sadoldgit Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Not WP but I raise you Forbes Phillipson-Masters.... He used to be a standing joke with an Arsenal fan I used to work with. He would say that was our three in midfield. The joke soon wore off, but not for him sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Double-barrelled names used to be thought by many people to indicate a more 'upper class' background. These days it's just as likely to mean that the person's parents weren't married. There is another category which tends to be woman only - people who have become known to the public by their maiden name and retain that name but linked to their partner's name when the marry. JWP is probably in a different category of double-barrelled name to KWP but I stand to be corrected by anyone who knows better. This is true.....look back at most sitcoms from the 60`s/70`s and generally speaking any "posh" person had a double-barrelled name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 This is true.....look back at most sitcoms from the 60`s/70`s and generally speaking any "posh" person had a double-barrelled name. Fashion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Double-barrelled names used to be thought by many people to indicate a more 'upper class' background. These days it's just as likely to mean that the person's parents weren't married. There is another category which tends to be woman only - people who have become known to the public by their maiden name and retain that name but linked to their partner's name when the marry. JWP is probably in a different category of double-barrelled name to KWP but I stand to be corrected by anyone who knows better. My wife wanted to keep her maiden name as the first part of a double-barrelled name with mine, but my surname is one of my only legacies in life so she agreed to take it. In the end she was just glad to stop being Miss Cock and become Mrs Sucker. Anyway is KWP going to happen soon or do I have to refresh all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 In 20 years time it will be quadruple barrelled names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 In 20 years time it will be quadruple barrelled names He'll probably have something different on his shirt anyway. His first name or nickname or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 He'll probably have something different on his shirt anyway. His first name or nickname or something. I was conceived by my parents at a group orgy so my name is Phillip brown-Harris-Biggs- smith-Phillips can’t see what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 (edited) Done Yep https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2020-01-29/announcement-southampton-football-club-kyle-walker-peters-loan?fbclid=IwAR0Xg6m91mExu1kujbdwaX5aMx5K52oE79DqsQU3VzE9KPkEnF6DdIjo17s Will he be more Ryan Bertrand or Stephen O'Halloran? Edited 29 January, 2020 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Just seen on FB it's a done deal. Welcome to Saints KWP! That should placate a few of our persistent moaners...oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 -- Redundant post -- Please delete mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 No option is just baffling really. Lets hope he does well but not that well I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 No option is just baffling really. Lets hope he does well but not that well I guess! Is he worth 15m? We couldn’t agree fee with Levy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 The sort of signing that would be the last line of a Beeb article had we signed someone permanently on the same day! Still I think he’ll surprise a few people, I just hope we don’t get to summer and regret not getting the option after he comes good for us. Hopefully whatever happens he’ll still be surplus to requirements at Spurs and the option won’t matter if we want to buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 In 20 years time it will be quadruple barrelled names Talking of which, I thought Joshua Ishaele Jacob-Heron Hunt-Laurent looked a bloody good player for Shrewsbury in the game against Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Very good signing this! Welcome onboard Kyle Is there definatley no option to buy? Probably Levy playing hardball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 No option is just baffling really. Lets hope he does well but not that well I guess! My thoughts exactly. Don't get why we've only taken him on loan. I guess it can only be because we won't have a RB when Soares goes to Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Maybe the plan is to get him on on loan, make sure he fits in with our system, likes being at the club & then carry on the negotiations, during the loan, for a permanent deal if all's good? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Or maybe our first choice isn’t available until the summer so KWP is a stop gap also allowing us to get a fee in for Cédric too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Maybe the plan is to get him on on loan, make sure he fits in with our system, likes being at the club & then carry on the negotiations, during the loan, for a permanent deal if all's good? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Or maybe we just can't afford it/don't think he's worth that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Is he worth 15m? We couldn’t agree fee with Levy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Let’s see now we know the price and gives us some time while scouting and finding prices of other targets with KWP as a benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Given his lack of games probably didn't want to be stiffed with obligation to buy for a big fee and levy probably didn't want to give us simple option to buy. From the sounds he's more versatile on the left than cedricwhich will help. If valery returns looking sharp and bertrand stays fit I'd hope kwp spends most of his time warming the bench cushions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 so, we are still having to shift players to bring him in. got rid of 1 right back to bring another in. incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 My thoughts exactly. Don't get why we've only taken him on loan. I guess it can only be because we won't have a RB when Soares goes to Arsenal. Because it's Tottenham. Levy clearly wanted a ridiculous fee - which in fairness to him, he got for the likes of Kevin Wimmer and a few others I can't think of right now. I was rather hoping this was a signing as a way of covering our shortage of full backs. But if Cedric leaves that suggests he is the new RB and we haven't improved our cover situation at all. Slightly concerning but not wholly surprising. My friend (Spurs fan) said he seems like a good lad and is technically good but is pretty slow, short and weak. Funnily enough after we beat them 2-1 last season he asked me if Redmond was really fast because he was leaving KWP for dead every time. I had to inform that Redmond isn't particularly fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 No option is just baffling really. Lets hope he does well but not that well I guess! They may not have offered one. Or wanted daft money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Don’t really get this deal. 1 he doesn’t really seem that great anyway 2 if he does turn out great Tottenham can either keep him or slap the price right up. I know he’s young but all we get is crying like babies that we can’t shift our squad players but seem happy enough to take other teams squad players off their hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Or maybe we just can't afford it/don't think he's worth that Maybe we can't afford his wages. I read he is on £100k,not sure I believe that but there you are. He's also not fit to play yet, and not eligible for the Spurs replay. Will he be ready for Burnley on 15/2? The blurb from the club says he is being brought in to strengthen, but how can that be if Cedric is being loaned to Arse? Something just doesn't add up here. Happy to see Kyle Leonardus join but not sure what is going on and whether it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Would be great if he scores/ makes the goal that puts us above spurs at end of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Don’t really get this deal. 1 he doesn’t really seem that great anyway 2 if he does turn out great Tottenham can either keep him or slap the price right up. I know he’s young but all we get is crying like babies that we can’t shift our squad players but seem happy enough to take other teams squad players off their hands Think its about getting Cedric off the books, KWP fitting our profile and us hoping that a few good months -if he does well for us- won't significantly change his valuation (given his lack of an overall track record). The fact is that the summer transfer window is much better for buyers than sellers and there will be other options available. Levy has very little leverage now or in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 so, we are still having to shift players to bring him in. got rid of 1 right back to bring another in. incredible Don’t you think Cedric for 5m is good business? KWP can cover both sides Cedric was terrible at left back against Bournemouth. Valery is said to be near fitness Don’t expect you to see the positives you never do Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 My friend (Spurs fan) said he seems like a good lad and is technically good but is pretty slow, short and weak. That's pretty much word for word what I told my Villa supporting mate when they signed Matt Targett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Don’t you think Cedric for 5m is good business? KWP can cover both sides Cedric was terrible at left back against Bournemouth. Valery is said to be near fitness Don’t expect you to see the positives you never do . Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s not £5m though. That figure includes the net reduction of his wages off our books between now and the end of his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Don’t you think Cedric for 5m is good business? KWP can cover both sides Cedric was terrible at left back against Bournemouth. Valery is said to be near fitness Don’t expect you to see the positives you never do Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's not £5m. It's £5m Inc the wages we won't be paying. If he's on £70k pw for another 20 weeks we're seeing about £3.5m for the player. They'll be a loan fee for KWP I'd imagine, and agents fees to pay on both deals. Looking at all of that, the net gain will be minimal, and we'll have replaced a proven RB with an unproven one with no fit RB to cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 (edited) We are still 5m better off aren’t we whether wages or loan fee? It’s posted that Valery is close to returning maybe after Tottenham? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 29 January, 2020 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Don’t you think Cedric for 5m is good business? KWP can cover both sides Cedric was terrible at left back against Bournemouth. Valery is said to be near fitness Don’t expect you to see the positives you never do Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Seems reasonable to me. Move on a player the manager has never overly fancied who was leaving in the summer anyway and who is injured. Even if it’s not 5m saved once you factor in kwp lower wages and loan fee it will help in the summer given we’ve an owner with no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 (edited) We are still 5m better off aren’t we whether wages or loan fee? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Err, no. We will be paying the new RB’s wages and knowing Levy’s reputation probably 100%. We might / probably are paying a loan fee to Spurs too. Edit: The Telegraph are reporting the loan fee from Arsenal is......... Edited 29 January, 2020 by Greenridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 (edited) Don’t really get this deal. 1 he doesn’t really seem that great anyway 2 if he does turn out great Tottenham can either keep him or slap the price right up. I know he’s young but all we get is crying like babies that we can’t shift our squad players but seem happy enough to take other teams squad players off their handsThe deal is we have no cover for our full backs. If Bertrand and soares are out together for any length of time then we will get murdered. We get some cover which at least means soares and Bertrand don't have to play every single game and spurs get some development for a player. Hopefully win win. Edit just seen we are getting rid of soares as well. Not great. Ah well at least we are unlikely to be relegated. Edited 29 January, 2020 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Isn’t every finishing position worth extra c£2m? So could be very false economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Someone needs to tell Goa that Les and Wee Ross are no longer around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Never been that impressed with him but willing to give him a go. Poch must have seen something to keep him around. Don't think we have any intention of making it permanent mind you. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Like the fact he can cover both sides. Don’t like the fact he’s going to be first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Cedric off to the Arse on loan apparently. Weird window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 KWP will be cup tied, surely? So who are we playing RB against Spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 so, we are still having to shift players to bring him in. got rid of 1 right back to bring another in. incredible The Arsenal interest in Cedric has only just surfaced whereas we have been in for KWP for a while so I don’t think that is the case. It looks more like a case of shifting someone who is currently injured and is off at the end of the season out now. If we were that desperate for cash surely we would have offloaded Adams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Cedric off to the Arse on loan apparently. Weird window Yep - just don’t get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 The Arsenal interest in Cedric has only just surfaced whereas we have been in for KWP for a while so I don’t think that is the case. It looks more like a case of shifting someone who is currently injured and is off at the end of the season out now. If we were that desperate for cash surely we would have offloaded Adams? My guess is we were originally in for kwp because we thought Valery was out for longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Isn’t every finishing position worth extra c£2m? So could be very false economy In our last six league games without Cedric, we drew 1, lost 5 and conceded 18 goals. So, unless Walker-Peters slots in immediately and proves to be just as good as Cedric, this move could cost the club millions of pounds in lost league prize money. Kat and Gao are letting their greed get the better of them because their short term gain of a few hundred thousand pounds could very well turn into a loss of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 The Arsenal interest in Cedric has only just surfaced whereas we have been in for KWP for a while so I don’t think that is the case. It looks more like a case of shifting someone who is currently injured and is off at the end of the season out now. If we were that desperate for cash surely we would have offloaded Adams? Adams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Isn’t every finishing position worth extra c£2m? So could be very false economy Exactly. Not to mention weakening us in a potential cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Cedric off to the Arse on loan apparently. Weird windowDo I not like that....! Sent from my SM-T590 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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