lambtiss Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 Surely his goal scoring achievements, even at the tender age of 18 mean that he deserves his own thread. https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2023/Nov/21/england-mens-u19-mexico-match-report-20232111 A hatrick for England U19s today just adding to his growing reputation. The chaotic mess that is Reading FC at the moment is arguably not the best place for him to be developing his potential. Looking forward to him scoring goals in a Saints first team shirt, which seems to be his inevitable destiny, hopefully sooner rather than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 (edited) On 22/11/2023 at 18:41, lambtiss said: Surely his goal scoring achievements, even at the tender age of 18 mean that he deserves his own thread. Like one of these you mean...? Edited 25 November, 2023 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 22 November, 2023 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2023 Yes, very good work Trousers. I thought that there might be other threads somewhere but not having the will to page through a forum, just thought that a hattrick for England deserved highlighting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 Another Dom Ballard thread? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 22 November, 2023 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2023 Great response chaps, celebrate a Southampton home grown lad scoring a hattrick or be cynical . Class. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 6 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Great response chaps, celebrate a Southampton home grown lad scoring a hattrick or be cynical . Class. I apologise MuttonMatt. It's great to see, just hope there's a route to the first team for him especially as we may be back in the Prem when he comes back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 22 November, 2023 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I apologise MuttonMatt. It's great to see, just hope there's a route to the first team for him especially as we may be back in the Prem when he comes back. 😂 Yes, his goal scoring exploits are remarkable and he seems to score at every level. Hatrick for England at any level is something really special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 It's been said before that many Saints youngsters have banged in goals at "lower levels" then never hit the heights in senior football. I hope Ballard isn't one of them. However if we go up this season I think he goes on loan for another year. Stay in the Championship and I would hope he would be one of our squad options next season alongside AA, Ross and A.N Other. The Reading loan will do him good IMO no matter how fruitcake they are right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 His scoring record definitely catches the eye and my heart says he deserves a squad role in our team at the moment. However, my head then reminds me that there are plenty of players who have scored for fun at the younger level and then struggled to make it as a professional. Most recently, Ryan Seager. Sekou Mara also dropped down to the Under-21s once and banged in four goals, giving us a better insight into the levels they play at each week. Agreed, that I don't think Reading was the right move, though. A club in a state off the pitch with a manager who doesn't really value attacking football, or attacking players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 36 minutes ago, lambtiss said: 😂 Yes, his goal scoring exploits are remarkable and he seems to score at every level. Hatrick for England at any level is something really special. I agree with you that’s it’s a tremendous achievement. Didn’t do MLT’s England career any good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 28 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: His scoring record definitely catches the eye and my heart says he deserves a squad role in our team at the moment. However, my head then reminds me that there are plenty of players who have scored for fun at the younger level and then struggled to make it as a professional. Most recently, Ryan Seager. Sekou Mara also dropped down to the Under-21s once and banged in four goals, giving us a better insight into the levels they play at each week. Agreed, that I don't think Reading was the right move, though. A club in a state off the pitch with a manager who doesn't really value attacking football, or attacking players. Reading is his local club his family home is nearby so why not Reading 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 22 November, 2023 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2023 17 minutes ago, Badger said: I agree with you that’s it’s a tremendous achievement. Didn’t do MLT’s England career any good though Matt was tragically overlooked for England in my opinion. It was once said that if he had elected to play for France they would have built a team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 November, 2023 Share Posted 22 November, 2023 2 hours ago, lambtiss said: Matt was tragically overlooked for England in my opinion. It was once said that if he had elected to play for France they would have built a team around him. They only gave Ginola 17 caps so who knows how they'd have treated Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 Stretchered off today. Nasty looking injury and suspected ACL. Gutted for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 Ah man. Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 Shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Stretchered off today. Nasty looking injury and suspected ACL. Gutted for him. Yeah, bugger. After a long line of academy strikers/attacking midfielders that have failed to capitalize on their early potential over the last decade of do (e.g. Ryan Seager, Josh Sims), Dom looked like he could actually break through into the first team. Hope this doesn't end up being one of those injuries that he never fully recovers from... Edited 25 November, 2023 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 2 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: Stretchered off today. Nasty looking injury and suspected ACL. Gutted for him. Oh no. I heard they'd won and clicked here looking forward to seeing that he'd got a winner. Can only hope it's not as bad as feared, and a speedy and fully recovery if it is. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 12 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Oh no. I heard they'd won and clicked here looking forward to seeing that he'd got a winner. Can only hope it's not as bad as feared, and a speedy and fully recovery if it is. 😞 He was stretchered off while on the oxygen. It certainly sounds very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 November, 2023 Share Posted 25 November, 2023 Terrible news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 26 November, 2023 Share Posted 26 November, 2023 Wishing him all the very best. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 It’s all gone very quiet on his injury. Would have thought we might have had some news by now. Fingers crossed for the lad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 (edited) Well, if it is an ACL, in all likelihood it will be the end of his top level career prospects. Terrible terrible news. Edit, looks grim indeed (circa 10-20 seconds in), possible over extension / twist of the knee? Nice little move by him as well tbf. Edited 28 November, 2023 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Well, if it is an ACL, in all likelihood it will be the end of his top level career prospects. Terrible terrible news. did he have a top level career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: did he have a top level career? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 (edited) Livramento is doing pretty well after his ACL repair Edited 28 November, 2023 by waylander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 20 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Why is it the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted 28 November, 2023 Share Posted 28 November, 2023 Not sure if this is a better outcome than an ACL or not, but either way a serious injury at a crucial time. Truly gutted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 5 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: Not sure if this is a better outcome than an ACL or not, but either way a serious injury at a crucial time. Truly gutted for him. Sad news, ACL injuries always seem worse as so many used to be career ending don’t know much about this but snapped tendons and a most of the season out is terrible for a young player. We do seem to get more than our share of long term injuries to promising young players which is unfortunate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Sad news, ACL injuries always seem worse as so many used to be career ending don’t know much about this but snapped tendons and a most of the season out is terrible for a young player. We do seem to get more than our share of long term injuries to promising young players which is unfortunate Same injury Forster had and he was out for around 11 months. It's a much rarer injury than an ACL and the recovery time is normally slightly longer. Terrible news for the lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 That's an awful injury for the poor lad. I've had patella tendonitis (the injury that ended Owen Hargreaves career) and it was horrendous, so I can't imagine what a break would be like. It'll be a tough road back for him and I wish him well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 Broken patella tendon, out for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 47 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Broken patella tendon, out for the rest of the season. Good to see people are reading the thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Good to see people are reading the thread Came up an hour ago as breaking news from Reading. But yes, I didnt read the whole thread again. Edited 29 November, 2023 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 In a rush to be first to deliver the breaking news on here quite often people ignore the fact the news has already broken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 55 minutes ago, Turkish said: In a rush to be first to deliver the breaking news on here quite often people ignore the fact the news has already broken I have learned my lesson and will duly stop posting. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 On 22/11/2023 at 20:28, lambtiss said: Matt was tragically overlooked for England in my opinion. It was once said that if he had elected to play for France they would have built a team around him. Matt had two brilliant seasons in 1989-91 playing out wide. Not sure the French side was blessed with fabulous wingers during those couple of years. Ginola started to emerge in 1990. Pascal Vahirua played a fair bit around that time. Not sure there was much talk about MLT playing for his country at that time though, despite his exciting performances for us. 1993-95 was obviously when MLT was in his pomp and tearing up the Prem. Not exactly the best era for the France National side, but in 1995 they did have Djorkeff and Zidane as attacking midfielders (although the latter was only just emerging) and Cantana, Ginola and Dugarry further forward. So Houllier/Aime Jacquet may well have shown him more faith and provided more opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 21 hours ago, waylander said: Livramento is doing pretty well after his ACL repair So did Ala Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 November, 2023 Share Posted 29 November, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Turkish said: Sad news, ACL injuries always seem worse as so many used to be career ending don’t know much about this but snapped tendons and a most of the season out is terrible for a young player. We do seem to get more than our share of long term injuries to promising young players which is unfortunate I know what you mean, but the mere fact that we place teenagers on loan with L1/ L2 / League / National League clubs means that they are getting far more strenuous activity and tougher physical contact which stresses young bodies that are still developing physically. In this case I think it was an accidental fall, but seemed reminiscent of Livramento's injury way back then, and also Broja who suffered a major injury after he returned to Stamford Bridge, and now it seems that Lavia has also suffered an injury problem in the short time since leaving us. Another example of the difficulty of U21 level players stepping up and failing to meet the demands of " the man's game" . Edited 29 November, 2023 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 30 November, 2023 Share Posted 30 November, 2023 10 hours ago, Totton Saint said: So did Ala Shearer I only remember his achilies keeping him out for months , did he have an acl as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 November, 2023 Share Posted 30 November, 2023 On 23/11/2023 at 04:28, lambtiss said: Matt was tragically overlooked for England in my opinion. It was once said that if he had elected to play for France they would have built a team around him. Pele said, that MLT was the only England player, who would get into the Brazilian team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 November, 2023 Share Posted 30 November, 2023 7 hours ago, East Kent Saint said: I only remember his achilies keeping him out for months , did he have an acl as well ? Indeed he did. https://www.squawka.com/en/features/famous-footballers-acl-injury-recoveries/#:~:text=Alan Shearer,£3.6m from Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 30 November, 2023 Share Posted 30 November, 2023 Having had the same injury, I can confirm it ruined my prospects of a top level playing career. The reconstruction surgery stopped the patella from popping but it’s difficult to get the realignment right without fucking the cartilage, well it was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 November, 2023 Share Posted 30 November, 2023 (edited) On 29/11/2023 at 04:44, Turkish said: We do seem to get more than our share of long term injuries to promising young players which is unfortunate I have the same gut feel... we do appear to be more unlucky than most teams with career affecting injuries on our younger players... I wonder if the stats back up this perception?. Edited 30 November, 2023 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 1 December, 2023 Share Posted 1 December, 2023 Wishing Dom a speedy recovery, such an unfortunate injury to pick up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauro Posted 2 December, 2023 Share Posted 2 December, 2023 That will be him done unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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