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18 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

It was a massive gamble in a position we've rolled the dice on since we sold Ings. We didn't need to roll the dice again, Piroe was there on a plate for us to get. 

Need to fix that in January. Adams is done here as far as I'm concenered, get Armstrong and a proper CF together in the attack - but we need to play quicker for that to actually make a huge difference.

Piroe was trending on twitter this week with Leeds fans slating him. 

I thought it was obvious signing but RM said too similar to AA and not as good - maybe he was right

 

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Ing's is another player who thought the grass was greener at Villa. Didn't work out for him there, hasn't worked out for him at WHU.

Sometimes players have a level where they fit and I think we were that level. I'd welcome him back but he should have just signed the contract when he was offered it and we'd probably still be in the prem with him a massive fan fave.

It would be typical though, we've spent the last 3 or so seasons trying to replace him (Armstrong, Broja, Stewart), yet there is a genuine possibility we're going to just circle back on him, in a lower league. Not the best show up for our scouts really.

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1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Ing's is another player who thought the grass was greener at Villa. Didn't work out for him there, hasn't worked out for him at WHU.

Sometimes players have a level where they fit and I think we were that level. I'd welcome him back but he should have just signed the contract when he was offered it and we'd probably still be in the prem with him a massive fan fave.

It would be typical though, we've spent the last 3 or so seasons trying to replace him (Armstrong, Broja, Stewart), yet there is a genuine possibility we're going to just circle back on him, in a lower league. Not the best show up for our scouts really.

His bank balance probably agrees with him.

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1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Ing's is another player who thought the grass was greener at Villa. Didn't work out for him there, hasn't worked out for him at WHU.

Sometimes players have a level where they fit and I think we were that level. I'd welcome him back but he should have just signed the contract when he was offered it and we'd probably still be in the prem with him a massive fan fave.

It would be typical though, we've spent the last 3 or so seasons trying to replace him (Armstrong, Broja, Stewart), yet there is a genuine possibility we're going to just circle back on him. Not the best show up for our scouts really.

His bank manager disagrees.

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Just now, S-Clarke said:

Maybe, but it's not like we were going to pay him peanuts. 100k p/w on the table for him.

I agree. But where do we draw the line? We all leave jobs for better paid ones and unless the original one was minimum wage then you're open to the same crititism. Once you've set yourself up for life of luxury, why not make sure your kids are set, then your grandchildren are set etc. The career of a footballer is a very short one and even though he could probably "survive" for life on what he made in his first 2-3 years, why not make sure you have as much as possible?

You also have to bear in mind that when he was 12, he was discarded by our club like an empty crisp bag in not a particularly nice way and given no aftercare what so ever (and I know that for a fact). I'll always wish players that leave us well as long as it's done in the right way.

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9 hours ago, James G said:

Yeah, I spoke to one of them maybe two weeks ago. I'm attending a function, I'm travelling down in the first week of January, then there is another event in Manchester in April, so I'll meet people from various clubs at both events.

 

8 hours ago, James G said:

I don't think so, but I didn't ask. I think that might be a Premier League rule. I'm back on 8th January, so I'll try and find out more that week. It was just mentioned. I spoke to them twice about two weeks ago, then the next time will be January 

Cheers for sharing what you've heard @James G - appreciated 

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5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Ing's is another player who thought the grass was greener at Villa. Didn't work out for him there, hasn't worked out for him at WHU.

Sometimes players have a level where they fit and I think we were that level. I'd welcome him back but he should have just signed the contract when he was offered it and we'd probably still be in the prem with him a massive fan fave.

It would be typical though, we've spent the last 3 or so seasons trying to replace him (Armstrong, Broja, Stewart), yet there is a genuine possibility we're going to just circle back on him, in a lower league. Not the best show up for our scouts really.

His bank account would probably suggest that both moves worked out rather nicely.

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I bet trousers is the office gossip at work. Always asking people where they heard things. 

"Did you hear the Sharon saw Barbara in Lidl on Sunday and she was with ANOTHER different man? Jason's getting his kitchen done and painting it purple! No I didn't know that about Steve, can't believe it. Who told you?"

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14 hours ago, West end Saints said:

Piroe was trending on twitter this week with Leeds fans slating him. 

I thought it was obvious signing but RM said too similar to AA and not as good - maybe he was right

 

I doubt Piroe would have scored more than AA, and he's not the centre forward that we desperately need(ed). We need a fit Ross Stewart and that gamble has failed big time. Ings, if fit, would make a huge difference. 

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I think we should sign 23 year old Togo International and Belgian League top scorer Kevin Denkey this January from Cercle Brugge. I have done thorough scouting on this goal scoring striker that involved Googling who the top scorer was in Belgium at present. HTH. 😀

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5 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Ings was world class for us .. would take him back in a heartbeat ..different level finisher to anyone we had since .. and would surely be class in the championship 

 

I don’t think averaging 13 goals a season counts as world class but he was decent overall. Personally I have my doubts he’d stay fit enough to make it worth it and whether or not his motivation would be there.

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5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t think averaging 13 goals a season counts as world class but he was decent overall. Personally I have my doubts he’d stay fit enough to make it worth it and whether or not his motivation would be there.

He was Champions League quality in that season when he scored 22 goals

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6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t think averaging 13 goals a season counts as world class but he was decent overall. Personally I have my doubts he’d stay fit enough to make it worth it and whether or not his motivation would be there.

His 22 goals in 2020 kept the Club in the Prem.    Rising 32 now, and with his injury history....????    We need a striker who scores goals; and in big games like the play offs, which is likely where we finish up.     

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1 minute ago, Master Bates said:

West Ham keen on Walker-Peters 

Big mistake to sell him but the flurry of rumours around Ings coming the other way or Johnson on loan to replace Mason Holgate does not augur well. Perhaps they have looked at the Ward-Prowse move and think they want a bit more of that on the cheap. Hyphenated players the latest thing for them.

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42 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Surely Ings could get a PL loan to one of the bottom 6? Why would he come back here and drop down a league? That said, I’d be absolutely happy to have him back, he’s a goal machine and if he was fit you’d expect him to score every game at this level.

Maybe he doesn't want to be in another relegation scrap

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15 minutes ago, DT said:

Big mistake to sell him but the flurry of rumours around Ings coming the other way or Johnson on loan to replace Mason Holgate does not augur well. Perhaps they have looked at the Ward-Prowse move and think they want a bit more of that on the cheap. Hyphenated players the latest thing for them.

Ings or a decent right back? If that's the choice, as great as KWP is, it's a proven goalscorer every day of the week. 

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t think averaging 13 goals a season counts as world class but he was decent overall. Personally I have my doubts he’d stay fit enough to make it worth it and whether or not his motivation would be there.

Lol no pleasing some people his best season for us he was up with Kane and aguerro etc and practically golden boot winner (lost out only by not taking penalties) .. 

People love lambert and pelle but they where no where close to ings at his best 

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I think Ings could be the David Connolly type scorer we would benefit from - cant see him playing 3 games in a week and staying fit though. 

Looks like Adams will indeed be off which would not really be a massive miss given how little he has played I suppose. Would be great if we could make a bit of a statement signing to replace him - really depends if we can get Stewart playing in Jan.

Walker Peters leaving would be a worry.  Bree is capable on that side but arguably he is our best left back.  Would need to replace him I think - Meghoma/Larios dont seem near the first team / injured.

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26 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Lol no pleasing some people his best season for us he was up with Kane and aguerro etc and practically golden boot winner (lost out only by not taking penalties) .. 

People love lambert and pelle but they where no where close to ings at his best 

Great season, no doubt about it. Doesn’t change the rest of what I said though. Ings was James Beattie with injuries. Decent on his day but never ‘world class’. Given choice, I’d have Beattie, Lambert or Pellè over him.

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26 minutes ago, chownie20 said:

I think Ings could be the David Connolly type scorer we would benefit from - cant see him playing 3 games in a week and staying fit though. 

Looks like Adams will indeed be off which would not really be a massive miss given how little he has played I suppose. Would be great if we could make a bit of a statement signing to replace him - really depends if we can get Stewart playing in Jan.

Walker Peters leaving would be a worry.  Bree is capable on that side but arguably he is our best left back.  Would need to replace him I think - Meghoma/Larios dont seem near the first team / injured.

We'd likely replace KWP with the other West Ham player. I love KWP but I was amazed he didn't go in the summer and we've been incredibly lucky to get another half a season out of him if he does go. He's also a RB which TBH isn't the most vital position on the pitch even if he is probably our best player. 

 

KWP out, Ben Johnson in 

Adams out, Ings in 

Holgate out, not sure we need a replacement. 

I'd probably take that with the hope that Stewart and Ings could share the load given they won't be up for starting every game. If I were greedy I'd like a creative player too but I'm not sure we'll be getting that in January.

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26 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We'd likely replace KWP with the other West Ham player. I love KWP but I was amazed he didn't go in the summer and we've been incredibly lucky to get another half a season out of him if he does go. He's also a RB which TBH isn't the most vital position on the pitch even if he is probably our best player. 

 

KWP out, Ben Johnson in 

Adams out, Ings in 

Holgate out, not sure we need a replacement. 

I'd probably take that with the hope that Stewart and Ings could share the load given they won't be up for starting every game. If I were greedy I'd like a creative player too but I'm not sure we'll be getting that in January.

Would be devastated to see KWP go. But he deserves better than us. Ings on a loan would be relatively low risk. 

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17 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said:

Would be devastated to see KWP go. But he deserves better than us. Ings on a loan would be relatively low risk. 

How many people seriously expected him to stay in the summer? I would have had him nailed on to leave. The reality is we have been lucky to see him in this division. If he goes then no one could say it wasn't fully deserved. He's our best player for me and really should be making England squads. 

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13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

How many people seriously expected him to stay in the summer? I would have had him nailed on to leave. The reality is we have been lucky to see him in this division. If he goes then no one could say it wasn't fully deserved. He's our best player for me and really should be making England squads. 

100%. Was on my top 5 list of guaranteed departures so was amazed he is still here. We're not high enough in thr table to convince him to give us half as season more. If someone comes in with decent money he's probably gone.

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Walker Peters rumour comes from our friend Alex Crook.

The reason he is still here is that we wanted a shed load of money for him in the summer and no one coughed up. He's got 18 months left  of his contract, so his value will be falling, but I can't see us now suddenly giving him away as he is so vital to our promotion hopes. West Ham or whoever else ain't getting him on the cheap in January.

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2 hours ago, chownie20 said:

I think Ings could be the David Connolly type scorer we would benefit from - cant see him playing 3 games in a week and staying fit though. 

Looks like Adams will indeed be off which would not really be a massive miss given how little he has played I suppose. Would be great if we could make a bit of a statement signing to replace him - really depends if we can get Stewart playing in Jan.

Walker Peters leaving would be a worry.  Bree is capable on that side but arguably he is our best left back.  Would need to replace him I think - Meghoma/Larios dont seem near the first team / injured.

Which January?

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

We'd likely replace KWP with the other West Ham player. I love KWP but I was amazed he didn't go in the summer and we've been incredibly lucky to get another half a season out of him if he does go. He's also a RB which TBH isn't the most vital position on the pitch even if he is probably our best player. 

 

KWP out, Ben Johnson in 

Adams out, Ings in 

Holgate out, not sure we need a replacement. 

I'd probably take that with the hope that Stewart and Ings could share the load given they won't be up for starting every game. If I were greedy I'd like a creative player too but I'm not sure we'll be getting that in January.

The only load Stewart and Ings could share would be on the doctors and physios.

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4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Great season, no doubt about it. Doesn’t change the rest of what I said though. Ings was James Beattie with injuries. Decent on his day but never ‘world class’. Given choice, I’d have Beattie, Lambert or Pellè over him.

The most recent of those - Pelle - left 7 1/2 seasons ago. May as well say I’d rather have Ron Davies or Steve Moran.

Ings is the best finisher we’ve had in the last 5-6 years by a long chalk. Aside from Broja’s small purple patch we’ve not had anyone who looks remotely comfortable in front of goal since Ings left.  It’s why we got relegated, it’s why we’re currently not winning games we should.
Ings was miles ahead of anything we’ve had to compare him with in about 90 months. Whether he still would be is another matter, but anyone suggesting he isn’t a class above anything else we’ve had up front for years doesn’t know what a quality player is.

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4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Great season, no doubt about it. Doesn’t change the rest of what I said though. Ings was James Beattie with injuries. Decent on his day but never ‘world class’. Given choice, I’d have Beattie, Lambert or Pellè over him.

So would I, but none of those could come to us in January and help us get the goals that we need. Ings could, and I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

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16 minutes ago, egg said:

So would I, but none of those could come to us in January and help us get the goals that we need. Ings could, and I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

I would take him, assuming we couldn’t find another player with a better fitness record, but people talking about the one season in his career when he stayed fit and scored 22 goals really need to lower their expectations. He has fitness problems and if he ends up on loan in the Championship it’ll be for a very good reason.

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3 hours ago, Chez said:

Walker Peters rumour comes from our friend Alex Crook.

The reason he is still here is that we wanted a shed load of money for him in the summer and no one coughed up. He's got 18 months left  of his contract, so his value will be falling, but I can't see us now suddenly giving him away as he is so vital to our promotion hopes. West Ham or whoever else ain't getting him on the cheap in January.

Can't help thinking that WHam screwed us a bit on Prowsey's deal.       Looking at his season so far, he's certainly no worse than Declan Rice.

Since arriving JWP has been  MoM / or second highest in most games .    3 goals and  9 assists... so far and already a fan favourite with the Hammers. 

IF ... KWP  were to leave?  we ought to go all out for a decent fee (35-40 mill),  and Wham would have the best right-sided attack  in the Prem.

 

Danny Ings ..on loan? .   Why not, we've done dafter things . We know his injury record , but if we don't demand 90 mins. every game from him he' d be OK. 

Loads of experience and a good partner for Arma. ... and a guide for the likes of Edozie, Mara and Alcarez. 

 

IF.. we get a good fee for KWP (who like Prowsey deserves the highest level) then, a potential move for Downes and /or Johnson might balance the books.

 

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6 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Lol no pleasing some people his best season for us he was up with Kane and aguerro etc and practically golden boot winner (lost out only by not taking penalties) .. 

People love lambert and pelle but they where no where close to ings at his best 

He took one penalty that season and fluffed it after he did one of those stupid run ups. Would’ve equaled Vardy and shared the golden boot if not for that. Still annoys me that happened. 

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I would take him, assuming we couldn’t find another player with a better fitness record, but people talking about the one season in his career when he stayed fit and scored 22 goals really need to lower their expectations. He has fitness problems and if he ends up on loan in the Championship it’ll be for a very good reason.

That's a non point. We're a championship club and will only attract players willing to play at our level. Ings would be a superb player at our level. 

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