Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Okay, bye then. Thanks for the er… pass against Leeds.
Midfield_General Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Over £10m for Mara - who saw that coming? Not cut out for English football, good to draw a line under it and get a very decent fee.
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Bon chance mara - wish you all the best at Strasbourg 4
Give it to Ron Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Good luck to him just not suited to English game
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Will go down in history as the first players whose mum made more of an impact on the fans than he did. 9
Benali Saint Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Id hope that we have included a sell on clause, just incase he lives up to any potential he has 1
bpsaint Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Thank god for that. Him and Che gone in the same window, lovely stuff. Always said he’ll end up at some mid to lower league French side as that’s his level. £10.2 mill is a great bit of business whoever negotiated that. 2
Sheaf Saint Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 I really wanted to believe there was more to come from him, but it wasn't to be. He has some talent, but without the necessary application that's not enough. Some of his 'performances' last year were just unforgiveable. Was it against Coventry when he came on as a sub and basically just jogged around near the halfway line doing literally nothing. Clearly not cut out for English football, but I hope he goes on to have a decent career in France. 4
saint francis Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 3 minutes ago, bpsaint said: £10.2 mill is a great bit of business whoever negotiated that. This. Sold him for pretty much what we paid it would seem.
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 This is just superb business for us. Either it gives us some FFP breathing room or it frees up some funds for more players. My sense is we are almost done bar a possible winger and hopefully keeper. Maybe a lb if kwp goes. 1
SambaMaverick Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 35 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: I really wanted to believe there was more to come from him, but it wasn't to be. He has some talent, but without the necessary application that's not enough. Some of his 'performances' last year were just unforgiveable. Was it against Coventry when he came on as a sub and basically just jogged around near the halfway line doing literally nothing. Clearly not cut out for English football, but I hope he goes on to have a decent career in France. That could apply to the majority of his games with us
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 36 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: “There’s a player in there” 😂 Just as there’s a thin person inside every fat one. 2
Patches O Houlihan Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 18 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Well Mara is an outstanding player. I mean literally - he’s out, standing in the middle of the pitch. That's not fair. Sometimes he manages a brisk walk.
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 54 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: “There’s a player in there” 😂 Remember that Leeds pass!!! 🤣
Midfield_General Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Dan Nlundulu. Michael Obafemi. Sam Gallagher. Steve Basham. Paul Moody. Frankie Bennett. Sekou Mara. 1
pingpong Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 10 minutes ago, Turkish said: Remember that Leeds pass!!! 🤣 To be fair, he scored a beauty against the best team in the country... 1
Midfield_General Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Is this how Monaco felt when we signed Carillo? 6
Midfield_General Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, pingpong said: To be fair, he scored a beauty against the best team in the country... Love that the second highlight on that video, literally the second best thing he did that season, is slicing it high and wide and out for what looks like a throw-in 🤣 Edited 21 August, 2024 by Midfield_General 2
Patches O Houlihan Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 20 minutes ago, pingpong said: To be fair, he scored a beauty against the best team in the country... Anybody who watched that and thought - "Yes, that's the guy for us" really needs to question their recruitment credentials! 😁 We have had their pants down good and proper to sell for over £10m. 1
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 2 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Okay, bye then. Thanks for the er… pass against Leeds. Bit uncharitable. He didn't fit but that's not a reason to take the piss. 2
Wade Garrett Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Any chance they could pay another £10m for Bazunu! 3
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 We've had some pretty bad forwards, he's up there. The fact we've got £10m for him, and he's paid for a new GK, is absolutely bonkers and amazing business. 3
Osvaldorama Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Wouldn’t even start for my Saturday team. Shambles of a player. 10mil is absurd business. Amazing work by Saints to get that money, bordering on fraud 2
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 (edited) I know that rasmus' relation owns that football site where clubs put what they have available and for sale. I wonder if saints and Chelsea are on it? If so makes sense how we were able to arrange the lesley loan so quickly and then they've seemingly helped us to sell Mara to their feeder club. Edited 21 August, 2024 by hypochondriac
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 30 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I know that rasmus' relation owns that football site where clubs put what they have available and for sale. I wonder if saints and Chelsea are on it? If so makes sense how we were able to arrange the lesley loan so quickly and then they've seemingly helped us to sell Mara to their feeder club. Interesting. Adds another angle to datasets, recruitment and growth of the club's all buying into a shared resource.
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Interesting. Adds another angle to datasets, recruitment and growth of the club's all buying into a shared resource. It's how we got the THB loan last year. It would make absolute sense for a team like Chelsea to have a loose partnership with a smaller club in the same league. Yes we are technically competitors but not really. 3
Sevvy Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: Any chance they could pay another £10m for Bazunu! We would have to pay them to take Bazunu. 1
Midfield_General Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: Bit uncharitable. He didn't fit but that's not a reason to take the piss. Quite right, we should all follow your lead and show the utmost respect to all our players at all times. Not like this guy: On 18/08/2024 at 11:00, Charlie Wayman said: Bloody McCathy cost us the bloody match, he should never be seen in a Saints shirt again. If this is the best we can do for a goalkeeper then somebody up top needs effing sacking. 12
santolijador Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: I know that rasmus' relation owns that football site where clubs put what they have available and for sale. I wonder if saints and Chelsea are on it? If so makes sense how we were able to arrange the lesley loan so quickly and then they've seemingly helped us to sell Mara to their feeder club. Most, if not all of the prem are on it these days. It has been a disruptor in football tech and now has over 700 clubs (including the major clubs in pretty much every important league) and at this point clubs are in the minority to not have some presence on it, if nothing else to browse opportunities. I don't doubt that with the Rasmus connection we were one of its first more active users in the prem, given that when SR came in, it wasn't as popular or well known as it is now. From what I know, it has been quite useful post-brexit to put South American and other international/non-EU players in shop windows. It is also quite big in Brazil, which might explain some of our signings this summer as well. 1
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 3 minutes ago, santolijador said: Most, if not all of the prem are on it these days. It has been a disruptor in football tech and now has over 700 clubs (including the major clubs in pretty much every important league) and at this point clubs are in the minority to not have some presence on it, if nothing else to browse opportunities. I don't doubt that with the Rasmus connection we were one of its first more active users in the prem, given that when SR came in, it wasn't as popular or well known as it is now. From what I know, it has been quite useful post-brexit to put South American and other international/non-EU players in shop windows. It is also quite big in Brazil, which might explain some of our signings this summer as well. Thanks for the post. I think we can infer that the signings done on that system could well be the ones from foreign leagues that are done very quickly with seemingly little back and forth - like Fernandes for example. It certainly makes things simpler and gives you access to players that you may not have been aware of. 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Good luck Mara…Hope you find your mojo cos’ you certainly didn’t have it here.
Miltonaggro Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Used to hold forth at SMS last season about Mara with the old boy sitting directly in front of me. As he said, he looked to have everything you'd want in a forward athletically, but no end product, like there was a missing link. I'll remember the lad as a frustrating player, that crucial WBA playoff semi at the Hawthorns a standout example, but he's young enough to build a good career. Wish him well, but delighted we've essentially recouped the outlay. 1
davefizzy14 Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Good luck to Mara, wish him all the best 👍 £10.2m for him is excellent business. 2
beatlesaint Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 5 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Bit uncharitable. He didn't fit but that's not a reason to take the piss. You say that Charlie old son but that sub appearance he made towards the end of last season, everyone knows the one, was one of the most pathetic, lacklustre, couldn’t give a shit performances I have ever seen ! Lack of ability is one thing, if you put in the effort there is a “but”. In his case there wasn’t, and RM should never have picked him again. Will not miss him one little bit. 1
Mr X Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 8 hours ago, Midfield_General said: Over £10m for Mara - who saw that coming? Not cut out for English football, good to draw a line under it and get a very decent fee. Sullemana is another one not cut out for English football I feel
Dark Munster Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 So long Sekou, and thanks for all the goals. 1
SaintNewForest Posted 21 August, 2024 Posted 21 August, 2024 Genuinely cannot believe we've robbed £10m for him ... deal of the century (for us), and no refunds allowed. 1
Convict Colony Posted 22 August, 2024 Posted 22 August, 2024 Interesting that Chelsea initiated this purchase rather than Strasbourg, they just can't stop signing young players, will be interesting to watch as they do have some young promising players at Strasbourg. And absolutely we use transferoom, I've posted links from their website where we breakdown how we've used it for Charly, THB as mentioned above.
david in sweden Posted 22 August, 2024 Posted 22 August, 2024 Players like Mara, Sulemana and even Alcarez are not bad players, but being young, suddenly adapting to another formation, and in this case " Russ ball " is a new phenomenon and it takes time to adjust ...and failing that they quickly become " square pegs". All " new managers "..(and we've had a few of those in the last 5 years) have their own tactics and ideas and sadly ..for every player " ..if your face don't fit " ....you've got one foot out of the door. Moyes' purchase of JWP was a signal that he understood the player's talents and skill, but WHam's new manager has other ideas. Historically, some of our best Academy products have had to find new clubs, not because they are " sub-standard " in any way, but simply because the incumbent in their role was quite simply... " irreplaceable". The dominance of Ryan Bertrand meant that players like Reed and Targett were all forced to leave if they wanted to get first team football (and succeeded) whilst the likes of Sam McQueen might have been a replacement for RB.... had he not suffered a career-ending injury. The timing of such events are often the "make-or-break" periods for some, in what is often ... a relatively short career. Many of us doubted a future for Mara given the "wandering role" he frequently displayed in games when he often seemingly " disappeared" for long periods, but in those better moments he showed us that .." there is a footballer in there somewhere ". Having returned to his homeland, he may feel more settled, and if his career "skyrockets " and he ends up in a French international squad at some future date, I won't be entirely surprised. Au revoir Sekou.
hypochondriac Posted 22 August, 2024 Posted 22 August, 2024 Sekou Mara is never getting into a France squad unless the current French squad, the French B team and the under 21s drive off a cliff simultaneously. Even then it will be close. 1 1
Dellyears Posted 22 August, 2024 Posted 22 August, 2024 10 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: Genuinely cannot believe we've robbed £10m for him ... deal of the century (for us), and no refunds allowed. Agree he never fitted here and needed to go but with the right manager and style of play he may become a winner...I hope he turns the page and does brilliantly 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 22 August, 2024 Posted 22 August, 2024 2 hours ago, david in sweden said: Players like Mara, Sulemana and even Alcarez are not bad players, but being young, suddenly adapting to another formation, and in this case " Russ ball " is a new phenomenon and it takes time to adjust ...and failing that they quickly become " square pegs". All " new managers "..(and we've had a few of those in the last 5 years) have their own tactics and ideas and sadly ..for every player " ..if your face don't fit " ....you've got one foot out of the door. Moyes' purchase of JWP was a signal that he understood the player's talents and skill, but WHam's new manager has other ideas. Historically, some of our best Academy products have had to find new clubs, not because they are " sub-standard " in any way, but simply because the incumbent in their role was quite simply... " irreplaceable". The dominance of Ryan Bertrand meant that players like Reed and Targett were all forced to leave if they wanted to get first team football (and succeeded) whilst the likes of Sam McQueen might have been a replacement for RB.... had he not suffered a career-ending injury. The timing of such events are often the "make-or-break" periods for some, in what is often ... a relatively short career. Many of us doubted a future for Mara given the "wandering role" he frequently displayed in games when he often seemingly " disappeared" for long periods, but in those better moments he showed us that .." there is a footballer in there somewhere ". Having returned to his homeland, he may feel more settled, and if his career "skyrockets " and he ends up in a French international squad at some future date, I won't be entirely surprised. Au revoir Sekou. 2 hours ago, Dellyears said: Agree he never fitted here and needed to go but with the right manager and style of play he may become a winner...I hope he turns the page and does brilliantly Well said. There are loads of players who have spent time in the PL, it's not been fantastic for any party involved, and who have done perfectly well elsewhere. I hope he does well. It's a little nod to our scouting, if he does, too.
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