Saint Marky Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 4 nil, 5 nil, let’s have a 6 nil to finish the year in style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 See mention above of Fraser starting. Personally I hope not as I don’t recall him impacting the game from the outset. I think the 60 minutes onwards is his time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 13 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: I can see Stephens starting again though against his youth club. I just hope when we do it it’s like Swansea and not ever for THB or Bednarek who have formed a great partnership. Stephens was quoted on the OS as being prepared to play anywhere. Of course he will, having zero chance of unseating THB or JB or indeed KWP his only hope of game time, captain or no captain, is to compete with Manning or Bree for the other wing-back position. Let's face it he has never been a first choice CB for Saints and was even sent away on loan last year as being surplus to requirements. Martin bigs him up all the time and inexplicably made him club captain (thus making a rod for his own back) but facts are facts and Stephens at best is an over-the-hill journeyman with a very limited future here if indeed he has one at all. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said: Stephens was quoted on the OS as being prepared to play anywhere. Of course he will, having zero chance of unseating THB or JB or indeed KWP his only hope of game time, captain or no captain, is to compete with Manning or Bree for the other wing-back position. Let's face it he has never been a first choice CB for Saints and was even sent away on loan last year as being surplus to requirements. Martin bigs him up all the time and inexplicably made him club captain (thus making a rod for his own back) but facts are facts and Stephens at best is an over-the-hill journeyman with a very limited future here if indeed he has one at all. To an extent I have to agree, he isnt brilliant by any means and I do worry that RM wants to shoe horn him in somewhere in the team. He would still be my centre back on the bench option but if while Bree is out he decides to play KWP and Stephens as the full backs then the question is would Jack be a better bet than Manning? Away from home where you defend more I would have to say yes he probably is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Uh oh There's a light and pyro show before kick-off tonight... 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 We seem to be in the habit of one emphatic home victory followed by a scrappy away win. So to have two home games on the bounce is welcomed, hopefully we continue our home form to win 6-1 - the one for them being due to that Whittaker who always seems to score from distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 On 19/12/2023 at 17:47, Convict Colony said: before watching turkish onlyfans After 32 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: To an extent I have to agree, he isnt brilliant by any means and I do worry that RM wants to shoe horn him in somewhere in the team. He would still be my centre back on the bench option but if while Bree is out he decides to play KWP and Stephens as the full backs then the question is would Jack be a better bet than Manning? Away from home where you defend more I would have to say yes he probably is. Certainly better in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 hour ago, Badger said: See mention above of Fraser starting. Personally I hope not as I don’t recall him impacting the game from the outset. I think the 60 minutes onwards is his time. I think we all like the setup right now, replacing Edozie with Fraser must be devastating for the oppo and working very well for us but we play again in 3 days (third game in less than a week) there's bound to be some changes. This is where a fervent crowd can help carry the team. This is a complete sellout in the stands (don't know about corporate) let's see how many empty 'sold out' seats on show later. Norwich away also sold out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint NL Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 I feel we might be setting ourselves up for a fall here..... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 I remember first game of the season in league one. Everyone expected us to walk the league and Plymouth would be the first lamb to the slaughter on the season opening day. We were poor and they ended up beating us 1-0. Complacency is the mother of all fuck ups. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 37 minutes ago, Turkish said: I remember first game of the season in league one. Everyone expected us to walk the league and Plymouth would be the first lamb to the slaughter on the season opening day. We were poor and they ended up beating us 1-0. Complacency is the mother of all fuck ups. And don’t forget Bristol City at home, similar fixture before New Year lost 1-0 (promotion from Championship season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Stephens was quoted on the OS as being prepared to play anywhere. Of course he will, having zero chance of unseating THB or JB or indeed KWP his only hope of game time, captain or no captain, is to compete with Manning or Bree for the other wing-back position. Let's face it he has never been a first choice CB for Saints and was even sent away on loan last year as being surplus to requirements. Martin bigs him up all the time and inexplicably made him club captain (thus making a rod for his own back) but facts are facts and Stephens at best is an over-the-hill journeyman with a very limited future here if indeed he has one at all. Only neither part of this description is actually a fact. Firstly, he's 29. That's younger than Romeu was when he left for Girona, before then going on to play regularly for Barcelona. Secondly, he's only played for two different clubs at senior level, and only ever signed a permanent contract with one of them. Also, he was a first choice starter for a while - partnering Maya for the second half of the Puel season where he mostly held his own, and then again for the remainder of the lockdown season after project restart, when the team was in really good form and he was a big part of that. And remember also that Bednarek was deemed surplus to requirements and shipped out on loan at the same time that Stephens was, but that's not prevented him from excelling for us this season in the Championship. Apart from all this though, your assessment is pretty spot on. Edited 29 December, 2023 by Sheaf Saint 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 This has all the makings of a typical upset. Saints on brilliant form, at home to a team fighting for their lives and no permanent manager, expected home win, on sky, stupid light show at the start... They apparently never score from corners..... you know how this goes!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Desperate for this to be a win. We can't stop 22/23 being the year we fell apart in the Premier League, but to be able to extend an historic unbeaten run past the turn of the new year would put down a marker for Leicester and Ipswich. The Saints are coming ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I remember first game of the season in league one. Everyone expected us to walk the league and Plymouth would be the first lamb to the slaughter on the season opening day. We were poor and they ended up beating us 1-0. Complacency is the mother of all fuck ups. Seems to be a fair bit on here atm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Fan complacency doesn't affect the players though. I've been rightly informed that fans have no impact on the outcome of matches or the performance of players. In that light... ... we've got tonight in the fucking bag. I'm changing my prediction. 4-0 Saints. Over 70% possession. Arma and Edozie to score. Easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2 hours ago, trousers said: That’s class tbf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 4 hours ago, Badger said: It’s times like this when you’re feeling confident that you also expect Saints will let you down. #scartissue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 I'm not expecting a landslide in this game. I suspect they'll come to keep it tight, a lot will depend on how we finish the half chances that we'll create. 2-1 Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Someone is suggesting that Downes could be out. Has anyone heard anything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Someone is suggesting that Downes could be out. Has anyone heard anything? something not been right with him, subbed at 60 minutes last two games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 29 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Someone is suggesting that Downes could be out. Has anyone heard anything? Hope not. The side functions far better when he plays - RM did mention that he is still recovering from his recent illness. I think this will be a hard game because they have some useful attackers. We should have enough to take the 3 points but unlikely to be the goal fest enjoyed in the last two home games. 2-1 to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2-0 to us with Adam Armstrong and Fraser scoring - COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juice Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 no Downs - Charles starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yorkshire Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 A fresh Downes is a must for Norwich away so here is hoping ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) Rotation, but we must keep winning Edited 29 December, 2023 by tdmickey3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 A weaker starting 11 today I reckon. We may still win but I'm not sure it will be as convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Alcarez has had a lot of chances, needs a good performance today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 It'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juice Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 looks like a team built with Norwich away in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Downes is that colleague who phones in sick once a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) We needed to make changes at some point in this run of 4 games I guess. Good options off the bench with Aribo, Stu and of course Fraser if we need it. Shame about Downes though. Hope he has not picked up an injury. Edited 29 December, 2023 by Saint Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: A weaker starting 11 today I reckon. We may still win but I'm not sure it will be as convincing. Basically whole midfield changed , not feeling as confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: A weaker starting 11 today I reckon. We may still win but I'm not sure it will be as convincing. We still have some good subs if itdoes not look good as the game progresses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Surprised to see that Aribo has been left out after has performance against Swansea. We'll miss his ability on the ball and strength. With Downes and Stu Armstrong also missing this line-up doesn't fill me with confidence but hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Quite a few feeling unconfident? Come on now, that's a fucking strong team at this level. We should be winning with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 I see Che is starting for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Just now, Totton Saint said: I see Che is starting for once It's not his starting that I'm concerned about, it's his finishing, it's been woeful recently..! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Oh well, not going to argue lineup as stats don't lie, but initial thoughts are that lineup is a lot weaker and I hope Plymouth aren't being taken lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 On 27/12/2023 at 20:06, benjii said: I'd be tempted to make a few changes with the long away trip a few days later and, at least on paper, being a more challenging fixture. KWP must have played virtually every minute so far? Also, Downes seems to be struggling a little for full fitness and Stuey has been running all over the place. Probably best not to start Stephens again soon after an injury. I'd go something like: -----------Bazzer---------- Holgate--THB--Bedz---Manning ----------Smallbone--------- ---Charles---------Alcaraz---- Adam Arm---Adams---Edozie Aiming to give Adam Arm and Edozie a good subbing around the 55 or 60 mins. Seems like Russ takes my advice (apart from the KWP rest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, sfc4prem said: Quite a few feeling unconfident? Come on now, that's a fucking strong team at this level. We should be winning with ease. Of course we all hope you are proved right but the changes make us weaker without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, JRM said: Basically whole midfield changed , not feeling as confident Not sure I rate Charles or smallbone that highly. Alcaraz is good but inconsistent. Certainly a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) Just now, hypochondriac said: Not sure I rate Charles or smallbone that highly. Alcaraz is good but inconsistent. Certainly a risk. That is the best squad available (Plymouth), bar the injury to their keeper... Edited 29 December, 2023 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: That is the best squad available (Plymouth), bar the injury to their keeper... Keeper injury normally means he stinks the place out or has a worldie. Let's hope for the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Keeper injury normally means he stinks the place out or has a worldie. Let's hope for the former. It's a hazard waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Rishi is there so bang goes the unbeaten run 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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