Sam Edozie

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

He's in the above average category for me, and definitely someone we can improve upon. He just doesn't get his head up enough, and when he does, he seems unable to see what's going on and makes poor decisions on terms of using the ball. It's easy to see why City let him go. Squad player at best for me. 

Surely he will be replaced my Ameyew in time? 

[Miltonaggro]

16 minutes ago, egg said:

He's in the above average category for me, and definitely someone we can improve upon. He just doesn't get his head up enough, and when he does, he seems unable to see what's going on and makes poor decisions on terms of using the ball. It's easy to see why City let him go. Squad player at best for me. 

It’s all about that final decision / ball, end product. If Martin can coach that in and provide a clear target in the box we will likely have a player. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

It’s all about that final decision / ball, end product. If Martin can coach that in and provide a clear target in the box we will likely have a player. 

Looking up, seeing play and making decisions is something that good players develop early. The kid hasn't developed those basics yet, so you've got to wander if he can. There's the makings of a bloody brilliant player, but a winger who doesn't score or create isn't an effective winger regardless of how exciting they look with the ball at their feet. For me he flatters to deceive. 

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

Looking up, seeing play and making decisions is something that good players develop early. The kid hasn't developed those basics yet, so you've got to wander if he can. There's the makings of a bloody brilliant player, but a winger who doesn't score or create isn't an effective winger regardless of how exciting they look with the ball at their feet. For me he flatters to deceive. 

I’d expect Sulemana to play ahead of him if he stays but you’re right he reminds me of that player we all played with that was brilliant in training and at 5 a side, had loads of tricks and skills but couldn’t cut it at 11 a side. There is a good player in there but he seems to lack that in game vision which makes all the difference between a show pony and someone who is effective 

[Saint_clark]

In this league he'll win us a lot of freekicks and penalties before we even get to whether he can actually create for us. Personally, I think he'll get better and better the more he plays. 

[spyinthesky]

He needs to practice shooting and work better against the ball.

That said he could turn into a decent asset

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 hours ago, egg said:

He's in the above average category for me, and definitely someone we can improve upon. He just doesn't get his head up enough, and when he does, he seems unable to see what's going on and makes poor decisions on terms of using the ball. It's easy to see why City let him go. Squad player at best for me. 

I agree. Was pretty anonymous for long periods of the second half when the full back defended a bit more aggressively & had some help. I’m sure sides will double up on him, give him some clog and generally get in his face. If he can overcome that, then maybe he may turn out to be as good as people hope. But I’m not convinced yet. 

[Dusic]

1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I agree. Was pretty anonymous for long periods of the second half when the full back defended a bit more aggressively & had some help. I’m sure sides will double up on him, give him some clog and generally get in his face. If he can overcome that, then maybe he may turn out to be as good as people hope. But I’m not convinced yet. 

I actually thought second half he was pretty much our only threat for most of it.

He had a big role in the winning goal which was a great team move but he was the player who committed defenders and opened up a bit of space.

Totally get that he is nowhere near a finished article but his potential is extremely obvious and whilst his decision making may not be natural, his ability to glide easily past opponents is also something inate rather than overly coachable. If he did it all then we would never have signed him because he would be in the City first team.

Tella had shown pretty much no end product until last season in the Championship and I think Edozie could be a big player for us this season. Promising start for sure.

[Noodles34]

The PL was too much for him and on last night's showing, i reckon the Championship is as well. Just looks like a player that might have got away with kicking and running in the youth teams, but needs more than that at this level. It's all very well being a threat because he saw a lot of the ball and was running at the FB, but he just lost the ball so often and never really produced anything worthwhile. It's early days, but it's a No from me for the first team, would much prefer S Armstrong, though he isn't as wide of course. 

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, Noodles34 said:

The PL was too much for him and on last night's showing, i reckon the Championship is as well. Just looks like a player that might have got away with kicking and running in the youth teams, but needs more than that at this level. It's all very well being a threat because he saw a lot of the ball and was running at the FB, but he just lost the ball so often and never really produced anything worthwhile. It's early days, but it's a No from me for the first team, would much prefer S Armstrong, though he isn't as wide of course. 

Just an absolute shit post & opinion. 
 

The guy had the full back on toast. He’s inexperienced and lacks final product, but clearly has huge potential. 

[The Cat]

I love his technical ability and body movement when he is on the ball. If he adds more end product he could become a stand out player.

[Saint86]

He's got a lot of skill, needs to learn some composure for the final product in the box, and he's far too weak currently. If he can improve both of those aspects he's got a bright future.

[Whitey Grandad]

Very exciting but got kicked around a lot last night. He deserved better protection from the referee. I suspect we shall have to get used to this sort of ale house physicality.

[davefizzy14]

Edozie is very exciting to watch

[Noodles34]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Just an absolute shit post & opinion. 
 

The guy had the full back on toast. He’s inexperienced and lacks final product, but clearly has huge potential. 

Sorry for having an opinion on a forum 💁🏻‍♂️

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Noodles34 said:

The PL was too much for him and on last night's showing, i reckon the Championship is as well. Just looks like a player that might have got away with kicking and running in the youth teams, but needs more than that at this level. It's all very well being a threat because he saw a lot of the ball and was running at the FB, but he just lost the ball so often and never really produced anything worthwhile. It's early days, but it's a No from me for the first team, would much prefer S Armstrong, though he isn't as wide of course. 

I thought that when Stu came on, we got to see other parts of Edozie's game. Stu's strengths in direct passing/ attacking allowed Edozie to switch from taking on/ beating opponent/ drawing fouls to moving into space beyond the defender. Stu was drawing one or two towards him, and then using Edozie's runs in behind. I thought this was a really good combination, I'd like to see more of.

So, when our oppnents shut one down JWP/ KWP who were doing really well in the first half, we have other pairings in the team who link up well, to cause problems.  So, not Stu on for Edozie, but Stu on for Alcaraz and being a litle more central.

Edozie caused problems, but the final ball was lacking. He got better after some views expressed from the technical area regarding his composure. As his opposing defenders tired, and he got more support from Stu, he looked better still. When we no longer needed someoen to take on opponents (and had Stu on if we wanted to, it was right that Aribo came on.)

I don't mind so much if he loses the ball, taking on a man. That's something he'll have been instructed to do. It's difficult, and if instructed, it's up to Martin and staff to make sure that there's cover if/when the ball is lost. It's up to them to show Edozie when to do it, and when to pass. It's up to Edozie to relax and get a better final ball in, after he gets past a man. He'll develop, and has done a bit from last season. On the other flank, Tella offers a more direct threat, and there were times he could have passed it to better effect. So, everyone is developing. Hopefully, regardless of the comings and goings, Edozie will get room to develop this season. The Championship is just the level to test him, and bring him on a lot quicker.

[Noodles34]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I thought that when Stu came on, we got to see other parts of Edozie's game. Stu's strengths in direct passing/ attacking allowed Edozie to switch from taking on/ beating opponent/ drawing fouls to moving into space beyond the defender. Stu was drawing one or two towards him, and then using Edozie's runs in behind. I thought this was a really good combination, I'd like to see more of.

So, when our oppnents shut one down JWP/ KWP who were doing really well in the first half, we have other pairings in the team who link up well, to cause problems.  So, not Stu on for Edozie, but Stu on for Alcaraz and being a litle more central.

Edozie caused problems, but the final ball was lacking. He got better after some views expressed from the technical area regarding his composure. As his opposing defenders tired, and he got more support from Stu, he looked better still. When we no longer needed someoen to take on opponents (and had Stu on if we wanted to, it was right that Aribo came on.)

I don't mind so much if he loses the ball, taking on a man. That's something he'll have been instructed to do. It's difficult, and if instructed, it's up to Martin and staff to make sure that there's cover if/when the ball is lost. It's up to them to show Edozie when to do it, and when to pass. It's up to Edozie to relax and get a better final ball in, after he gets past a man. He'll develop, and has done a bit from last season. On the other flank, Tella offers a more direct threat, and there were times he could have passed it to better effect. So, everyone is developing. Hopefully, regardless of the comings and goings, Edozie will get room to develop this season. The Championship is just the level to test him, and bring him on a lot quicker.

A fair assessment and a reasoned one. Hope I’m proved wrong and it’s nothing but an option based on last season and one game. And the one game aspect probably isn’t fair but I didn’t exactly rate Mane when he played the first few games. So what do I know? 

[Dman]

I'd rather have Tella on the left and Amo-Ameyaw on the right.

i'm sticking Edozie in the squad player camp.. fairly average.

[Fraser Spinney]

https://www.southamptonfc.news/match-coverage/why-russell-martin-must-now-unleash-20-year-old-southampton-gem-on-blackburn-rovers/

[saintant]

2 goals in 2 games. Could he be starting to reveal his true capabilities? Let's hope so.

[Patches O Houlihan]

As discussed earlier I think Sam plays best with confidence. He know's he's not great at recovery tackles and tracking back. So if you play a proper LB behind him you give him licence to play his game. Play Bree or KWP behind him and he'll do fine. Play Manning behind him and we'll ship loads of goals down our left, he'll be less willing to just play his game, RM and the fans will get pissed and then he'll stop being a starter again. 

Plus Flynn Downes returning gives everyone confidence that many opposition breakaway attacks will just get nipped in the bud. 

Maybe Smallbone, Fraser and KWP can give him some tips on accurate passes from the byline having passed a defender we might have scored a couple more if he had that skill locked down

[ally_uk]

Just wanted to show some appreciation for Edozie. From day one you could see the kid has the tricks in locker. 

Good to see him getting a run out in the team and scoring a few goals 👌 

Bright future 👏 

[Suhari]

Yep.

He's got some tricks. Enjoying seeing him develop.

[Harry_SFC]

He's got a lot of potential. Often struggles with his final ball but it was much better today.

[Dark Munster]

He's forming a fantastic partnership with Fraser.

[rallyboy]

One of the best winger displays of recent SMS years - destroyed his marker at every opportunity and had end product as well, even found time for some tracking back when needed.

Great performance.

[The Cat]

He's doing what we expected Sulemana to, beating the full back and putting in dangerous crosses and cut backs.

When we isolate him against the full back he beats him more often than not. If teams have to double up against him it gives more space to someone like Stu Armstrong inside.

He's also been more defensively minded the last few games, being in slightly better positions to close off space when the opposition play diagonals which is a decent tactic against us because the full backs tend to defend quite narrowly.

[SaintNewForest]

How he was kept out the team for fucking Sulemana is a mystery. 

Quality player.

[gio1saints]

21 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

How he was kept out the team for fucking Sulemana is a mystery. 

Quality player.

It was the other way Round.
Sam started the season whilst KS was still unfit. But , apart from a few glimpses of skill was a bit underwhelming though obviously a talent.
He then appeared to lose his man for two separate break away goals we conceded, was criticised and his confidence dipped.

Enter KS. Who started brightly but also underwhelmed. KS Got injured again and now Sam has grabbed his second chance with both hands and will be very hard to dislodge from starting berth. Though frasers form is so good who knows! 

[SuperSAINT]

22 hours ago, The Cat said:

He's doing what we expected Sulemana to, beating the full back and putting in dangerous crosses and cut backs.

& scores goals!

I absolutely expected Sulemana to score goals in this division.

[pimpin4rizeal]

22 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

How he was kept out the team for fucking Sulemana is a mystery. 

Quality player.

I don’t get why people keep doing this at the moment ..why the need to scapegoat players on a 16 match unbeaten run ??

It wasn’t long ago Fraser was getting stick too.. 

all three of edozie sulamana and Fraser are amazing options  to have in this league all offering slightly differant skill sets.. Fraser seems to have the best shooting and end product, edozie beats his man with dancing feet but sulemana is easily the most explosive out of the three - but give it time and the assists and goals will come I’m sure when back from injury..

i hope we keep all 3 even in the premiership if we get there 

[Block41 Saint]

Samuel, Samuel Edozie runs down the down the wing for me. 

Easily enough for people to get onto. Doesn't mention Pompey so will probably never kick off. 

[Sheaf Saint]

On 26/12/2023 at 21:04, Dark Munster said:

He's forming a fantastic partnership with Fraser.

More of a tag team than a partnership.

[Harry_SFC]

53 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

& scores goals!

I absolutely expected Sulemana to score goals in this division.

Sulemena clearly has an attitude issue and I'd imagine he expected to be sold in the summer. Edozie and Fraser both want to be here and you can tell. 

[Osvaldorama]

I don’t understand why Sulemana is rated so highly by fans. He has done nothing in his time here except sulk. 
 

Edozie miles better

[The Cat]

46 minutes ago, Block41 Saint said:

Samuel, Samuel Edozie runs down the down the wing for me. 

Easily enough for people to get onto. Doesn't mention Pompey so will probably never kick off. 

Have heard Sam Edozie baby a few times recently so that's the song which is getting recycled for him.

[Dark Munster]

35 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

More of a tag team than a partnership.

Yep, a great tag team.

[Bad Wolf]

47 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I don’t understand why Sulemana is rated so highly by fans. He has done nothing in his time here except sulk. 
 

Edozie miles better

I've yet to see any evidence of this what so ever?

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

I've yet to see any evidence of this what so ever?

Yeah, I agree I haven't seen him sulking. But I do think he thinks he's better than he is. The championship can be the making of creative players (look at lallana, grealish, benrahama etc in recent years) - but they've got to embrace it to get the most of it. Whereas I do think sulemana does feel its beneath him and that he won't be here for long (probably true). 

[niceandfriendly]

7 hours ago, Block41 Saint said:

Samuel, Samuel Edozie runs down the down the wing for me. 

Easily enough for people to get onto. Doesn't mention Pompey so will probably never kick off. 

Samuel, Samuel Edozie he fuckin' hates pompey

Fixed it for ya.

[Bad Wolf]

10 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Yeah, I agree I haven't seen him sulking. But I do think he thinks he's better than he is. The championship can be the making of creative players (look at lallana, grealish, benrahama etc in recent years) - but they've got to embrace it to get the most of it. Whereas I do think sulemana does feel its beneath him and that he won't be here for long (probably true). 

He probably does think that but that doesn't equate to sulking. And he probably did want a move away but again, haven't seen any evidence that he downed tools or threw his toys out the pram.

[Sussex_saint]

I’ve been really unimpressed with sulemana this season. For 30 mill or whatever he cost he’s done nothing of note. I hope when he is back from injury Martin continues to play Edozie ahead of him

[gio1saints]

That back heel finish was worth so much more than 1 goal for Sam if that means his confidence is at 10/10.
Now needs sustain it and keep this upward trajectory , esp the scoring! 

[St Louis]

On 26/12/2023 at 22:31, SaintNewForest said:

How he was kept out the team for fucking Sulemana.

You’ve probably answered your own question there.

Rarely works out between colleagues, and will often cause an awkwardness around the workplace.

 

 

[Fabrice29]

19 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

I don’t understand why Sulemana is rated so highly by fans. He has done nothing in his time here except sulk. 
 

Edozie miles better

Both of these statements are untrue. Easy to rate the one currently playing well, just like everyone did when Sulemana started well. Wingers are naturally inconsistent and can go hot and cold. No difference here. Enjoy both whilst we have them and the options. 

[Osvaldorama]

20 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

I've yet to see any evidence of this what so ever?

Have you tried, I dunno, watching a game when he plays? He saunters about thinking he’s too good for the club whilst producing absolutely fuck all. 
 

In fairness he was actually tracking back and working hard in the last couple of games before his injury. But in general he looks like he couldn’t care less about playing for us IMO 

[Whitey Grandad]

10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Have you tried, I dunno, watching a game when he plays? He saunters about thinking he’s too good for the club whilst producing absolutely fuck all. 
 

In fairness he was actually tracking back and working hard in the last couple of games before his injury. But in general he looks like he couldn’t care less about playing for us IMO 

I think he can’t use his left foot. I may be wrong and he may be saving it for a special occasion.

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Have you tried, I dunno, watching a game when he plays? He saunters about thinking he’s too good for the club whilst producing absolutely fuck all. 
 

In fairness he was actually tracking back and working hard in the last couple of games before his injury. But in general he looks like he couldn’t care less about playing for us IMO 

His body language is dreadful. I genuinely think he has the potential to be a top, top player but he isn't anywhere near as good as he thinks he is at this moment in time. 

[Bad Wolf]

5 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Have you tried, I dunno, watching a game when he plays? He saunters about thinking he’s too good for the club whilst producing absolutely fuck all. 
 

In fairness he was actually tracking back and working hard in the last couple of games before his injury. But in general he looks like he couldn’t care less about playing for us IMO 

Like Alcaraz?

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

Like Alcaraz?

Do you even watch games? 
 

Alcaraz clearly puts 100% into every game even when it’s going badly. What a ludicrous comparison