What's happened to our away support

[EssEffCee]

5 minutes ago, Saint In Cornwall said:

As results hopefully improve games will sell out for sure.

Fingers crossed. Last thing we need is numbers to drop leading to the club taking only the lower tier at Everton which is bound to be incredibly popular.

[Pamplemousse]

12 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

Surprised Forest went to general sale, thought that would be quite a popular one. Good opportunity for those lower down the ladder though.

Does make me nervous that we might start taking smaller allocations though. 

2400 for a midweek in winter is still pretty good tbh.

 

Ipswich and Chelsea next, which we should take the maximum, the acid test will be Liverpool at the beginning of March. Hopefully it remains a 3pm kick off.

Edited 24 December, 2024 by Pamplemousse

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

2400 for a midweek in winter is still pretty good tbh.

 

Ipswich and Chelsea next, which we should take the maximum, the acid test will be Liverpool at the beginning of March. Hopefully it remains a 3pm kick off.

Forest is sold out (just under 3,000), a few days after travelling up to United on the Thursday night. Support is very good for home and away league games.

[Saint_clark]

Booking a ticket in the new safe standing Northam for the first time, which block is the one for chanting? And are people lower down still choosing to sit or is everyone standing? 

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Booking a ticket in the new safe standing Northam for the first time, which block is the one for chanting? And are people lower down still choosing to sit or is everyone standing? 

Whole end stands

Middle blocks probably best for constant singing 

[CylonKing]

On 23/12/2024 at 22:23, EssEffCee said:

Surprised Forest went to general sale, thought that would be quite a popular one. Good opportunity for those lower down the ladder though.

Living in Nottingham, I was surprised but happy to be able to get general sales tickets for this. First game I've been able to get tickets for this season. Hoping we're a bit more competitive by then and beat the stupid tricky trees. Would be great to be able to laugh at my work colleagues in the event of a rare win to the Saints.

[EssEffCee]

3 away games in a row made general sale. Reduced allocations coming soon I suspect.

[franniesTache]

1 hour ago, EssEffCee said:

3 away games in a row made general sale. Reduced allocations coming soon I suspect.

Genuinely surprised about the fact they've made general sale, surely people are building their numbers up as there's the game at Goodison that'll be really popular and obviously next season a potential away at Fratton

[Turkish]

On 24/12/2024 at 12:03, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Forest is sold out (just under 3,000), a few days after travelling up to United on the Thursday night. Support is very good for home and away league games.

plucky little club with fans having the time of their lives in the English Premier Soccerball league. 

[Football Special]

54 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Genuinely surprised about the fact they've made general sale, surely people are building their numbers up as there's the game at Goodison that'll be really popular and obviously next season a potential away at Fratton

I'm already thinking about next season getting 1000 allocation at Kenilworth Rd, 1200 at Wrexham, maybe 1800 at Wycombe, need to keep those away games up! 

[Football Special]

I reckon with our relegation confirmed the club will come to some agreement with Everton where we just get 1200 upper tier tickets to allow more Evertonians to be there for the emotional farewell 

[franniesTache]

52 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I'm already thinking about next season getting 1000 allocation at Kenilworth Rd, 1200 at Wrexham, maybe 1800 at Wycombe, need to keep those away games up! 

Yeah there's a fair few smaller allocations in the champtionship next season, and no doubt people will be squinnying when they don't qualify.

Not that i'm going to complain if people drop points as it helps me in the long run. I am alright, jack.

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

3 away games in a row made general sale. Reduced allocations coming soon I suspect.

Ipswich is bus replacement service. If you want to train it, will be a horrendous journey to watch a load of shite. 

[franniesTache]

38 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Ipswich is bus replacement service. If you want to train it, will be a horrendous journey to watch a load of shite. 

Bus replacement is only about 20mins if you do the tube to Newbury Park instead of getting the train from Liverpool st.

Train to waterloo, tube to newbury park, bus to Shenfield, train to Ipswich. Adds about 35mins extra to the journey so nothing too bad.

[EssEffCee]

5 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Genuinely surprised about the fact they've made general sale, surely people are building their numbers up as there's the game at Goodison that'll be really popular and obviously next season a potential away at Fratton

Yeah I am a bit too. Will be interesting to see how Chelsea goes as a London game albeit midweek.

Not too bothered though as keeps me near/at the top of criteria, be shit for others if we don't get a full allocation at Goodison though.

[IFHP]

5 hours ago, Football Special said:

I reckon with our relegation confirmed the club will come to some agreement with Everton where we just get 1200 upper tier tickets to allow more Evertonians to be there for the emotional farewell 

Yep all most guaranteed we will only get the smallest allocation. 

I keep looking on the Everton website to see if it’s already been decided -but no news yet of the final game at Goodison 

Remember Man City also only gave us a small allocation for the last game at Main Road . 

Edited January 8 by IFHP

[EssEffCee]

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Ipswich is bus replacement service. If you want to train it, will be a horrendous journey to watch a load of shite. 

Yeah I plan on driving for that reason.

[Football Special]

5 minutes ago, IFHP said:

Yep all most guaranteed we will only get the smallest allocation. 

I keep looking on the Everton website to see if it’s already been decided -but no news yet of the final game at Goodison 

Remember Man City also only gave us a small allocation for the last game at Main Road . 

Hopefully in the interest of fairness they give priority to those of us who were there for the 7-1 defeat in 1996 

That Man City allocation was funny, Rupert Lowe made a formal complaint and we got £10 tickets the following season for the new ground 

[Football Special]

4 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Yeah there's a fair few smaller allocations in the champtionship next season, and no doubt people will be squinnying when they don't qualify.

Not that i'm going to complain if people drop points as it helps me in the long run. I am alright, jack.

I feel quite invested in the championship relegation battle, if Oxford stay up that will be another localish game with small allocation (1400), now Rooney has gone Plymouth might make a go of it also small away end (1600) 

Looking forward to it 👍🏻 

[Gloucester Saint]

50 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Hopefully in the interest of fairness they give priority to those of us who were there for the 7-1 defeat in 1996 

That Man City allocation was funny, Rupert Lowe made a formal complaint and we got £10 tickets the following season for the new ground 

Also won that, 3-1, Pahars crossed for Beattie to bullet in a header after Anelka missed an early one on one, IIRC Phillips scored twice second half. Our chant of ‘we scored the last goal at Maine Road’ did NOT go down well….

[Lord Duckhunter]

6 hours ago, Football Special said:

I reckon with our relegation confirmed the club will come to some agreement with Everton where we just get 1200 upper tier tickets to allow more Evertonians to be there for the emotional farewell 

I think that’s fair enough. 

[Football Special]

27 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Also won that, 3-1, Pahars crossed for Beattie to bullet in a header after Anelka missed an early one on one, IIRC Phillips scored twice second half. Our chant of ‘we scored the last goal at Maine Road’ did NOT go down well….

Imagine scoring a goal like this now 😳 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

6 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Imagine scoring a goal like this now 😳 

 

Great day out, City fans were resigned to the drop in the pubs and down on Keegan. Little did they know what was ahead…

[Hayling Saint]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Great day out, City fans were resigned to the drop in the pubs and down on Keegan. Little did they know what was ahead…

Yep, was there great time and spent the night in Portland Street and China Town, great weekend.

[ant]

17 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Also won that, 3-1, Pahars crossed for Beattie to bullet in a header after Anelka missed an early one on one, IIRC Phillips scored twice second half. Our chant of ‘we scored the last goal at Maine Road’ did NOT go down well….

'Pedant alert' moment, but I think you've confused 02-03 (last at Maine Road, finished 1-0 with a Michael Svensson goal) and 03-04, which was exactly as described.

8th in the league and the FA Cup Final... An impossible dream now. 😪

[Chez]

18 hours ago, IFHP said:

Remember Man City also only gave us a small allocation for the last game at Main Road. 

...in the Gene Kelly stand...and unsurprisingly we got wet. Brilliant end to the season though. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, ant said:

'Pedant alert' moment, but I think you've confused 02-03 (last at Maine Road, finished 1-0 with a Michael Svensson goal) and 03-04, which was exactly as described.

8th in the league and the FA Cup Final... An impossible dream now. 😪

02/03 was last game of the season before the Cup Final - as you say Michael Svensson winner - and last game at Maine Rd - and 03/04 at Etihad which was the 3-1. I was there for that one. 

[EssEffCee]

Chelsea on sale today. Really dislike this thing about leaving entire blocks unavailable for the early sales and which are often some of the best seats.

I understand why they do it as presumably those are the blocks which we can give back but it's frustrating as we're bound to sell this out so seems a bit pointless.

I want upper tier as close to the goal as possible so gonna wait a couple of days I think.

[franniesTache]

4 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

Chelsea on sale today. Really dislike this thing about leaving entire blocks unavailable for the early sales and which are often some of the best seats.

I understand why they do it as presumably those are the blocks which we can give back but it's frustrating as we're bound to sell this out so seems a bit pointless.

I want upper tier as close to the goal as possible so gonna wait a couple of days I think.

Bought mine today and was surprised how many have gone already, got mine nice and close to the stairs so when their third goes in i can be out the ground quickly

[Football Special]

51 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Bought mine today and was surprised how many have gone already, got mine nice and close to the stairs so when their third goes in i can be out the ground quickly

 

I remember the days before the away price cap when we'd take the smaller 1500 allocation for Chelsea, looking back paid £52 in 2013 blimey 

Edited Tuesday at 15:32 by Football Special

[franniesTache]

15 minutes ago, Football Special said:

 

I remember the days before the away price cap when we'd take the smaller 1500 allocation for Chelsea, looking back paid £52 in 2013 blimey 

I remember going to leeds away in the mid 90's (i think), midweek game and we were shit and they were good, think it might've been the first game Carlton Palmer played back there too, and i doubt we took more than 300 to it.

In fact most games north of brum back then we'd be unlikely to sell out 1k tickets, for all my complaints on quality our numbers have definitely improved massively in recent years.

Also re:lower allocations at Chelsea i'm sure we had our allocation reduced by them for a bit due to "persistent standing" in the away end. After that the club just chose not to take the increased allocations for some reason, which is weird cause i'm sure our record at Stamford Bridge isn't actually that bad.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

I remember going to leeds away in the mid 90's (i think), midweek game and we were shit and they were good, think it might've been the first game Carlton Palmer played back there too, and i doubt we took more than 300 to it.

In fact most games north of brum back then we'd be unlikely to sell out 1k tickets, for all my complaints on quality our numbers have definitely improved massively in recent years.

Also re:lower allocations at Chelsea i'm sure we had our allocation reduced by them for a bit due to "persistent standing" in the away end. After that the club just chose not to take the increased allocations for some reason, which is weird cause i'm sure our record at Stamford Bridge isn't actually that bad.

i remember going there on a saturday mid nineties and we barely had 500 there. They used to put us that corner with the yellow seats. We won 1-0 Carlton Palmer got sent off with about 20 minutes to go. Those were the days when scoring away was an achievement never mind a win. We used to probably only win 1 or 2 away a season so to see it was quite an achievement especially at Leeds were we always seemed to play terrible, lose and have hardly any fans there

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

i remember going there on a saturday mid nineties and we barely had 500 there. They used to put us that corner with the yellow seats. We won 1-0 Carlton Palmer got sent off with about 20 minutes to go. Those were the days when scoring away was an achievement never mind a win. We used to probably only win 1 or 2 away a season so to see it was quite an achievement especially at Leeds were we always seemed to play terrible, lose and have hardly any fans there

A luxury at present!

[EssEffCee]

1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

Bought mine today and was surprised how many have gone already, got mine nice and close to the stairs so when their third goes in i can be out the ground quickly

Haha I like that to pick aisle seats for similar reasons. Even if I do stay to the end it's not like the team have deserved any applause at most away games this season.

I'm a bit surprised at how many went today too. With the later KO and being on TV I thought a lot of people might swerve it. Hopefully they'll open the other blocks tomorrow.

[EssEffCee]

44 minutes ago, Football Special said:

 

I remember the days before the away price cap when we'd take the smaller 1500 allocation for Chelsea, looking back paid £52 in 2013 blimey 

I remember the club were slow to cotton on even after the price cap too and took smaller allocations still for a couple of games.

On the price cap I'm pretty sure it's up for review this Summer and there's a lot of whispers that some London clubs are pushing to bin it.

Won't affect us next season though obviously.

[franniesTache]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

i remember going there on a saturday mid nineties and we barely had 500 there. They used to put us that corner with the yellow seats. We won 1-0 Carlton Palmer got sent off with about 20 minutes to go. Those were the days when scoring away was an achievement never mind a win. We used to probably only win 1 or 2 away a season so to see it was quite an achievement especially at Leeds were we always seemed to play terrible, lose and have hardly any fans there

Was funny back then, if you did any decent number of games you'd end up knowing most of the away support as the people who actually travelled everywhere were so small in numbers.

Also we'd always have one weirdly massive northern away follow each season, remember playing Barnsley away in what was an absolute nothing game, they'd already more or less gone down and we'd basically confirmed staying up, and for some reason we sold out the entire away end despite having barely taken a few hundred to bolton a few weeks before and the same few hundred to leeds.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Was funny back then, if you did any decent number of games you'd end up knowing most of the away support as the people who actually travelled everywhere were so small in numbers.

Also we'd always have one weirdly massive northern away follow each season, remember playing Barnsley away in what was an absolute nothing game, they'd already more or less gone down and we'd basically confirmed staying up, and for some reason we sold out the entire away end despite having barely taken a few hundred to bolton a few weeks before and the same few hundred to leeds.

was that the game that finished 4-3? We had the whole away end which was open, uncovered seating i think? Cracking game but a dead rubber.

[Patrick Bateman]

14 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Was funny back then, if you did any decent number of games you'd end up knowing most of the away support as the people who actually travelled everywhere were so small in numbers.

Also we'd always have one weirdly massive northern away follow each season, remember playing Barnsley away in what was an absolute nothing game, they'd already more or less gone down and we'd basically confirmed staying up, and for some reason we sold out the entire away end despite having barely taken a few hundred to bolton a few weeks before and the same few hundred to leeds.

We've had some terrible away followings, I think the worst for me was when I went to Middlesbrough away, Saturday 3pm kick off, we won 3-1, Beattie scored, think it was 2001. But must've barely been 300 or so Saints, really small away following but also the Riverside had masses of empty seats too. Great result, utterly dreadful atmosphere. Still I don't remember anyone trying to sing about Pompey then ........ 

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We've had some terrible away followings, I think the worst for me was when I went to Middlesbrough away, Saturday 3pm kick off, we won 3-1, Beattie scored, think it was 2001. But must've barely been 300 or so Saints, really small away following but also the Riverside had masses of empty seats too. Great result, utterly dreadful atmosphere. Still I don't remember anyone trying to sing about Pompey then ........ 

Its a recent thing isnt it? I remember used to have a bit of it, "away in a manger" "we hate Pompey and we hate Pompey" but not every song and having to Jack Stephens some reference to them into every frigging song,

[Football Special]

59 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

I remember the club were slow to cotton on even after the price cap too and took smaller allocations still for a couple of games.

On the price cap I'm pretty sure it's up for review this Summer and there's a lot of whispers that some London clubs are pushing to bin it.

Won't affect us next season though obviously.

I've heard particularly Man Utd want cap abolished or at least increased significantly, you can see why when this is what they are charging Leicester fans in the 4th round of the FA Cup on a Friday night, scandalous 

Edited Tuesday at 17:12 by Football Special

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

was that the game that finished 4-3? We had the whole away end which was open, uncovered seating i think? Cracking game but a dead rubber.

Good memory, I think in those days we'd get big away numbers up north if it was a) cup game , b) a ground we hasn't played at for years or c) end of season relegation 6 pointer

Think Barnsley was b. 

 

[Football Special]

52 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We've had some terrible away followings, I think the worst for me was when I went to Middlesbrough away, Saturday 3pm kick off, we won 3-1, Beattie scored, think it was 2001. But must've barely been 300 or so Saints, really small away following but also the Riverside had masses of empty seats too. Great result, utterly dreadful atmosphere. Still I don't remember anyone trying to sing about Pompey then ........ 

I used to be envious of teams with big away followings in that era but looking back loved those away days with a few of us, Sunderland away midweek January 2003 we barely had 200 , saw a 1-0 win James Beattie 

[Chez]

56 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We've had some terrible away followings, I think the worst for me was when I went to Middlesbrough away, Saturday 3pm kick off, we won 3-1, Beattie scored, think it was 2001. But must've barely been 300 or so Saints, really small away following but also the Riverside had masses of empty seats too. Great result, utterly dreadful atmosphere. Still I don't remember anyone trying to sing about Pompey then ........ 

Worst for me was Villa on a Monday night, live on Sky, I think in 2002. There certainly were no where near 300 saints fans there.

That game only lives in my memory as it absolutely hammered it down on the way home and with eyes closing due to tireness I found myself overtaking a articulated lorry on the A34 and literally could not see a thing through the windscreen due to incredible rain and spray for what seemed like an eternity. Sacred the shit out of me.

Those midweek evening games are tough. I do wonder how many fans from the south coast actually travel to them. 

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Good memory, I think in those days we'd get big away numbers up north if it was a) cup game , b) a ground we hasn't played at for years or c) end of season relegation 6 pointer

Think Barnsley was b. 

 

we took thousands to Bolton early 90s for the 2-2 draw in the cup on a sunday, it was at their old ground which had part of a shop cut into the terracing, great old ground. Of course we all know how the replay went 😀

Edited Tuesday at 18:04 by Turkish

[Football Special]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

we took thousands to Bolton early 90s for the 2-2 draw in the cup on a sunday, it was at their old ground which had part of a shop cut into the terracing, great old great. Of course we all know how the replay went 😀

Remember it well mate, took thousands, Richard Hall getting a couple, blue flame kit , I still remember that era fondly which shows it wasn't all doom and gloom with Branfoot 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 17:55 by Football Special

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We've had some terrible away followings, I think the worst for me was when I went to Middlesbrough away, Saturday 3pm kick off, we won 3-1, Beattie scored, think it was 2001. But must've barely been 300 or so Saints, really small away following but also the Riverside had masses of empty seats too. Great result, utterly dreadful atmosphere. Still I don't remember anyone trying to sing about Pompey then ........ 

Everton away 1999, 500 of us max, conceded 4 in 10 minutes either side of half-time including a comedy own goal between Claus and Paul Jones. Saints and Everton fought with Liverpool in one of the local pubs.

Bolton away 2002, less than 300, Wayne Bridge scored what we thought was a late winner but Djorkaeff equalised in injury time. Terrible game but good day out. WGS didn’t play a recognised striker that day and last time he did. Turned out to be rather a good season…

Remember the Boro game, highlight of Stuart Gray’s time as manager. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

i remember going there on a saturday mid nineties and we barely had 500 there. They used to put us that corner with the yellow seats. We won 1-0 Carlton Palmer got sent off with about 20 minutes to go. Those were the days when scoring away was an achievement never mind a win. We used to probably only win 1 or 2 away a season so to see it was quite an achievement especially at Leeds were we always seemed to play terrible, lose and have hardly any fans there

1997, David Hirst got the winner IIRC. As a Wendy legend that wouldn’t have down well with the Leeds fans!

[EssEffCee]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

I've heard particularly Man Utd want cap abolished or at least increased significantly, you can see why when this is what they are charging Leicester fans in the 4th round of the FA Cup on a Friday night, scandalous 

Haven't they binned off kids prices for the league too? £66 or something stupid regardless of the age.

[Chez]

19 hours ago, Turkish said:

we took thousands to Bolton early 90s for the 2-2 draw in the cup on a sunday, it was at their old ground which had part of a shop cut into the terracing, great old ground. Of course we all know how the replay went 😀

I went to that game. I think we have discussed this before that Saints fans really used to travel on mass for the FA Cup games. They were seen as somethng a little special. I can't really remember how may we took. It was a pretty big away end in the corner of the ground with a bloody big floodlight pylon right in the middle. I have a feeling it was on a Sunday, but not sure why - was it live on TV? We were in total control and then, we weren't. I hadn't been to too many away games prior to it and hadn't really experienced a noise like it when they got their tails up in the second half.  I miss going to games like that. Genuine excitement of the cup. A big following, and of course the terraces...

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Chez said:

I went to that game. I think we have discussed this before that Saints fans really used to travel on mass for the FA Cup games. They were seen as somethng a little special. I can't really remember how may we took. It was a pretty big away end in the corner of the ground with a bloody big floodlight pylon right in the middle. I have a feeling it was on a Sunday, but not sure why - was it live on TV? We were in total control and then, we weren't. I hadn't been to too many away games prior to it and hadn't really experienced a noise like it when they got their tails up in the second half.  I miss going to games like that. Genuine excitement of the cup. A big following, and of course the terraces...

yes it was on a sunday i've no idea why but we had thousands up there. Typical Saints, 2-0 up and crusing then let them back into it. Cracking trip went with my brother and his mate seemed to take forever to get home.