gio1saints Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 SFC to other team/ striker / agent “ we’d like to take xyz on loan for 6 months” We can match his salary or go halfsies if he’s a big shot. Perhaps even lob you a negotiable fee if you get this over the line. Agent to SFC : “ will he play?” SFC to OT/S/A : “ only if Che leaves to be honest “ Agent to SFC : “ so is Che leaving then?” SFC to OT/S/A : ” we do not know yet. Maybe. It might be a last minute thing. Agent to SFC “Yeah, gotcha, whatever, maybe, hear from you at 10pm on final day of the window then. Bye. Click…, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Well, he has scored some important goals for us this season He has, but any other striker would have scored far more important goals for us this season given the same opportunities. Not remotely fussed if he leaves this window so long as we can replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: He has, but any other striker would have scored far more important goals for us this season given the same opportunities. Not remotely fussed if he leaves this window so long as we can replace. Christ, the amount of goals he has fluffed. I mean, really! Open goals, scuffed shots, terrible headers. He is so bad it would be funny if he was elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: 3 Premier League clubs interested in Che Adams according to SSN. Probably Luton, Burnley and Sheff utd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Would be pretty gutting to lose Brooks to Leeds after they pipped us to Piroe in the summer. You would hope the fact that we are so close to Bournemouth might swing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Regarding Che, it's very likely that any replacement we get in would have to be replaced again in the summer if we did get promoted. It's likely we'd have to get a loan in and no guarantees they will be better. I'd keep him personally till the summer until we know where we are then he can go with our blessing. Expect we will get rid though if an acceptable bid comes in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Probably Luton, Burnley and Sheff utd Hmm, he might be reluctant to sign for any club who might pass us going in the opposite direction, unless they can afford to give him a 2/3 year contract, without a relegation clause.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 18 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: I wonder if one could be Bournemouth and there is something in the Brooks deal. Solanke is being linked with some big moves atm… Good preparation for the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 hours ago, Dusic said: No suprise of interest in Adams. To get 27yo homegrown striker with 3 years PL experience for a fee of less than £5m and sensible wages will suit a fair few. He also seems like a good egg and his injury/availability record is also very good. Who needs goals anyway? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 It must be a difficult time for Che. He'll be worried about his form, that is probably a contributing factor to snatching at chances. He's lost his place in the team as a starter. His contract is about to end, which means he is facing unemployment. His next contract is important for him and his family. 5 years of security, into his 30s. I know most fans don't care, they think footballers are loaded anyway. It's all about the club for them, but he's human as well. He should have moved to Scotland in the summer. They love him up there, he's a warrior and he'll be desperate to stay in the Scotland squad. We aren't getting better than Che, he's fit, a model professional, and for all his misses he also scores a few.We have nobody with his physical presence at the moment. Club should give him a one year extension and then see where we are in June. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 58 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Probably Luton, Burnley and Sheff utd Wolves, Everton and Crystal Palace according to SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric The Red Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Regarding Che, it's very likely that any replacement we get in would have to be replaced again in the summer if we did get promoted. It's likely we'd have to get a loan in and no guarantees they will be better. I'd keep him personally till the summer until we know where we are then he can go with our blessing. Expect we will get rid though if an acceptable bid comes in. Basically agree with Hypo about this. It's what constitutes an 'acceptable offer' is the big issue. I would say we need to net at least £5m in fee/saved wages to afford to get someone in (almost certainly on loan) who is at least Che's equal and who needs to make an impression, e.g. to secure a good contract or to get into their national team squad for the Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 with Ross Stewart out injured until the summer it seems (and no guarantee he will ever fully recover) don't we need another striker anyway - whether we sell Che Adams or not. Che Adams, Adam Armstrong and Seko Mara are all better as second strikers or wide forwards - what we really need is a centre forward which is what Ross Stewart was supposed to be if we have the money I'd be making a move for Bojan Mioviski from Aberdeen knowing that Adams will be off in the summer anyway leaving us with 4 strikers for next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Saint86 said: That isn't really a question for me - it's for the club and for the sell Che crowd. I wanted openda when he was about £8M 😭😂 I think he's an experienced lower prem level striker - and therefore a very good option as a squad striker in the championship. I have confidence he'll continue to score important goals between now and the end of the season. The reality is that top championship strikers / lower prem strikers go for circa £15-25M. It's doubtful we'll spend that and upset AA's role in the squad and the current balance to the side. More likely we'll take a punt on a lower quality Scottish player (or similar), an unoroven kid with potential, or a former league 1 player with a handful of goals at this level and a bad injury record... (based on SR's track record anyway 😂). Flipping the question, who do you want to replace him with (that you think is a reasonable target for a similar fee)? And are you confident that they'll hit the ground running and score the odd goals in tight games to win us the points that get us promoted? There are no certainties in football, but for £5-10M I have more confidence in Che than SR's attacking recruitment. Firstly, I thought we should sell in the summer. There were similar cries of "the money gained from promotion massively outweighs the £15m (now £5m) gained from selling him, so keep him and allow him to go on a free". Which is great, unless you don't get promoted! Besides, if we had sold him, we would have invested in another striker. League position wise, We'd be in the exact same situation as we are now, because Che aint done much. The difference is, we'd have a young £15m striker, possibly growing in value, not depreciating. That striker would be here next season too...without having to find £15m out if thin air. That ship has sailed. So, who can we get on loan for a £5m loan fee? Thats a very tough question. Decent strikers seem to be rare at all levels. I dont play champ manager, so the wider European net is not one I can dip into, but could Mumbamba from West Ham be an option? I am struggling to name anyone. So with that in mind, he probably will go nowhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, Chez said: Firstly, I thought we should sell in the summer. There were similar cries of "the money gained from promotion massively outweighs the £15m (now £5m) gained from selling him, so keep him and allow him to go on a free". Which is great, unless you don't get promoted! Besides, if we had sold him, we would have invested in another striker. League position wise, We'd be in the exact same situation as we are now, because Che aint done much. The difference is, we'd have a young £15m striker, possibly growing in value, not depreciating. That striker would be here next season too...without having to find £15m out if thin air. That ship has sailed. So, who can we get on loan for a £5m loan fee? Thats a very tough question. Decent strikers seem to be rare at all levels. I dont play champ manager, so the wider European net is not one I can dip into, but could Mumbamba from West Ham be an option? I am struggling to name anyone. So with that in mind, he probably will go nowhere. TBF whichever side of the fence you sat on it doesn't sound like there was much interest in Che during the summer. Think I recall there may have been rumours of Che going to B'mouth for 9M? 15M was never going to happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Give it to Ron said: With our record for the last 4 windows I wouldn’t trust them to even know what a fit striker looks like! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, OldNick said: And unlike Ross Stewart, at least she's fit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Chez said: Firstly, I thought we should sell in the summer. There were similar cries of "the money gained from promotion massively outweighs the £15m (now £5m) gained from selling him, so keep him and allow him to go on a free". Which is great, unless you don't get promoted! Besides, if we had sold him, we would have invested in another striker. League position wise, We'd be in the exact same situation as we are now, because Che aint done much. The difference is, we'd have a young £15m striker, possibly growing in value, not depreciating. That striker would be here next season too...without having to find £15m out if thin air. That ship has sailed. So, who can we get on loan for a £5m loan fee? Thats a very tough question. Decent strikers seem to be rare at all levels. I dont play champ manager, so the wider European net is not one I can dip into, but could Mumbamba from West Ham be an option? I am struggling to name anyone. So with that in mind, he probably will go nowhere. You seem very confident we would have bough yet another striker had Che been sold. Just like we were definitely replacing Tella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 hours ago, austsaint said: Yep, there would have to be a damn good replacement for Adams lined up before any modest sale price was agreed to. Will this guy do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Would be pretty gutting to lose Brooks to Leeds after they pipped us to Piroe in the summer. You would hope the fact that we are so close to Bournemouth might swing it. I think a lot of Leeds fans are gutted they pipped us to him as well - very underwhelmed with his contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Will this guy do? To be fair, bit more mobile/better finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, DT said: To be fair, bit more mobile/better finisher. A bit unfair, as Che leads the line and gives his all. Im amazed he still makes his runs, as he must get hacked off as hes running and then realises the ball has been passed sideways lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Would be pretty gutting to lose Brooks to Leeds after they pipped us to Piroe in the summer. You would hope the fact that we are so close to Bournemouth might swing it. yep, agreed. I think he'd be a perfect fit for us. Trying to be as well balanced as possible, I'd like to think we have a pretty good chance of landing him, if its down to the player. Wouldn't need to move, you'd imagine Fraser could / would put in a good word (assuming they have a decent relationship), very good chance of playing on a weekly basis, coached by Wilcox previously, clearly in with a chance of going up and fits the sort of player we'd sign if we went up. Martin seems to have decent 'people management'. I could only see it being down to money and us not offering as much as Leeds might (contribution of Bmouth). Guessing he'll know Stephens from last season as well...? Edited January 10 by Dman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, OldNick said: A bit unfair, as Che leads the line and gives his all. Im amazed he still makes his runs, as he must get hacked off as hes running and then realises the ball has been passed sideways lol Same for AA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft8saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Why haven't we sort our lack lustre performance in the transfer market???? we never seem to get deals done and end up doing bad business signing injured players or bad options who aren't fit enough to play in the starting 11. we have money to paly with lets be dominant in the market. As for Che Adams, i think he doesn't want to be here. as if he did he would have extended his contract. lets sell him for an acceptable figure 15m is to high for a player who scores some goals but not loads. \Lets get fraser on a permanent and get someone who isn't afraid to take some chances from outside of the 6yrd box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, 6ft8saint said: Why haven't we sort our lack lustre performance in the transfer market???? we never seem to get deals done and end up doing bad business signing injured players or bad options who aren't fit enough to play in the starting 11. we have money to paly with lets be dominant in the market. As for Che Adams, i think he doesn't want to be here. as if he did he would have extended his contract. lets sell him for an acceptable figure 15m is to high for a player who scores some goals but not loads. \Lets get fraser on a permanent and get someone who isn't afraid to take some chances from outside of the 6yrd box Bournemouth for some years have had a very good judge of a player, same as Brentford. We have had chancers and Stevie Wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, Dman said: Guessing he'll know Stephens from last season as well...? Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 13 minutes ago, OldNick said: A bit unfair, as Che leads the line and gives his all. Im amazed he still makes his runs, as he must get hacked off as hes running and then realises the ball has been passed sideways lol I'm amazed he still makes his runs as well - within 18 yards of the goal and he'll invariably pass it to their 'keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Would be pretty gutting to lose Brooks to Leeds after they pipped us to Piroe in the summer. You would hope the fact that we are so close to Bournemouth might swing it. Did they pip us to Piroe though? The only rumour that ever came of us being interested in him was sourced on this forum, and only because of the RM link, not a concrete article. 😂 A bit like Matt Grimes. And Nathan Wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, 6ft8saint said: Why haven't we sort our lack lustre performance in the transfer market???? we never seem to get deals done and end up doing bad business signing injured players or bad options who aren't fit enough to play in the starting 11. we have money to paly with lets be dominant in the market. As for Che Adams, i think he doesn't want to be here. as if he did he would have extended his contract. lets sell him for an acceptable figure 15m is to high for a player who scores some goals but not loads. \Lets get fraser on a permanent and get someone who isn't afraid to take some chances from outside of the 6yrd box We've been very close to a couple of deals but everytime we get close to signing a player they pass the pen backwards or sideways. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 31 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I think a lot of Leeds fans are gutted they pipped us to him as well - very underwhelmed with his contribution. That wasn't the point I was making. I'd rather not lose out on a player we want more than once to a direct rival. Am hoping we'd swing it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Turkish said: We've been very close to a couple of deals but everytime we get close to signing a player they pass the pen backwards or sideways. More aggression and front footedness needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Did they pip us to Piroe though? The only rumour that ever came of us being interested in him was sourced on this forum, and only because of the RM link, not a concrete article. 😂 A bit like Matt Grimes. And Nathan Wood. Lots of reports at the time that we were interested. Supposedly chose Leeds because they wanted him more. Not that it matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 18 minutes ago, OldNick said: Bournemouth for some years have had a very good judge of a player, same as Brentford. We have had chancers and Stevie Wonder Some of the club songs were decent though. "I just called to say... can I pay over the odds for your crocked players?" 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 45 minutes ago, OldNick said: A bit unfair, as Che leads the line and gives his all. Im amazed he still makes his runs, as he must get hacked off as hes running and then realises the ball has been passed sideways lol Lol he's one of the least mobile/anticipatory strikers we've had in decades. If the ball comes in from wide, you can guarantee 9 times out of 10 that Che will be on his heels wondering what happened. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 27 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That wasn't the point I was making. I'd rather not lose out on a player we want more than once to a direct rival. Am hoping we'd swing it anyway. But if they're not very good, and get game time ahead of better players, surely that's a good thing to let our rivals have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Farmer Saint said: But if they're not very good, and get game time ahead of better players, surely that's a good thing to let our rivals have them? It might be that he doesn't suit their system. The point is not looking at things with hindsight and then suggesting that losing out on our targets is a good thing. I want to see us landing the targets we want because it gives us the best chance of promotion. Like I said though, I would hope in this case we would have the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Jack Clarke linked on facebook link thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Jack Clarke linked on facebook link thingy Realistically why would they allow him to depart to a direct rival midway through the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 22 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Jack Clarke linked on facebook link thingy He'd be a fantastic signing but there are Prem clubs interested so he'll not be joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: You seem very confident we would have bough yet another striker had Che been sold. My guess is that Stewart was the replacement and despite Che deal falling through we went ahead anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Did they pip us to Piroe though? The only rumour that ever came of us being interested in him was sourced on this forum, and only because of the RM link, not a concrete article. 😂 A bit like Matt Grimes. And Nathan Wood. Good point, just lots of lazy links. However, Nathan Wood was different as we actually made a £10m bid for him according to several newspapers, so that interest felt pretty concrete. I wonder how he has faired this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, saintant said: He'd be a fantastic signing but there are Prem clubs interested so he'll not be joining us. He didn't look like a Prem player in the cup game at the weekend. He was poor. Only one game though I guess. I think a lot of Prem sides will be looking, but buying is a different matter. I suspect a promoted side might buy him next summer, assuming Sunderland don't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: It might be that he doesn't suit their system. The point is not looking at things with hindsight and then suggesting that losing out on our targets is a good thing. I want to see us landing the targets we want because it gives us the best chance of promotion. Like I said though, I would hope in this case we would have the edge. It's only hindsight if you didn't call it at the time. I am also calling DB a bust as well. He's nowhere near the player he was. Edited January 10 by Farmer Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chez said: Good point, just lots of lazy links. However, Nathan Wood was different as we actually made a £10m bid for him according to several newspapers, so that interest felt pretty concrete. I wonder how he has faired this season. We didn't want Piroe - RM said early in the window that he was too similar to AA. A lot of posters on here seem to ignore this over and over again. Edited January 10 by Farmer Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibster Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Make of it what you will but Danny Ings overtook me heading north on the M3 J12 earlier today. Ok he was probably just down visiting family or friends but I guess it's equally possible that he was finalising his loan move to saints.... (please accept this as the tongue-in-cheek comment that was intended! 🤣). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, Chez said: He didn't look like a Prem player in the cup game at the weekend. He was poor. Only one game though I guess. I think a lot of Prem sides will be looking, but buying is a different matter. I suspect a promoted side might buy him next summer, assuming Sunderland don't make it. Martin has basically said we can’t even make Fraser permanent at the moment .. so I think that rules out us splashing money on the likes of Clarke .. think we will be looking only at loans this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 13 minutes ago, sibster said: Make of it what you will but Danny Ings overtook me heading north on the M3 J12 earlier today. Ok he was probably just down visiting family or friends but I guess it's equally possible that he was finalising his loan move to saints.... (please accept this as the tongue-in-cheek comment that was intended! 🤣). Sounds like he is West Ham’s only fit striker at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 24 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Sounds like he is West Ham’s only fit striker at the moment. West Ham fans not too keen on Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: It's only hindsight if you didn't call it at the time. I am also calling DB a bust as well. He's nowhere near the player he was. It's not about how we personally feel about players. I want the club to get the players that they deem to be good enough because they are more likely to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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