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48 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Looking at the TV fixture changes announced today I'd imagine some of the more inconvenient kick off times combined with our certain relegation will result in a gradual drop off of away travellers 

United away on a Thursday night in January on TV will get to general sale I imagine.

Rather annoyingly that's also pushed the Forest game back to the Sunday despite it not being on TV.

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I remember before I had a season ticket I got to loads of aways as a member - Palace, Arsenal, Spurs, even Brighton ffs.

It's mad how crazy it's got tbh.

We'll see how well we're doing come the new year, Man Utd away, Liverpool away, Everton away, they may not look so attractive.

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6 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I remember before I had a season ticket I got to loads of aways as a member - Palace, Arsenal, Spurs, even Brighton ffs.

It's mad how crazy it's got tbh.

We'll see how well we're doing come the new year, Man Utd away, Liverpool away, Everton away, they may not look so attractive.

Pretty sure Everton will be popular this year.

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14 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's what happens but I'm not itk as to where they sell them. All I see is the occasional sale on this site.

I always see people on Twitter offering their season ticket customer numbers in advance of the sales period. Of course, they get the benefit of the game being credited to their account. Seems silly to me, especially if using your own name, I'm sure the club monitor that.

I know other teams have done random ID checks on away supporters with names printed on the tickets, I wonder if we will go down the same route. Guess it depends if they see it as a big issue. If there are loads of empty seats at City or Wolves then maybe they will.

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32 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's what happens but I'm not itk as to where they sell them. All I see is the occasional sale on this site.

It's the ones on Twitter who buy a ticket, and then mysteriously 2 hours later, suddenly can't go and are selling it on, that make me laugh... 

Just hoarding up the credit for more decent looking aways and preventing others from getting their foot in the door. 

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27 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I always see people on Twitter offering their season ticket customer numbers in advance of the sales period. Of course, they get the benefit of the game being credited to their account. Seems silly to me, especially if using your own name, I'm sure the club monitor that.

I know other teams have done random ID checks on away supporters with names printed on the tickets, I wonder if we will go down the same route. Guess it depends if they see it as a big issue. If there are loads of empty seats at City or Wolves then maybe they will.

Thanks Pamplemousse. Like you say, the club probably can't be bothered to do much about it if the away section is full. At Cardiff there were lots of empty seats but if it happens in premier league games, they might feel compelled to do something about it.

I guess Saints Membership is still worth it for the priority you get for homes games.

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17 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

A lot of them don't even go. Buy the tickets, get the credit and sell them on. 

Yup this is a massive problem, you only need to look at social media to see it's the same people every time who stick up message saying that they suddenly "can't make a game"

Personally i think a lot of this could be fixed if the club made a few simple changes, first change is to the criteria. It should be:

Season ticket holders with X aways

Members ticket holders with X aways

Season ticket holders with X -1 aways

Members ticket holders with X -1 aways

Down to season ticket holders, then members, then general.

Second thing to do is monitor socials and ban regular re-sellers, they're pretty easy to identify and just banning a handful will bleed out and discourage. I don't think you can ban re-sellers completely because there is always a valid case, but you've got to make a stand against people doing it regularly.

Course it's easy for me to say that because "i'm alright jack" and actually qualify for most, if not all games, pretty easily. But it does feel the system is broken

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53 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Yup this is a massive problem, you only need to look at social media to see it's the same people every time who stick up message saying that they suddenly "can't make a game"

Personally i think a lot of this could be fixed if the club made a few simple changes, first change is to the criteria. It should be:

Season ticket holders with X aways

Members ticket holders with X aways

Season ticket holders with X -1 aways

Members ticket holders with X -1 aways

Down to season ticket holders, then members, then general.

Second thing to do is monitor socials and ban regular re-sellers, they're pretty easy to identify and just banning a handful will bleed out and discourage. I don't think you can ban re-sellers completely because there is always a valid case, but you've got to make a stand against people doing it regularly.

Course it's easy for me to say that because "i'm alright jack" and actually qualify for most, if not all games, pretty easily. But it does feel the system is broken

A few other clubs do random ticket checks / collection for away games where you need ID etc, don't really want to go down that route like you say plenty of times a mate can't make it and pass it on , it's the deliberate re-sellers that should be targeted. 

Historically it's not been an issue for us as even sold out away games used to go to general sale.

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18 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

United away on a Thursday night in January on TV will get to general sale I imagine.

Rather annoyingly that's also pushed the Forest game back to the Sunday despite it not being on TV.

Forest and Fulham away on Sunday lunchtimes annoyed me,  two good away days for trains / pubs would have been ideal Saturday 3pm 

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I'm assuming the club ain't making money selling away tickets for league games, so if they're taking full allocations they're probably just happy to get them sold however so not to be lumbered with unsold tickets and costing them a wedge. Can't really blame them but as suggested, members with most away credits should get second pick at each stage on tickets.

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19 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

Problem is I highly doubt the club care about people selling on their tickets. They're certainly not gonna pay someone to trawl through social media looking for repeat offenders.

The club already regularly monitors social media, why do you think the "influencers" got free puma shirts? Also they've banned people in the past for things said on social media.

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On 16/10/2024 at 13:28, Football Special said:

A few other clubs do random ticket checks / collection for away games where you need ID etc, don't really want to go down that route like you say plenty of times a mate can't make it and pass it on , it's the deliberate re-sellers that should be targeted. 

Historically it's not been an issue for us as even sold out away games used to go to general sale.

Away tickets are always paper but I wonder how long before it goes digital? Would mean if you transfer a ticket, you lose the credit against your customer number.

I guess it would have to be implemented in agreement with every Prem club. Imagine having 20 different clubs' ticket apps 

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4 hours ago, franniesTache said:

The club already regularly monitors social media, why do you think the "influencers" got free puma shirts? Also they've banned people in the past for things said on social media.

Fair enough. I don't use it so wouldn't even know who the so called influencers are and definitely didn't know they got free shirts.

Still think the club likely aren't arsed about people passing away tickets on as means less chance they're left with a bill. Until there's a big a issue at a game involving a fan who shouldn't have been there I doubt that'll change either.

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1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

Away tickets are always paper but I wonder how long before it goes digital? Would mean if you transfer a ticket, you lose the credit against your customer number.

I guess it would have to be implemented in agreement with every Prem club. Imagine having 20 different clubs' ticket apps

Loads of clubs are doing digital away tickets already. Think they integrate the apps rather than require users to have multiple different applications

I'm expecting them for Palace unless our app isn't linked up yet.

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