Convict Colony Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 52 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: And why are Newcastle the baddy's for waiting for the club to go bust so they can secure a better deal? Obviously it hasn't worked on this occasion but there's no room for morals and ethics when it comes to business. Don't worry they will probably move on shaktar donestk next and then the Russian teams when they can't pay their players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: But two rights can make a wrong. Yeah, right. Two Wrights very definitely make a wrong 😱 Edited 21 July, 2022 by Midfield_General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, Behind Enemy Lines said: I only saw the picture and not the text. 2 reg is private only too, same as M reg. I’m not sure where you’re getting your ideas from but CLF is ‘Clifton’, they’re a private jet company based in Bristol. There’s nothing unusual or illegal to see here, although whether it’s anything to do with Saints is just guess work. Why someone based in Bordeaux would be flying out of GRO I’ve no idea, they’re basically the breadth of the Pyrenees apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Yes of course, if you can then great but if you have the choice between spending £12 Million and being nice about it or acquiring that same asset for nothing but seeing a company fold, unfortunately, it has to be the latter. Like I said, obviously it hasn't worked (if it's true) but I don't harbour any ill feelings toward them for trying it. They're owned by a state, I find it paritculary sour that they were looking to scavage on a dead carcass when they could have easily met the going rate. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 I wonder if Sport Republic have bought a share into Bordeaux as well. Broaden the portfolio. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I wonder if Sport Republic have bought a share into Bordeaux as well. Broaden the portfolio. 😅 They’d be a good purchase for somebody. It’s why they were brought to the attention of daGrosa in the first place. Decent history and fan base, big stadium, have historically done well in a league that, outside of PSG, doesn’t have huge competition for European qualification. Edited 21 July, 2022 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 I am underwhelmed by this signing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: I am underwhelmed by this signing. This isn't aimed at you but we could have signed N'Bappe on a free and PSG pay us £1 Million per month to have him and then spend whatever we have spare finding the cure for cancer and our fans would still find something to moan about. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 2 hours ago, SaintTex said: seems like yesterday JWP was the youngster. Now he doesn't even make the list! Nearly 28! Even KWP is 25 and didn't make it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 6 hours ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: This seems like a huge gamble. I hope he's an instant success but the Premiership is very different to playing for bottom of the table, Bordeaux. Surely, he's of a similar level / standard as 23 year old, Dan N'Lundulu, so if we're buying Mara, why are we not giving a Dan chance in the first team? in defense of his association with a bottom table Ligue 1 team... Bordeaux's issue last season was defensive... gave up a whopping 92 goals. And, actually they were 9th in the league in goals for. He was the 3rd top scorer for the club with only 900 minutes. i am a glass half full kind of guy 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 1 hour ago, SaintTex said: in defense of his association with a bottom table Ligue 1 team... Bordeaux's issue last season was defensive... gave up a whopping 92 goals. And, actually they were 9th in the league in goals for. He was the 3rd top scorer for the club with only 900 minutes. i am a glass half full kind of guy 🙂 Why did he only play 900 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dellman said: Why did he only play 900 minutes? Bordeaux often played with 1 striker and Ui-jo Hwang started most games for them and is a pretty good Ligue 1 striker (we were linked to him last year). When Mara started though, he scored (6 in 8 starts). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooley7 Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dellman said: Why did he only play 900 minutes? You would imagine it was because he was only 18/19 and breaking in to a team that, it sounds like, weren’t struggling for goals. With our transfer policy as it is, buy young players to improve, this guy looks good. French U21, top scorer at a prestigious international youth tournament and played and scored in a top 5 league. When buying young players, his looks a decent CV. Wouldn’t mind seeing one more come in with a bit more experience, with a little bit more of a proven track record. Trouble is the price for that is so high, probably too high for us. Edited 21 July, 2022 by wooley7 Poor gramma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: This isn't aimed at you but we could have signed N'Bappe on a free and PSG pay us £1 Million per month to have him and then spend whatever we have spare finding the cure for cancer and our fans would still find something to moan about. .. all very well and good but what about the catering in the concourse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 9 hours ago, spyinthesky said: As a kid I remember Saints playing a friendly at the Dell against Girondins as they were called then and generally they have been a decent club until the American guy who was once linked to us became involved. However I always thought Saints should have an arrangement with Le Havre as they have generally been a 2nd Level French club but have brought through a lot of good youngsters. I also once played at their old ground!! Already twinned with Southampton as well (or used to be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Badger said: .. all very well and good but what about the catering in the concourse ? Not sure about catering but just renewed deal with Kingfisher shite lager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beatlesaint Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 Just now, SuperSAINT said: I suspect Saints aren’t very happy Bordeaux let the cat out of the bag. I can’t remember when they last, If ever, made an “in principal” announcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 Just now, beatlesaint said: I suspect Saints aren’t very happy Bordeaux let the cat out of the bag. I can’t remember when they last, If ever, made an “in principal” announcement Says to me it’s done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 Just now, Saint Garrett said: Says to me it’s done. Oh yes me too but they like to wait until the signing the contract and holding up the shirt photos are done don’t they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 1 minute ago, beatlesaint said: I suspect Saints aren’t very happy Bordeaux let the cat out of the bag. I can’t remember when they last, If ever, made an “in principal” announcement I'm presuming we've announced it in principle to help their situation as it would sound like they are have very little time to prove liquidity to function. Well played Saints. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 I'm wondering if they've asked us to publicly announce it as a way of saying to anyone they owe money to "Look, we've got some money coming, give us a few days" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 Just now, Bad Wolf said: I'm wondering if they've asked us to publicly announce it as a way of saying to anyone they owe money to "Look, we've got some money coming, give us a few days" I did wonder that, you often get the selling clubs announcing things in principle to appease the stock exchange/shareholders and all those regulations, so there is often a financial slant to it. It's a shame they're in such a mess, they're a massive club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 (edited) Seems a top lad who is being well advised Edited 21 July, 2022 by Ex Lion Tamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 Weren’t Bordeaux owned by a certain Joseph DaGrosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 "I spoke to a couple of people at the club at the beginning of the summer and asked them what the remit was for the window. Historically, Southampton don't spend a lot of money, but they said to me this would be the 'transformation summer'. "They told me a number of people would be leaving the club and a number of new faces would be coming in. Straightaway, Ralph Hasenhuttl reshaped his backroom team as four or five coaching staff and he replaced them. "They've now reshaped the squad with young, talented, raw players with a lot of potential. The latest player to be on their radar is the 19-year-old Bordeaux striker Sekou Mara. "We had confirmation from Bordeaux on their social media channels that they had agreed a fee with Southampton for a player who scored five goals in his last seven league games for Bordeaux despite their relegation from Ligue 1. "Financially, Bordeaux are in a really tough situation at the moment and the player is said to have left the club because he knew the money his move would generate would save the club in the short term. "Southampton have a really talented youngster who has been watched by a number of Premier League sides for not a huge fee. "It's precisely what Hasenhuttl wants to do - bring in young players and develop them. This is a really significant signing for Southampton, their sixth of the summer with over £50m already spent." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 23 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: I suspect Saints aren’t very happy Bordeaux let the cat out of the bag. I can’t remember when they last, If ever, made an “in principal” announcement Disagree. Bdx had to do it for their hearing today, and no way of getting around that on their side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 1 hour ago, ecurnew02 said: Bordeaux often played with 1 striker and Ui-jo Hwang started most games for them and is a pretty good Ligue 1 striker (we were linked to him last year). When Mara started though, he scored (6 in 8 starts). Who supposedly has an offer from West Ham. Also I know some people run for the hills when XG is mentioned but IIRC he had an XG of around 5.6 and scored 6 goals, which generally means he took the limited amount of chances he got. (and obviously an under performing side will not create a huge amount) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 6 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: And why are Newcastle the baddy's for waiting for the club to go bust so they can secure a better deal? Obviously it hasn't worked on this occasion but there's no room for morals and ethics when it comes to business. Morals, ethics and Newcastle all in the same sentence...! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Seems a top lad who is being well advised His mum is apparently a news presenter on French national TV, so he's probably got access to a decent team of advisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 July, 2022 Share Posted 21 July, 2022 14 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: His mum is apparently a news presenter on French national TV, so he's probably got access to a decent team of advisers. Yes please. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 Seems promising, looks to be a Che type player to me. Still reckon two more players coming in, another striker and another no10. When do we start selling then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnycS Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 50 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Seems promising, looks to be a Che type player to me. Still reckon two more players coming in, another striker and another no10. When do we start selling then? Soon as someone wants to buy, so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you! Think Saints may have to give some away with cheap buy back clauses if they suddenly transform into PL players. Kind of a reverse psychology\money ball strategy, instead of buy young, develop, sell on for profit. More of a sell older, admit defeat, take a loss strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 Mara seems to be the real deal, although it will be interesting to see how he copes with the higher pace and physicality of the Prem. May find he needs to bulk up a bit to cope with the CB’s he’ll be facing. Can see him being a target for some heavy tackles and potential injuries, but on the bright side he might provide free kicks around the box for JWP. Where will he start…a Che replacement or as a no.10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 26 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Mara seems to be the real deal, although it will be interesting to see how he copes with the higher pace and physicality of the Prem. May find he needs to bulk up a bit to cope with the CB’s he’ll be facing. Can see him being a target for some heavy tackles and potential injuries, but on the bright side he might provide free kicks around the box for JWP. Where will he start…a Che replacement or as a no.10? I see him as Long replacement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 6 goals in 26 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Tank said: 6 goals in 26 games. Look beyond the number of games as that isn't a true reflection. 6 goals in only 898 minutes of football is pretty impressive. Especially as many of those minutes are in short spells at the end of games for a relegated team. Edited 22 July, 2022 by Matthew Le God 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Look beyond the number of games as that isn't a true reflection. 6 goals in only 898 minutes of football is pretty impressive. That's nowhere near as good as Carillo's 11 in 998! 🤯 Edited 22 July, 2022 by Ex Lion Tamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 I remember the days when we signed Carillo and our geniuses on here insisted that if you exclude all these points he actually had a goal scoring record of a goal every other game. I see the same methodology is at play here 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: I remember the days when we signed Carillo and our geniuses on here insisted that if you exclude all these points he actually had a goal scoring record of a goal every other game. I see the same methodology is at play here 🤣 Yet again you are taking my post out of the context of what it was a reply to and viewing it in isolation. My post was a reply to Tank saying '6 goals in 26 games'. 26 games of football = 2,340+ minutes, but he actually played under 900 minutes, so using '26 games' isn't the best reflection of what he did. Edited 22 July, 2022 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Yet again you are taking my post out of the context of what it was a reply to and viewing it in isolation. My post was a reply to Tank saying '6 goals in 26 games'. 26 games of football = 2,340+ minutes, but he actually played under 900 minutes, so using '26 games' isn't the best reflection of what he did. i didn't quote you so why did you think i was replying to you? How arrogant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 Leandre Griffit at one stage averaged a PL goal every 8mins. If Mara is anywhere near as successful he will be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Turkish said: i didn't quote you so why did you think i was replying to you? How arrogant! The actions of a true narcissist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSaint Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 11 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Hopefully the formalities will be completed in time for him to be involved in the final 2 pre-season matches next week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tank said: 6 goals in 26 games. Alternatively he has scored 10 goals in his last 12 appearances. 5 in the last 7 games of the season for Bordeaux and 5 in 5 for France at the toulon tournament last month. Maybe he just took a while to get going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooley7 Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: The actions of a true narcissist. It’s the irony of such posts that I enjoy. This is from the guy who accuses other posters of being fake just to comment at him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: i didn't quote you so why did you think i was replying to you? How arrogant! Because your post saying... "I remember the days when we signed Carillo and our geniuses on here insisted that if you exclude all these points he actually had a goal scoring record of a goal every other game. I see the same methodology is at play here 🤣" ...came shortly after my post pointing out the issue in using 26 games, 6 goals for Mara. So if you weren't talking about me, who were you talking about? The conversation previously was a different topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Because your post saying... "I remember the days when we signed Carillo and our geniuses on here insisted that if you exclude all these points he actually had a goal scoring record of a goal every other game. I see the same methodology is at play here 🤣" ...came shortly after my post pointing out the issue in using 26 games, 6 goals for Mara. So if you weren't talking about me, who were you talking about? The conversation previously was a different topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 July, 2022 Share Posted 22 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: The actions of a true narcissist. Nonsense, for the reason outlined above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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