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January Transfer Window 2024

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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  On 31/01/2024 at 16:38, Osvaldorama said:

Head: fair play Alcaraz, quality move for all parties considering that he doesn’t fit RM’s style

Heart: gutted we won’t see him again this season (or ever). 
 

Will certainly be watching his career with interest. He has so much potential to be a top player. 

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That's why I'd be keen to keep him if we go back up. He has massive potential but the pressure on us to go up this season is huge, we can't have him giving the ball back to the opposition every few minutes whilst we wait for him to improve. 

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manji

manji

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  On 31/01/2024 at 14:32, Challenger said:

Can't help thinking that the lack of a creditable target man is going to cost us this season, just as it did last.

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Yeah but I’m sure Russell and his crew are very aware of that and there we be a plan . The pressure on SR to get us promoted is massive. The way we have thought things through so far has been brilliant just can’t see us not addressing the issue. TBF so far we’ve scored plenty from quite a few players. I know I’ve said it before still reckon Aribo will start contributing goals as well.

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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It interesting to compare forum comments about this transfer window to those of last year and before. There seems to be general agreement and understanding about what the club is doing this time around and even when people like Charlie go on loan, it's understandable and cover was brought in before he went. Compare that to the scatter gun approach of bringing in Tall Paul, Sulemana, Orsic and Charlie last year and the money thrown at youngsters in the 2022 summer and you think everything now is part of a plan.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 31/01/2024 at 18:08, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

It interesting to compare forum comments about this transfer window to those of last year and before. There seems to be general agreement and understanding about what the club is doing this time around and even when people like Charlie go on loan, it's understandable and cover was brought in before he went. Compare that to the scatter gun approach of bringing in Tall Paul, Sulemana, Orsic and Charlie last year and the money thrown at youngsters in the 2022 summer and you think everything now is part of a plan.

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Also the club have earnt trust by their actions. That was much harder to give them in the summer when the only evidence we had was their prior performance of fucking up. 

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LGTL

LGTL

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As a kid of the 90’s, it still feels very weird selling a player to Juventus. Especially one who can’t get in our team in the second division. 

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 31/01/2024 at 18:08, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

It interesting to compare forum comments about this transfer window to those of last year and before. There seems to be general agreement and understanding about what the club is doing this time around and even when people like Charlie go on loan, it's understandable and cover was brought in before he went. Compare that to the scatter gun approach of bringing in Tall Paul, Sulemana, Orsic and Charlie last year and the money thrown at youngsters in the 2022 summer and you think everything now is part of a plan.

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The difference for me is I have faith in the people making the decisions now. 

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VectisSaint

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  On 31/01/2024 at 19:48, Give it to Ron said:

Fingers crossed but guess Everton will want fee so hope that’s not much

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Makes sense, really doubted we would go forward with 6 loans, having to leave one out of the matchday squad every game. Did wonder whether Frazer might get converted to permanent but with Charles available to play CB at a push Holgate really is surplus to requirements.

egg

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:07, Monk said:

I’m basing this on absolutely nothing but I reckon we go back in for O’Hare.

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Can't see another midfielder coming in. I can only see it being a centre forward, if one of Mara or Adams leave. Assuming we lose Holgate, I'd expect to see a versatile defender who could give cover at full back and CB. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:13, egg said:

Can't see another midfielder coming in. I can only see it being a centre forward, if one of Mara or Adams leave. Assuming we lose Holgate, I'd expect to see a versatile defender who could give cover at full back and CB. 

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Would we need a cb in that circumstance? 

Bednarek, THB, Stephens and Charles at a pinch. 

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Juve forum is a right laugh at the moment, wondering who the fuck he is, he's an argie so he must be like vidal.and as long as he's better than Mckinnie and some other midfielder they are happy.

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/carlos-alcaraz.45231/page-1

They are also laughing at us so whoever mentioned Soule keep a low profile your ruining our reputation.

"had a good laugh when one of the big brains over there suggested Juve is gonna swap Soule for him next season."

"Did have to laugh at the "they'll include that Soule we've been linked to" comment. Presume they think they are going up, but even still. As someone who spends time on a Championship club forum I can tell you that there are some bizarre views and lack of knowledge of foreign teams and players. The fact they are going giddy over David Brooks signing is a sign of the position, he's a better Championship player."

 

 

egg

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:16, hypochondriac said:

Would we need a cb in that circumstance? 

Bednarek, THB, Stephens and Charles at a pinch. 

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It's the Charles at a pinch bit I don't like personally. I'd be comfortable with an embarrassment of options to help get us over the line. 

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Also the Juve director is the driving force behind this loan, he was the director at Napoli who tried to sign Charly from Racing but we offered more cash.

Let's see how everyones fav man manager Allegri acts when he's told to give him game time.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:32, egg said:

It's the Charles at a pinch bit I don't like personally. I'd be comfortable with an embarrassment of options to help get us over the line. 

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So would I but what cb option are you going to persuade to come here and be 4th cb backup or 3rd rb backup? 

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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Honestly that Juve forum is a right laugh, definitely going to be saving it and visiting it when he plays.

Read all 12 pages and basically they think fuck the loan is expensive for a player none of them heard of but the option fee is bloody high although they will never pay it.

They havent had a goalscorer from outside the box for ages which Charly does and seem overall happy for midfield competition with a talented player.

To be honest in my view Charly played better with better players, we saw that on sat with the subs, we saw that in the premier league and I would guess we will see it in Juve if Allegri ever plays him.

 

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:16, hypochondriac said:

Would we need a cb in that circumstance? 

Bednarek, THB, Stephens and Charles at a pinch. 

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Yes. An injury to Jan or THB and we're screwed, let alone losing both for whatever reason. We need a specialist 4th choice and if it isn't Holgate we'd need another IMO. 

Dusic

Dusic

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:07, Monk said:

I’m basing this on absolutely nothing but I reckon we go back in for O’Hare.

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Seems very unlikely because he is out of contract in the summer and surely better for him to wait and take his pick of options once he knows what league teams are in?

I would be amazed if anyone else comes in at this point. There isnt really a need for anyone unless Adams goes and his situation is the same as O'Hare and seems now that he will see out the season.

Holgate exit we can cover for and little point keeping an expensive player who won't even be named on the bench due to us having 6 loan players now.

For once our squad actually looks pretty balanced, with a very strong bench.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 31/01/2024 at 21:53, SNSUN said:

Yes. An injury to Jan or THB and we're screwed, let alone losing both for whatever reason. We need a specialist 4th choice and if it isn't Holgate we'd need another IMO. 

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Losing both first choice centre backs for an extended period would screw us even if Holgate was here. No one is going to sign for us to be 4th choice cb and possibly not even play. 

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Pwoite

Pwoite

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  On 31/01/2024 at 21:00, Convict Colony said:

Honestly that Juve forum is a right laugh, definitely going to be saving it and visiting it when he plays.

Read all 12 pages and basically they think fuck the loan is expensive for a player none of them heard of but the option fee is bloody high although they will never pay it.

They havent had a goalscorer from outside the box for ages which Charly does and seem overall happy for midfield competition with a talented player.

To be honest in my view Charly played better with better players, we saw that on sat with the subs, we saw that in the premier league and I would guess we will see it in Juve if Allegri ever plays him.

 

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You're saying their forum has a consensus view? Wow. I hadn't realised such things were possible.

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SaintNewForest

SaintNewForest

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If we lost, say, Bednarek to a long term injury and had to start using Holgate again regularly ... we'd have to sacrifice one of our other loans from the matchday squad. So we'd be fucked in multiple positions should that happen. 

Ideally he'd depart, but whose going to want to come in as 4th choice cente back? Tough gig. 

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Chewy

Chewy

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  On 31/01/2024 at 08:55, Chewy said:

Keeping on the theme of leftfield, I wonder if this move is in any way linked to a summer bid for Matias Soule should we go up?

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  On 31/01/2024 at 20:29, Convict Colony said:

They are also laughing at us so whoever mentioned Soule keep a low profile your ruining our reputation.

"had a good laugh when one of the big brains over there suggested Juve is gonna swap Soule for him next season."

"Did have to laugh at the "they'll include that Soule we've been linked to" comment. Presume they think they are going up, but even still. As someone who spends time on a Championship club forum I can tell you that there are some bizarre views and lack of knowledge of foreign teams and players. The fact they are going giddy over David Brooks signing is a sign of the position, he's a better Championship player."

 

 

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Sorry guys, my bad. Although it was more of a wondering out loud about a possibility, not a suggestion that it would happen.

I am one of our forum’s “big brains” though, so that’s nice. Wonder who the others are? Charlie Wayman for sure!

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 01/02/2024 at 08:30, Chewy said:

 

Sorry guys, my bad. Although it was more of a wondering out loud about a possibility, not a suggestion that it would happen.

I am one of our forum’s “big brains” though, so that’s nice. Wonder who the others are? Charlie Wayman for sure!

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It's an exclusive club ;)

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 31/01/2024 at 23:02, SaintNewForest said:

If we lost, say, Bednarek to a long term injury and had to start using Holgate again regularly ... we'd have to sacrifice one of our other loans from the matchday squad. So we'd be fucked in multiple positions should that happen. 

Ideally he'd depart, but whose going to want to come in as 4th choice cente back? Tough gig. 

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Personally, I'd like to see us use the Alcaraz money to make the Fraser move permenent then Holgate staying isn't an issue. 

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EBS1980

EBS1980

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  On 01/02/2024 at 08:49, hypochondriac said:

Personally, I'd like to see us use the Alcaraz money to make the Fraser move permenent then Holgate staying isn't an issue. 

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I think large portion of the loan fee is actually just to cover his wages as we are paying them in return for a higher loan fee.

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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Broja can leave for a £5m loan fee. That would be worth spending the Alcaraz money on if they'd let him drop a division/he'd want to come. 

I haven't heard anything on this BTW, just think it would be a good signing. 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 01/02/2024 at 09:46, Farmer Saint said:

Broja can leave for a £5m loan fee. That would be worth spending the Alcaraz money on if they'd let him drop a division/he'd want to come. 

I haven't heard anything on this BTW, just think it would be a good signing. 

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According to wiki he has 58 career appearances in the Premier League. It's a nice idea but I'd be almost certain that's a no on both counts.

coalman

coalman

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  On 01/02/2024 at 09:58, SaintsFan86 said:

Could see that happening if it meant getting Cresswell. 

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I think that Holgate to Leeds is the best for everyone concerned. Holgate gets game time. We get an expensive loan signing off our books. Leeds get a defender that's going to secure their playoff spot.

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