The Cat Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 Weird this buy back clause hasn't been mentioned before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Ornstien claiming he has a £30m release clause, pretty dreadful business from saints if that’s true, Seems to be a buy back clause for Spurs rather than a release clause. Be surprised if he went back there - if they were that interested they’d have signed him this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Seems to be a buy back clause for Spurs rather than a release clause. Be surprised if he went back there - if they were that interested they’d have signed him this summer. I think their priority is Djed Spence for £20m. Unless they seem him as a LB...as they've put Sergio Regulion up for sale weirdly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 Just now, S-Clarke said: I think their priority is Djed Spence for £20m. Unless they seem him as a LB...as they've put Sergio Regulion up for sale weirdly. This is what I mean, they’re happy to spend £20m on someone whose only ever played championship when they could (apparently) get KWP for a mere £10m more. Think Perisic will play LWB for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: This is what I mean, they’re happy to spend £20m on someone whose only ever played championship when they could (apparently) get KWP for a mere £10m more. Think Perisic will play LWB for them. Oh yeah, good shout on Perisic, keep forgetting they signed him. So yeah....can't see anything in the Spurs stuff being a goer. The £10-15m 'offers' from Everton were laughable, we're not bundled into a corner as he still has 3 years on his contract. Feels like agents playing the media here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 Surely given the fact they ripped us off for Hojbjerg, I can’t believe we also included a buy back clause, especially so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 Anyone but spuds.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Unless they seem him as a LB...as they've put Sergio Regulion up for sale weirdly. He's been crap for them under Conte. Doherty, before he got injured, and Sessegnon have been the go-to LWB's for Spurs. And now they've signed the versatile Perisic who played the role at Inter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Oh yeah, good shout on Perisic, keep forgetting they signed him. So yeah....can't see anything in the Spurs stuff being a goer. The £10-15m 'offers' from Everton were laughable, we're not bundled into a corner as he still has 3 years on his contract. Feels like agents playing the media here. after a couple of outstanding seasons, he (agent led) will probably want paying. I'd of thought we'd be happy to extend, we may well have already tried, but I'm sure the agent would want £100k a week and that might be too rich for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Badger said: Especially if there's a buy back clause as he was a player spurs were looking to get shot of at the time with no future there. But - £30m for KWP, and Feyenoord looking for c £8m for Pedersen, you can see how the club might view it. The downside of course being KWP's versatility to play both RB & lb. Although I think I read somewhere Livramento can play both sides too? So when he's back from injury if we sign a right back we'd still have the option of him switching sides. Sure I read that somewhere... I'd still be surprised if KWP goes anywhere yet. He's getting the regular game time he wants and has been recognised Internationally. Would he get regular game time back at Spurs? No. Would he at Everton? Sure but they haven't got a pot to piss in so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Although I think I read somewhere Livramento can play both sides too? So when he's back from injury if we sign a right back we'd still have the option of him switching sides. Sure I read that somewhere... I'd still be surprised if KWP goes anywhere yet. He's getting the regular game time he wants and has been recognised Internationally. Would he get regular game time back at Spurs? No. Would he at Everton? Sure but they haven't got a pot to piss in so... Why whats wrong with Evertons money flow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Roo1976 said: Why whats wrong with Evertons money flow? Their main money man has been sanctioned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 (edited) Seems odd that we'd go down the loan with option to buy route, and then include a buy back clause for spurs. Bad news if this is the case however. Edited 10 July, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 19 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Seems odd that we'd go down the loan with option to buy route, and then include a buy back clause for spurs. Bad news if this is the case however. I know it's his boyhood club, but if not deemed good enough for them two years ago, why would you want to go back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I know it's his boyhood club, but if not deemed good enough for them two years ago, why would you want to go back? Ask Danny Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 3 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Please don’t sell Kwp saints .. please 🙏🏻 There could be no better statement of intent by SR than to keep and re-negotiate KWP's contract to better reflect that he has been our best player for most of the two past seasons - JWP dead ball skills aside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 1 hour ago, austsaint said: There could be no better statement of intent by SR than to keep and re-negotiate KWP's contract to better reflect that he has been our best player for most of the two past seasons - JWP dead ball skills aside. What if he simply doesn't want to sign? He'll be looking for a move to a Champions League club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 July, 2022 Share Posted 10 July, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: What if he simply doesn't want to sign? He'll be looking for a move to a Champions League club Maybe - it's not going to be Everton then, is it. Any "unrest" is more likely to be about money though - assuming he is probably on 45 - 50k given his unproven track record upon leaving Spurs. JWP being on 100k plus and KWP earning less than half doesn't strike me as reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 There's an awful lot of depressive speculation about KWP on here but honest folks he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Why would he? First or second on the team sheet every week and that won't change in the foreseeable future nor has there been any sign of grumblings from the man himself. Of course other teams would like him and they know our history as a selling club so a bit of sh*t stirring* here and there by club's agents is intended to sow seeds of doubt within the player's mind and those of fans as well. By swallowing this bait hook, line and sinker fans on here are falling into the trap of creating a febrile atmosphere designed to undermine the player's temperament. Stay positive folks and let their* little game play out without reaction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 He was quoted as saying he’s very happy here and enjoying his football. I really hope this is all paper talk and we’re not looking to sell, just doesn’t make sense he’s a fantastic player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurj Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 37 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: There's an awful lot of depressive speculation about KWP on here but honest folks he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Why would he? First or second on the team sheet every week and that won't change in the foreseeable future nor has there been any sign of grumblings from the man himself. Of course other teams would like him and they know our history as a selling club so a bit of sh*t stirring* here and there by club's agents is intended to sow seeds of doubt within the player's mind and those of fans as well. By swallowing this bait hook, line and sinker fans on here are falling into the trap of creating a febrile atmosphere designed to undermine the player's temperament. Stay positive folks and let their* little game play out without reaction. I have a feeling he is off. The reason perhaps why we are linked to so many RB's and buying some that can play there and everywhere. I would be very surprised if we kept spending so much without someone big on the way out to help fund it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 To me it reads like agent talk, wanting to get him a better contract here. And in my view, he deserves a new deal. I expect the conclusion, a bit like with all the JWP stuff last year, will be he signs a 5 year deal and everyone is happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Gurj said: I have a feeling he is off. The reason perhaps why we are linked to so many RB's and buying some that can play there and everywhere. I would be very surprised if we kept spending so much without someone big on the way out to help fund it. None of us knows but I think he'll go next summer and we're looking at blooding his replacement now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 We need to pay him what he is worth - must be niggling for him knowing how much players like Theo are on. Offer him a contract for more realistic money and get him tied to the club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Several reports saying United and arsenal sniffing around as well as other clubs, he's one we can't afford to lose in my opinion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Several reports saying United and arsenal sniffing around as well as other clubs, he's one we can't afford to lose in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Our best player IMO. We need to keep him unless a big club comes in with some ridiculous offer. £75 Million minimum, obviously no one's going to pay that so the other option is keeping him 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Our best player IMO. We need to keep him unless a big club comes in with some ridiculous offer. £75 Million minimum, obviously no one's going to pay that so the other option is keeping him I wouldn't sell him for less than £150m. United paid £50m for a crap right back AWB 3 years ago, KWP is miles better than him, prices have gone up, plus we dont need to sell as got 3 years left on his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 If we play our cards right in the negotiations I think we could make KWP the game's first billion pound player 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I wouldn't sell him for less than £150m. United paid £50m for a crap right back AWB 3 years ago, KWP is miles better than him, prices have gone up, plus we dont need to sell as got 3 years left on his contract. I’d be tempted to have a conversation at least if they offered £149M plus AwB. We could then hopefully get AwB back on form by offering him an arm round the shoulder (he likes that,apparently, not the hair dryer treatment he’s rumoured to have been copping for from Solsjaer (sp) and whoever that Dutch bloke was they had in charge afterwards). That way we effectively replace KWP for nothing and have £149M spare to improve the squad in other areas. Edited 11 July, 2022 by stknowle 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 8 minutes ago, stknowle said: I’d be tempted to have a conversation at least if they offered £149M plus AwB. We could then hopefully get AwB back on form by offering him an arm round the shoulder (he likes that,apparently, not the hair dryer treatment he’s rumoured to have been copping for from Solsjaer (sp) and whoever that Dutch bloke was they had in charge afterwards). That way we effectively replace KWP for nothing and have £149M spare to improve the squad in other areas. I definitely think AWB is ripe for rehabilitation - tactically United have been a joke and he'll thrive in a better organised team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Shite stirring from his agent via their new mouthpiece the athletic, 3 years on his contract still its a non story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said: 3 years on his contract still its a non story. Not if Spurs decide to activate a release clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, stknowle said: I’d be tempted to have a conversation at least if they offered £149M plus AwB. We could then hopefully get AwB back on form by offering him an arm round the shoulder (he likes that,apparently, not the hair dryer treatment he’s rumoured to have been copping for from Solsjaer (sp) and whoever that Dutch bloke was they had in charge afterwards). That way we effectively replace KWP for nothing and have £149M spare to improve the squad in other areas. Reckon we should try and get Ronaldo as well. He wants out would love the challenge of coming to us as our main striker which we need. As they'd save his wages then i reckon they might give us another £20m to take him so we'll be in for £169k + AWB and Ronaldo. Good deal IMO. We cover Ronaldos wages by increased shirts and hot dog sales Edited 11 July, 2022 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Didn't the United CEO come out and say money is not an issue... Use that and start bidding at £60m if they want him. For the record I think KWP is an excellent full-back, certainly one of our best players but not CL level or title winning quality just yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Just set the starting price at £70m and the stories will evaporate. He’s worth that to us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 5 hours ago, Turkish said: Reckon we should try and get Ronaldo as well. He wants out would love the challenge of coming to us as our main striker which we need. As they'd save his wages then i reckon they might give us another £20m to take him so we'll be in for £169k + AWB and Ronaldo. Good deal IMO. We cover Ronaldos wages by increased shirts and hot dog sales It's a plan, but does Ralph rate him at defending corners? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 6 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Not if Spurs decide to activate a release clause. Could Spurs activate the release clause, and then immediately sell him on for a fat profit to someone else…? Sort of thing you might expect from them….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 Not if he didn't want to go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 11 July, 2022 Share Posted 11 July, 2022 All these reports read as is they can come in and just take him off us even Everton for 15 million. Not one report has mentioned he actually wants to leave or we want to sell. It’s time we shook this look, SR have said we don’t need to sell anyone, clearly we have money but don’t want to advertise it to inflate prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 12 July, 2022 Share Posted 12 July, 2022 (edited) We need the club or the player to just shut this shit down. This distraction really is doing us no favours. One step forward, and two back. Never easy here is it. Edited 12 July, 2022 by LiberalCommunist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 July, 2022 Share Posted 12 July, 2022 It's only a distraction if the players actually pay any attention to it. We had JWP rumours earlier on, they seem to have just drifted away. He's probably another contract renewal that needs doing and if not then I reckon he'll get sold next year when he has two years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 13 July, 2022 Share Posted 13 July, 2022 Looks like spurs have a 30 million buy back clause in KWPs contract a lot of our players do so not a great strategy in my opinion but at least guaranteed money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 July, 2022 Share Posted 14 July, 2022 14 hours ago, Mr X said: not a great strategy in my opinion If it gives us more chance to buy the better younger players at top clubs then I'm for it. If they activate the clause then it means they have been a success. Remember when KWP signed he was still relatively unproven, think he had only played 10 or so games when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 14 July, 2022 Share Posted 14 July, 2022 I find it slightly odd that all our buy backs like on Tino, Lavia etc. have been reported at the time of purchase. But this one apparently no one has mentioned until now? £30 million also seems to low considering we paid around £12 million for him, Tino's is over £40 million for a £5 million purchase, Lavia's is more like £50 million apparently and he was bought for around the same price as KWP, so I don't know either the club has mucked up here and for some odd reason no one reported the clause, or this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 17 July, 2022 Share Posted 17 July, 2022 On 14/07/2022 at 07:04, tajjuk said: I find it slightly odd that all our buy backs like on Tino, Lavia etc. have been reported at the time of purchase. But this one apparently no one has mentioned until now? £30 million also seems to low considering we paid around £12 million for him, Tino's is over £40 million for a £5 million purchase, Lavia's is more like £50 million apparently and he was bought for around the same price as KWP, so I don't know either the club has mucked up here and for some odd reason no one reported the clause, or this isn't true. It is daily fail so I guess you have a point although a couple of other papers reporting it too, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11016531/Tottenham-30m-buyback-clause-Southampton-Kyle-Walker-Peters.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 July, 2022 Share Posted 17 July, 2022 The press love the Spuds....what do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 August, 2022 Share Posted 21 August, 2022 What a player. Not really stating anything new in saying that but what a player. Absolutely superb again yesterday and completely destroyed the notion James Justin is anywhere near his level. I hope Southgate was watching... Also can't recall if we have a song for him? If not, why not resurrect the old Lallana song that reflects his ability to play brilliantly in either full back position but struggling to fit in who he makes look shite? He plays on the left, he plays on the right, Kyle Walker-Peters makes Messi/wingers/Cafu/everyone* look shite... *replace with something better 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 21 August, 2022 Share Posted 21 August, 2022 "Kyle Leonardus Walker-Peters, makes Trent John Alexander-Arnold look shite..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 August, 2022 Share Posted 21 August, 2022 Name Fits the Mario Lemina song, and he actually never gives the ball away, unlike Lemina who did regularly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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