Russell Martin snubs Rishi Sunak

[Fan The Flames]

  On 30/12/2023 at 13:33, AlexLaw76 said:

Then why say he would have nothing to say to him? Is he like that before / after games with autograph hunters? Saying that, the way he dismisses legitimate fan comments at fans forum, he probably would ignore the average joe if he could.

It was clearly a semi-political jibe, which was quite sad really.

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He was probably irritated by the question, it's a mid season football match not the Sunak circus, he said he wasn't there to chat because he's concentrating on the game and his job. Then he mentions his politics, which happens to differ from yours, big deal. You and others are making way too much of this.

[Nemi]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:51, Sir Ralph said:

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1. My post referred to being professional AT WORK - am I writing in a professional capacity?

2. My post was not disrespectful it was voicing a measured opinion in a PERSONAL capacity 

3. My imaginary scenario wasn’t discrediting the manger - I was outlining the scenario that Sunak did the equivalent to Martin to demonstrate how UNPROFESSIONAL it would be

 

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Your imaginary scenario was saying that Martin essentially said he’s unwelcome. Your making things up and now clearly getting riled up for being called out about it

[Charlie Wayman]

  On 30/12/2023 at 13:19, SambaMaverick said:

Top bloke Russell

Sunak stay away - wanker

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You utter dopey tit!

Mr Sunak has been a Saints supporter all his life and despite being PM and all the nonsense that surrounds that job turns up to watch us in the Championship on a dark, dank Friday night at the uncivilised time of 6.00pm.

Russell Martin is being paid handsomely for the job he is doing but it could be the same job for any one of a dozen clubs. He is lucky that he has inherited the squad that he is working with. Saints supporter he is not and never will be!

Sheffield Wednesday have a better chance of reaching the play-offs than the Tories have of getting my vote at the next election by the way

 

[stevy777_x]

To all you non tories here, I don’t share the same political views as you and I have no interest in having a conversation about football or say hello to you.

See what I did there? That s exactly what Russel did yesterday 

 

[The Kraken]

  On 30/12/2023 at 13:58, stevy777_x said:

To all you non tories here, I don’t share the same political views as you and I have no interest in having a conversation about football or say hello to you.

See what I did there? That s exactly what Russel did yesterday 

 

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There really is no need for you to be so upset about this whole thing. But here we are. Such snowflake behaviour.

[East Kent Saint]

Mountain And molehill,  yet again,  although I'm pretty sure our PM was trying to appear to be an ordinary multi millionaire being with the people 🙂

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 13:31, Fan The Flames said:

Did you not read the whole quote, "but I know he’s a fan and I hope he enjoyed watching the team".

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No. The only quote at the time I'd heard was the first snippet of the interview. I acknowledge what Martin said after that, perhaps if he had just said that, then this debate would be null and void. 

[SotonianWill]

Football shouldn’t be mixed with politics so to see the saints TL last night filled with F*ck the Tories sentiment instead of football discussion is frustrating whatever your politics.

[Tommy]

Honestly I’d put up a Martin statue for that. I’ve no love for the Tory’s, but especially one that stabs his friends in the back to further his own ambitions. Sunak is a man of zero integrity and loyalty. 

[Wade Garrett]

  On 30/12/2023 at 08:58, Guided Missile said:

It's about respecting the office of the Prime Minister and a born and bred Saints fan. Basic good manners and representing the club in a positive way. Why the fuck is there so much hate from the left. He's a green twat and will regret this.

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And I’m sure if it was PM Tony Blair the manager was supposedly snubbing you would feel equally indignant.

Fucking boring cunt.

[iansums]

Disrespectful, it's what you often see from those on the left. As a Tory voter I would be perfectly civil to a Labour PM.

[iansums]

  On 30/12/2023 at 15:53, Wade Garrett said:

And I’m sure if it was PM Tony Blair the manager was supposedly snubbing you would feel equally indignant.

Fucking boring cunt.

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Maybe he would, I know I would. Your post shows how much respect you have for other peoples opinions.

[badgerx16]

  On 30/12/2023 at 15:55, iansums said:

Disrespectful, it's what you often see from those on the left.

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What a blinkered and misguided comment.

What exactly did RM do that was disrespectful ? It's not as if Sunak asked to meet him and RM told him to fuck off.

[Farmer Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 08:47, Guided Missile said:

He's another chippy prick like Nigel Pearson. I have a feeling his career will take the same trajectory as his, especially if we fail to get promoted.

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You OK hun? You seem to be getting very angry about this? Who cares what he thinks about our PM, he's a corrupt fool. 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by Farmer Saint

[kitch]

  On 30/12/2023 at 08:47, Lee On Solent Saint said:

. Judging by Caroline Dinniege's comments, Sunak gets a fair amount of stick from other local MP's because of his Saints connections

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Of course she'd say that, she's a pompey fan!

[Dusic]

Don't see the issue with it. RM hasnt hidden his political views, wasn't rude and gave an honest answer to a fairly wanky question.

Would rather have a manager who actually has a view than a sap who gives non answers to every question they are asked (see Eddie Howe for example who has been pathetic on the Saudi related questions).

And WTF was that camera about - laughable.

[revolution saint]

Sunak had a lucky escape if you ask me. RM would have controlled 90% of a conversation that didn’t go anywhere or produce anything meaningful.

And before anyone gets too upset, it’s a joke and I don’t really mean it. 

[Convict Colony]

Guys democracy is a failed concept.

[Farmer Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 15:55, iansums said:

Disrespectful, it's what you often see from those on the left. As a Tory voter I would be perfectly civil to a Labour PM.

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I don't think it's disrespectful - surely respect is a 2 way street? I don't think anything Sunak has done deserves respect from Russ, Southampton, or frankly anyone. He's an unelected, odious, cretin of an individual.

[Saint Matty 76]

  On 30/12/2023 at 12:54, Cabrone said:

It was a graceless response from RM, we don't need to know your politics just show some manners towards a guest who is a genuine Saints fan. BTW I'd say the same about any other politician regardless of their party.

Besides which, the amount of money Sunak has he could be a future owner. The guy is loaded.

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I wouldn't want him anywhere near the club regardless of the amount of money he possesses. 

The guy is vermin and the fact that people are upset about RM's completely watered down comments is hilarious.

Horrible bloke who showed up to the game for nothing other than PR and has been made to look even more of a fool than he makes himself every time he has to shed an opinion, good stuff. The kind of manager I want in charge of my club.

[dronskisaint01]

  On 30/12/2023 at 12:13, Ken Tone said:

Never mind Martin's reaction to Sunak's visit..... we were pissed off because the car parks and roads next to the stadium were closed off for half an hour for him to leave. All the roads, because no one told the stewards which route he was taking. There were some fairly strong 'political' comments made in the queue of cars near us!   '😉

Not had this delay when he's been before.

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This - I'd been sat in traffic leading up to the Itchen Bridge and had already been more delayed than normal when police motor bikes came past, shut all the entrances and exits to the bridge with their poncey whistles and gestures to let at least 3 blacked out vehicles, a van and more motor bikes go past at speed. I suspect I was one of the large number of people who loudly expressed their opinion, both political and anger at the waste of time and money involved.

Now - personally I'm embarrassed by the fact that he declares his support for us but no more than I am by some of the other fascistic, xenophobic and racist supporters around the stadium but I do object to the fact that he uses us as an 'don't I have the common touch' media vehicle and then used taxpayers money and police resources to rub in how utterly far from the truth that is.

I despise his politics, he's not been elected by anyone other than a few blue-rinses and I applaud that our manager has the guts not to be sycophantic about his presence...and his honesty in answering as he did.

[Saint_clark]

Not sure I really care about whether he does or doesn't speak to Sunak, but the "how's that for honesty?" comment made me roll my eyes. Very smug thing to say, yeah well done Russell you didn't talk to him cos you don't like his politics, ok.

[rallyboy]

Hello, is that the Twat Farm? I think you must have had a fence come down over Christmas, yes, there's a few running wild again...

[Long Shot]

  On 30/12/2023 at 15:55, iansums said:

Disrespectful, it's what you often see from those on the left. As a Tory voter I would be perfectly civil to a Labour PM.

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Fair play to you for even admitting you vote Tory (even taking into account you are anonymous)

[Long Shot]

  On 30/12/2023 at 17:04, Saint_clark said:

Not sure I really care about whether he does or doesn't speak to Sunak, but the "how's that for honesty?" comment made me roll my eyes. Very smug thing to say, yeah well done Russell you didn't talk to him cos you don't like his politics, ok.

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Fair enough. The Tories (this bunch anyway) have literally ripped the country off while ruining it at the same time. A man is prepared to stand up and be counted and you deem that to be smug? Oh well. 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 30/12/2023 at 10:13, sadoldgit said:

Talking of respect, how much respect did Sunak show this country when he “lost” all of those WhatsApp messages during the Covid pandemic?

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To be honest I think Martin's comments were a bit disrespectful, but respect has to be earned. We need to be real about the fact that regardless of party leanings, Sunak has been degrading the role of PM and politics just like Johnson.

The above is just the most obvious example. Here's some more:

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2023/12/19/sunak-may-have-undermined-trust-with-claims-to-have-reduced-debt--watchdog/

https://fullfact.org/news/claire-coutinho-labour-meat-tax/

https://news.sky.com/story/tories-urged-to-delete-social-media-labour-attack-post-featuring-swearing-bbc-newsreader-13025141

Edited 30 December, 2023 by Ex Lion Tamer

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 30/12/2023 at 11:01, pingpong said:

This is quite a coincidence. I sell sofas, and wanted to go congratulate the players last week, but russell said sofas had nothing to do with the football and didn't let me see them. I felt snubbed but it didn't make the papers.

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The commentary in the WBA game said their manager had removed all of the comfy chairs in the meeting rooms. The more basic, uncomfortable chairs, he feels, makes the players more attentive, as they can't settle.

I think there are also plenty of questions about seating on the bench. Are those chairs optimally designed to protect players from any niggles coming on? Are the players attentive to the match, or just too comfy? Just as importantly, why do so many players, coming off injured, go straight to sit on the same chairs? Surely more could be done to aid their recovery by having better chair/ seating options for them?

It's a disgrace that the club snubbed your valuable, and potentially game changing, contributions.

They are a lot more relevant that whatever club a politician happens to support, or whatever political party a club employee happens to support.

[Wade Garrett]

  On 30/12/2023 at 15:58, iansums said:

Maybe he would, I know I would. Your post shows how much respect you have for other peoples opinions.

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This is a football message board not a political one.  Plus GM is on a massive wind-up, so wind your neck in.

[iansums]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:12, Wade Garrett said:

This is a football message board not a political one.  Plus GM is on a massive wind-up, so wind your neck in.

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So calling him a fucking cunt is fine is it? Nice

[Challenger]

'kin box office this thread, bloody marvellous.

Not been so entertained since grandad caught his cock in the mangle back in the 60,s.

Any chance of someone inviting Corbyn to one of our gigs before the season's end so we can do another one ?

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:31, Challenger said:

'kin box office this thread, bloody marvellous.

Not been so entertained since grandad caught his cock in the mangle back in the 60,s.

Any chance of someone inviting Corbyn to one of our gigs before the season's end so we can do another one ?

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Please don’t. The scar tissue is still painful.

[Saint_clark]

  On 30/12/2023 at 17:46, Long Shot said:

Fair enough. The Tories (this bunch anyway) have literally ripped the country off while ruining it at the same time. A man is prepared to stand up and be counted and you deem that to be smug? Oh well. 

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"Stand up and be counted" FFS. Yeah, Martin has lit the touch paper on the revolution with his comments.

[iansums]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:31, Challenger said:

'kin box office this thread, bloody marvellous.

Not been so entertained since grandad caught his cock in the mangle back in the 60,s.

Any chance of someone inviting Corbyn to one of our gigs before the season's end so we can do another one ?

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Any photos?

[whelk]

  On 30/12/2023 at 14:09, The Kraken said:

There really is no need for you to be so upset about this whole thing. But here we are. Such snowflake behaviour.

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There will be 100% correlation between those that got enraged by Martin and those that froth about Gary Lineker tweets. As you say snowflakes and I can guess what newspapers they read

[manji]

  On 30/12/2023 at 10:08, for_heaven's_Saint said:

Fuck Sunak. He doesn’t give a shit about Saints, just trying his hardest to look like a normal bloke before an election year.

Well done Martin for not buying it. 

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Spot on. There’s quite a few videos of Sunak making a twat of himself. A great one of him going into a convenience store. He clearly wasn’t used to handling cash and then when he eventually tried to hand the money over doesn’t realise there a plastic security screen in front of him.

His parents are Saints Supporters but he doesn’t even like football he is a cricket fan though.

[badgerx16]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:48, iansums said:

Any photos?

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You are on the Internet asking for photos of an old man with his knob caught in a mangle. Is this really the persona you want to portray in a public forum ?

Edited 30 December, 2023 by badgerx16

[ChrisPY]

This thread is the bestest. I love Rishi and love Russell so think it’s so cool that they both get so much chat.

Go Saints. Up the Saints. We all love the red and white even if your politics are blue (or green lol).

Top thread. Oh when the Saints go marching in.

[iansums]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:57, badgerx16 said:

Tou are on the Internet asking for photos of an old man with his knob caught in a mangle. Is this really the persona you want to portray in a public forum ?

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Yes

[Bad Wolf]

Good on him.

As advised though, the how's that for honesty was a bit petty. A simple "I don't want to meet him but hope he enjoyed the game" would have done. 

[Maggie May]

Best thread on here for ages. 

[whelk]

  On 30/12/2023 at 19:14, Maggie May said:

Best thread on here for ages. 

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There’s a good one in the lounge giving Batman tips to stop cats shitting in his garden

[Sir Ralph]

  On 30/12/2023 at 13:54, Nemi said:

Your imaginary scenario was saying that Martin essentially said he’s unwelcome. Your making things up and now clearly getting riled up for being called out about it

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You are obviously very intelligent and 100% right - well done.

Edited 30 December, 2023 by Sir Ralph

[aintforever]

Beginning to really like this Martin fella.

[The Cat]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:56, manji said:

His parents are Saints Supporters but he doesn’t even like football he is a cricket fan though.

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To be fair to him I have heard on good authority that he does actually support Saints. It's not his sporting passion, because that is cricket, but he certainly knows enough and follows results to the extent that you could call him a fan.

Would love it if he had a login on here, ha.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 30/12/2023 at 19:42, The Cat said:

To be fair to him I have heard on good authority that he does actually support Saints. It's not his sporting passion, because that is cricket, but he certainly knows enough and follows results to the extent that you could call him a fan.

Would love it if he had a login on here, ha.

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Could be anybody to be fair.

Might even be me 😳

[farawaysaint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 19:45, Whitey Grandad said:

Could be anybody to be fair.

Might even be me 😳

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If Sunak named himself “whitey” I’m pretty sure it’s some form of hate crime and I’m suing. 

[losgigantes]

So disrespectful! 

Sunak was a true supporter long before Russell Martin and will be a supporter long after he is long forgotten.

That statement says more about Martin than we need to know but confirms what some of us suspect.

Sport and politics do not mix.

[The Kraken]

  On 30/12/2023 at 20:01, losgigantes said:

So disrespectful! 

Sunak was a true supporter long before Russell Martin and will be a supporter long after he is long forgotten.

That statement says more about Martin than we need to know but confirms what some of us suspect.

Sport and politics do not mix.

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Cracking first post fella 🤣

[Farmer Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 18:48, iansums said:

Any photos?

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[Yorkshire Saint]

  On 30/12/2023 at 20:03, The Kraken said:

Cracking first post fella 🤣

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17 years after 1st joining 🤔