't agree with that. We were by far and away the better side. Norwich did very little other than defend well. Fair play to them for getting a draw, but I don't think they "deserved a point". Agreed. Easily the better side. Away results need to improve though, we haven't won an away match by more than one goal all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Definitely take a point at the start of the day, no matter how dysfunctional Norwich are this season they do still have flashes of high quality for this level. We pretty much bossed the ball as expected, but we weren't very penatatrive with it. We didn't seem to take many risks in the final third and played it safe quite a lot, it was a really drab game if i'm honest. We may have edged it in terms of deserving to win it, but I can't be too upset with a 1-1 either. 10 points from 12 over Christmas is absolutely insane, these lads have pulled it out of the bag during a brutal run. These periods are the periods where either your season dies a death or it's breathed into life - and we certainly breathed genuine life into it for the 2nd half. Edited January 1 by S-Clarke 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Also, personally a bit disappointed that we waited that long to bring Alcaraz on? We were clearly tiring and he adds a real quality and threat to our attack. He gave the ball away in injury time which could easily have cost us the game. Until he stops giving the ball away cheaply he won’t play regularly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Not the worst result but dropping our two goalscorers from the previous game was an odd decision. I hope Edozie is ok. This is RM”s tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 They got a point they scarcely deserved. We huffed and puffed but didn’t happen this time. Given Ipswich could not beat ten man stoke away and they are the team above us this point is not a bad result though as many already saying so no need for gloominess! I was worried we would not have the energy the latter part of this match so frankly I’m taking a point gratefully. And 18 league matches unbeaten! That’s unreal. Something I’ve never experienced as a saints fan. Amazing ! Well done team! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 27 minutes ago, Mixedkebab said: THB and Bednarek have been superb together for months, RM has fucked it by shoehorning Stephens in, really pissed off with that as the defence suddenly looks shaky 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstowin Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, The Cat said: Is there a secret prize for using the word "shoehorn" on here today? I'm not sure about saintsweb posters interpolating the word shoehorn into posts about the possibly unnecessary squeezing in to the starting 11 of Stephens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If we’d been offered 12 points from Christmas we’d have bitten their hand off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 I'll take that. Shame we didn't win as we deserved. We move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juice Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, The Cat said: Is there a secret prize for using the word "shoehorn" on here today? c'mon, man. Stop tryina shoehorn jokes into the post-match analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, stknowle said: Agreed. Easily the better side. Away results need to improve though, we haven't won an away match by more than one goal all season. we don't hit teams on the break well. so we go one up and if teams come on to us, we don't take advantage. If they don't come on to us, we struggle to break them down as teams keep their shape and know they are still in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Why did Bedders go off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, bangkoksaint said: If we’d been offered 12 points from Christmas we’d have bitten their hand off We only got 10. Martin out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Definitely take a point at the start of the day, no matter how dysfunctional Norwich are this season they do still have flashes of high quality for this level. We pretty much bossed the ball as expected, but we weren't very penatatrive with it. We didn't seem to take many risks in the final third and played it safe quite a lot, it was a really drab game if i'm honest. We may have edged it in terms of deserving to win it, but I can't be too upset with a 1-1 either. 10 points from 12 over Christmas is absolutely insane, these lads have pulled it out of the bag during a brutal one. These periods are the periods where either your season dies a death or it's breathed into life - and we certainly breathed genuine life into it for the 2nd half. That's how I saw it to be honest, Norwich still no mugs at this level despite not having a great season. I would have taken 10 from 12 at the start of this period, no question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Absolutely happy with the point today. Now 18 unbeaten and another goal for Adam We've had a hectic festive period - a possible ten points from twelve is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, badgerx16 said: Why did Bedders go off ? He did take a bit of a knock at the end of the first half during a corner melee - poss a hit to the head, not 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 10 points from 12 over the festive period. Excellent return but could so easily have been 12 from 12. Still, no ground lost on Ipswich today so we march on! Edited January 1 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 10 points from 12 is pretty good going over Xmas and we have managed to put ourselves in contention for 2nd so got to be happy overall even if today was a bit disappointing. the stephens thing is odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, badgerx16 said: Why did Bedders go off ? He was dealing with an injury from the Plymouth game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Norwich are going to be a lot happier with that point than we are. One of their two attempts on target went in. They did enough to frustrate us, and had an offside decision. Becuase of the way we set up, their fans could get some excitement as they pushed it onto our full back gaps or tried some counters. On our side, we played 3 at the back, with some mobility in there with Stephens. That really supports KWP. KWP had a load of touches, covered a lot of ground, and got an assist too. Easily our most skilful player. But he, along with everyone else, didn;t make enough use of the possession we had. We did had 755 possession. We dominated the space. But although we created 21 shots form that, we simply weren;t putting their defence under pmassive amounts of pressure with them. Gunn was not the harried keeper he should have been with that level of possession. We looked a little tired (after a lot of games), a bit disjointed in our passing game. Manning's position along with KWP's role and Stpehens in there too, might have trhown us off a bit. But mainly, we looked pretty poor in creating clear cut opportunities. Norwich sitting deep early on frustrated us. But we lacked the cutting edge to take advantage when they stepped up. Martin will look at only 4 efforts on target. Behind that there was the lack of those nearly moments where it's not on target, but could have really worried a defence. Stephens had a good effort off the bar. Far too many deliveries without enough purpose. Far too many wasted passes, and Admas twice having Fraser in better positions and having shots from range didn't help. Our massive unbeaten run continues. we're now in touching distance of Ipswich. But there will be a sense of disapointment from today, which is a good thing that they are all hungry to do better. Lots more to come, and some extra days rest will only help. It's been a very productive festive period, and the focus has to be on claiming that second spot. Edited January 1 by Holmes_and_Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: We only got 10. Martin out. Ha! One game too many then in my maths!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Best of all Ipswich only drew so the gap remains the same. Didn't expect us to be this near to them by New Year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Mattio said: Not unhappy with the score, especially with Norwich playing so dirty. This does show however we need someone more clinical upfront and RM needs to drill into the squad that we cannot rely on 1-0 leads. How many times does he and the team need this drilling home to them. Again, its the lack of cutting edge up front that lets us down. 9 minutes ago, Norm said: 75% possession and 21 shots with 4 on target. Hmmm And 12 corners. But ONE GOAL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, The Cat said: Fair result. We played pretty well and had chances but the final ball wasn't quite there. Was a good second half with both teams going for the win. Yes, a frustrating but fair result - Norwich always had that counter attacking threat while Saints produced many opportunities without the clinical finishing. A little surprised that Alcaraz wasn't brought on earlier, ideally instead of Smallbone who just doesn't have that sharp attacking instinct or athleticism. Hope the Edozie injury isn't too bad - the Norwich defender was lucky not to be red carded. AA was busy all night, Stu and Airibo both just a little down on their best; Harwood-Bellis again impressive and a lovely assist from KWP. I'm guessing Bednarek picked up a knock in being replaced - Stephens looked better when switched to CB. Flynn Downes looked knackered late in the game. In the end, a good point and a great festive haul - it just feels frustrating having got to 1-0 so late in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Can’t win ‘em all. Didn’t enjoy the first half set up, looked much more solid second half. Their goal was weak and after sloppy play by us, tbf we always looked vulnerable on the break and we played into their hands. Not a bad result though. Hopefully Edozie’s injury was just an impact one and won’t be too serious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Should have done waaaaaay more with the chances created and general dominance today. Carrow Road is fucking haunted though so I would have taken a point before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Definitely feels like 2 points dropped. Che could have and possibly should have made it 2-0 and they went straight up the other end and equalised. You could definitely argue that the challenge on Edozie was a red card too, which would have changed the game. Both sides had their chances to win it though and both just as wasteful infront of goal. Edited January 1 by RedArmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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