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January Transfer Window 2024

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FarehamSaintJames

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I’ve got to say, I’m pretty happy with the squad we’ve got.

Sam Edozie and Kamaldeen Sulemana will return soon will will give us a bit more depth out wide.

We’ve brought in an extra midfielder in Joe Rothwell.

I think I’d only be concerned if we lost a full back to injury. I note James Bree is currently out leaving only Ryan Manning and Kyle Walker-Peters, Mason Holgate could deputise (but not to the same level). I won’t even bother adding Jack Stephens as a deputy right-back based on the appearances I’ve seen him play in that position. 😂

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On 22/01/2024 at 21:12, Chez said:

no chance we get a fee. Doubt we have been looking for one. It's the wages that are are killer to any move. Doubt his next club ain't paying him as much as we are currently. Perhaps we could pay the difference for the last 6 months of his contract. He'll no doubt have a loyalty bonus coming his way if he sees out the contract too, so he wont be pushing for a move.

Makes the offer of that contact even more of a glaring blunder, especially as Fraser was better anyway. All in our blindness to good goalkeepers era/ Be good to get him out. Always a howler in him.

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27 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Would I want Armando Broja?

A striker who had a purple spell of maybe eight games mid season scoring a grand total of six league goals, and who has since had a major knee injury, all for just £35m, for a team that is desperate to sell in order not to get penalised for financial fair play?

You know what, I’ll give it a miss. 😅

Done as a THB style loan with an obligation to buy if promoted and I’d be all over it.

Bags of potential, looks perfectly fit whenever I see him, just needs a confidence boost of scoring goals.

And if Che Adams can score regularly for us I’m pretty sure Broja would manage to.

 

All a bit moot, though. I suspect Broja is in no rush to move given his contract, would only be looking at PL or larger European clubs … plus we’re maxed out on loans for the matchday squad.

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gio1saints

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13 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Done as a THB style loan with an obligation to buy if promoted and I’d be all over it.

Bags of potential, looks perfectly fit whenever I see him, just needs a confidence boost of scoring goals.

And if Che Adams can score regularly for us I’m pretty sure Broja would manage to.

 

All a bit moot, though. I suspect Broja is in no rush to move given his contract, would only be looking at PL or larger European clubs … plus we’re maxed out on loans for the matchday squad.

Yup, agree. 
Pre injury at Saints I personally thought he looked the real deal. Recall Frannie describing him as such. In a bad team dont forget. He’s got the right characteristics. 
But very very unlikely I’d guess. 

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1 hour ago, benali-shorts said:

21 year old Hungarian midfielder vaguely linked 

https://tbrfootball.com/exclusive-southampton-interested-in-21-year-old-international-midfielder-with-huge-potential/

Interesting last line in that article:

"It’s understood the club are also still trying to pursue, Kata’s former MTK Budapest teammate, Bojan Miovski, who has been in great form for Aberdeen this season."

 

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1 hour ago, DT said:

Makes the offer of that contact even more of a glaring blunder, especially as Fraser was better anyway. All in our blindness to good goalkeepers era/ Be good to get him out. Always a howler in him.

Sure. I understand how it happened - Ralph decided at that specific point in time that McCarthy was the better of the two keepers (and maybe he was at that particular moment) - but the decision looked a bad one almost straight away. It's water under the bridge now.  

That said, I am not sure why he hasn't been the number 2 this season. Perhaps he has another clause in his contract that guarantees him another year if he plays so many games and we didn't want that to ever be activated, hence signing Lumley. Or maybe we thought he was off, so got our replacement in (too) early. 

It will be interesting to see how other clubs value him. Could he still be a number 2 at a Prem side or maybe a number 3? Once that massive contract disappears there may be a lot more interest in his services. 

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1 hour ago, Chewy said:

Done as a THB style loan with an obligation to buy if promoted and I’d be all over it.

Bags of potential, looks perfectly fit whenever I see him, just needs a confidence boost of scoring goals.

And if Che Adams can score regularly for us I’m pretty sure Broja would manage to.

 

All a bit moot, though. I suspect Broja is in no rush to move given his contract, would only be looking at PL or larger European clubs … plus we’re maxed out on loans for the matchday squad.

I'd happily have him in our team but we couldn't afford Broja's wages when we were in the Premier league, so I can't see how we could do so now .....or indeed probably even if we get promoted.

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3 minutes ago, Ken Tone said:

I'd happily have him in our team but we couldn't afford Broja's wages when we were in the Premier league, so I can't see how we could do so now .....or indeed probably even if we get promoted.

18 months into a six year contract at Chelsea, which as you say, will include a bloody huge weekly wage.

I think if Ralph was still here, he might continue to push, but new manager won't have same connection.

Bloody shame we won't see anything of Stewart this year or know if he can make the step up. If we do go up, we will have Che out of contract, AA, who couldn't do it in the Prem, Mara, who hasn't really pushed his cause much this season and a guy with several long term injuries under his belt. Not ideal. Lots for us to talk about next summer though (hopefully).  

 

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40 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Interesting last line in that article:

"It’s understood the club are also still trying to pursue, Kata’s former MTK Budapest teammate, Bojan Miovski, who has been in great form for Aberdeen this season."

 

Aberdeen connection 👍🏻

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woodsaint1

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Has he not been injured for a while? Can hardly complain about a lack of gametime.

People can moan all they want at the club about this, but we've a winning squad right now and forcing a way into that is difficult. Also, we just have to accept that we're below Brighton in the footballing food chain right now

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Dusic

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Was clear he had something lined up as hadn't signed a new contract.

Just shows how hard it is to keep good talents, especially when you are either struggling in the PL or trying to get promoted - there is never a right time to play them!

JJM, Dibling (I know he came back) and Doyle all deciding to leave before making a league start.

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On 03/01/2024 at 21:04, Fabrice29 said:

I think he didn't want to sign one last year because he wanted evidence he would get game time this season. The injury has come at an awful time in that regard as now he's got a lot of work on to get into the side and doubt he'll sign one if he doesn't. Think it could just be unfortunate timing of events that lead to him leaving. Germany mentioned last season.

Yeah I called this a little while ago. Seemed inevitable and probably one that all sides couldn’t do much about. Victim of bad season last year when he wanted 1st team football (Same with JJM) and then the injury costing him when he was probably convinced to stay in the summer. Surprised it’s Brighton but don’t see how anyone can criticise him or the club here. Seemed like the club convinced him in the summer he’ll have an opportunity, the injury came and team is settled so unable to cater for young players who want a proper chance now (would suggest Dibling/Amo-Ayew etc are slightly younger and have more time on their hands). 

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Surely he has more chance of getting minutes at Saints than Brighton. That is just a token comment, he’s jumping to a better option (for now). It’s a shame we can’t build our team around the best youngsters we produce, it’s near impossible to keep them!

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1 minute ago, goodymatt said:

Surely he has more chance of getting minutes at Saints than Brighton. That is just a token comment, he’s jumping to a better option (for now). It’s a shame we can’t build our team around the best youngsters we produce, it’s near impossible to keep them!

He’ll go to Brighton probably for more cash and then go out on loan for his development.

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Something has been a bit off with him all season to be honest, I thought maybe he was frustrated at seeing the likes of Bragg, SAA, Dibling etc get involvement before him - but then I've just noticed he's been injured, so I'm not sure how he can be miffed at a lack of game time.

It's a strange move for him if it's playing time he wants, if we don't quite make it this year you'd see the likes of him, SAA, Dibling etc get much more first team involvement as we'd have to plan around young players. I'm not quite sure he's getting in Brighton's first team for many, many years. (unless they get relegated, which isn't beyond the realms of possible in the next few years)

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16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Something has been a bit off with him all season to be honest, I thought maybe he was frustrated at seeing the likes of Bragg, SAA, Dibling etc get involvement before him - but then I've just noticed he's been injured, so I'm not sure how he can be miffed at a lack of game time.

It's a strange move for him if it's playing time he wants, if we don't quite make it this year you'd see the likes of him, SAA, Dibling etc get much more first team involvement as we'd have to plan around young players. I'm not quite sure he's getting in Brighton's first team for many, many years. (unless they get relegated, which isn't beyond the realms of possible in the next few years)

To be fair they seem to have a far greater success with outbound loans than we do, so I am sure that will be in the plan for him.

Aside from Tella I can barely think of a loan move that has gone well for one of our academy players and that is a big issue as the gap between first team and PL2 is so big.

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15 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Something has been a bit off with him all season to be honest, I thought maybe he was frustrated at seeing the likes of Bragg, SAA, Dibling etc get involvement before him - but then I've just noticed he's been injured, so I'm not sure how he can be miffed at a lack of game time.

It's a strange move for him if it's playing time he wants, if we don't quite make it this year you'd see the likes of him, SAA, Dibling etc get much more first team involvement as we'd have to plan around young players. I'm not quite sure he's getting in Brighton's first team for many, many years. (unless they get relegated, which isn't beyond the realms of possible in the next few years)

He was miffed last season so the injury has got in the way of a resolution. Just unfortunate timing rather than anything being off. 

And there is plenty of evidence at Brighton you’ll get a chance if you’re good enough so criticising the lads choice to go there is odd. Less than 6 months on his contract, we want a fee and he wants to settle down with a pathway. Works for everyone. 

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54 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

He was miffed last season so the injury has got in the way of a resolution. Just unfortunate timing rather than anything being off. 

And there is plenty of evidence at Brighton you’ll get a chance if you’re good enough so criticising the lads choice to go there is odd. Less than 6 months on his contract, we want a fee and he wants to settle down with a pathway. Works for everyone. 

Going to Brighton is probably a good choice for him, it's those that go to Chelsea or the Manchester clubs I would always question as the chances a so limited.  Brighton are a good fit just like we were for a lot of kids when we were a mid table Premiership side, big enough to offer decent money but small enough that you will likely get a shot and with a record of selling to the big boys and not forcing players to stay.

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19 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

What’s with the obsession with midfielders? Surely there are more pressing needs than another one?

You can't just assume every link means that we're after them now. Clubs have plans afoot for the summer as well, dependant on what league we're in. If we fail this season then our midfield will look very threadbare when Downes and Rothwell return, and Armstrong's contract expires - so I'm sure the club are pretty focused on the CM area for the future, that doesn't mean we're getting them now.

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3 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

To be fair not much chance of him breaking through at the moment Fraser,sulemana,edozie,Arma ahead of him and Saa and diblimg and people still want us to sign benson. Pathway looks pretty blocked at the moment.

I'd be happy not to sign anyone else but the priority is promotion this year with no room for sentiment. If that means losing some youth players and giving them less chances then so be it. 

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Feels like he'd be a non-promotion signing rather than anything else mind.

Honestly don't feel like we need anybody in this window, even Benson's constant links don't feel particularly necessary to me although it obviously couldn't harm to have another body in.

Fraser has been such a revelation of a signing, alongside Sulemana and Edozie coming back and all we'd end up doing is pushing SAA further down the list which I feel is slightly unjust.

Fraser/Sulemana - Che/Mara - Arma/Edozie already feels a bit like an embarrassment of riches to me. 

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5 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

 

Someone of the responses to this are hilarious too.

He’s done very well at academy level, but then again so did Ryan Seager.

I see Jimmy-Jay Morgan is tearing it up at Chelsea…. He supposedly demanded £10K a week last January, and the club rightly told him to stuff it. Shows his intentions.

Bit of a non-story all in all.

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21 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Someone of the responses to this are hilarious too.

He’s done very well at academy level, but then again so did Ryan Seager.

I see Jimmy-Jay Morgan is tearing it up at Chelsea…. He supposedly demanded £10K a week last January, and the club rightly told him to stuff it. Shows his intentions.

Bit of a non-story all in all.

Yep. And Small came from Everton as the next best thing, but can't get a kick here. There are countless other examples. Good luck to the kid. 

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⚪️ Callum O’Hare: Burnley and Southampton monitoring #pusb playmaker who is out of contract in June and yet to sign deal offered.
Leicester also monitoring as are La Liga clubs.
Not impossible clubs move for him in Jan but summer feels best for him 

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24 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He’s a fine player.

Best rabbit related player name we’ve had since Christer Warren. If only Hassnhuttl had signed him

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