Master Bates Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 (edited) West Ham apparently willing to sell Ben Johnson in January with Saints still sniffing. Edited 21 October, 2023 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Didnt know he was with them, getting on a bit but wonder if he still has his pace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Not for me - he's a bit dopey 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 If Adams goes (last chance to get some cash) then we need another forward. Otherwise aside from maybe LB cover I don't see much happening unless we have an injury crisis. Again, keeping KWP will be huge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Adams out, can’t see us bringing anyone in unless others leave or we get a serious injury crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dusic said: If Adams goes (last chance to get some cash) then we need another forward. Otherwise aside from maybe LB cover I don't see much happening unless we have an injury crisis. Again, keeping KWP will be huge. Agree with this. A replacement for Che and a left back are certainly required. I wonder if the club will go back in for Patrick Roberts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 16 minutes ago, Dusic said: If Adams goes (last chance to get some cash) then we need another forward. Otherwise aside from maybe LB cover I don't see much happening unless we have an injury crisis. Again, keeping KWP will be huge. Agree, KWP is class and it would be great to keep him. Much prefer him at Right Back but can see him being moved to LB to cover for Mannings suspension> Question is will Holgate or Bree fit in at RB? There is a suggestion that Taylor-Bellis may be rested for the Preston game with Holgate or Charles as the replacement which may well unsettle the back four. Hopefully Ross Stewart will be available soon thereby allowing the disappointing Che Adams to leave in January for a reduced fee, Perhaps use any available cash to bring in a decent left back as Ryan Manning has been disappointing and Larios seems forever injured. Shame Peraud was allowed to leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Would love to get a CDM in. Charles is the only natural number 6 in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Given that Martin said we were going to replace Tella after Fraser had already joined and we missed out on Roberts and Paintsil at the end, possibly a wide man incoming? Roberts will be in the final six months of his contract in January. Although, Jack Clarke’s the wide player I’d go for at Sunderland, would cost a fair bit more though. I was desperate for us to keep Adams in the summer, but he has been hopeless since the window ended. I’d say sell him, but I doubt anyone’s going to offer much for him in January given his recent performances. The only concrete links in the summer were Everton haggling over pennies and a Wolves loan deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 41 minutes ago, Turkish said: Adams out, can’t see us bringing anyone in unless others leave or we get a serious injury crisis Bet you adams goes out on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Isn't our Adams replacement currently recovering from injury and back in training ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Amad Diallo was a name we were linked to. Could we go back in for him? Or is he injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Bet you adams goes out on loan. Could do. one of those deals like Cedric where we get a decent loan fee and they go someone until their contract runs out alrhough one of the bottom six might take a gamble on him Edited 21 October, 2023 by Turkish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Could do. one of those deals like Cedric where we get a decent loan fee and they go someone until their contract runs out alrhough one of the bottom six might take a gamble on him Maybe Turkish, he’s been so off the pace lately I can’t see saints getting the necessary fee. Hopefully he turns it around in meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 Need a quality LB, and need serious cover (and/or long term replacement) for KWP. Downes has really stepped up recently, so with him and Charles i think we're solid in CM, but we still need a more lethal output up top. So for me, the must buys are a LB and a CF, and i would be going out and getting proper RWB cover for KWP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 Wouldn't we be looking to loan Mara out too? Hasn't happened for him here and may benefit from a loan to France. Would rather a perm, but can realistically only see a loan. Provided we could get replacement squad player, may be best for both parties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 21 hours ago, Miltonaggro said: Maybe Turkish, he’s been so off the pace lately I can’t see saints getting the necessary fee. Hopefully he turns it around in meantime. I've not seen a noticeable dip in Turkish's posting recently. It's a relentless Championship posting schedule and some days are going to be better than others. Harsh to think of us selling him on to another forum, never mind for less than his valuation price. 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 13 hours ago, Saint Mikey said: Wouldn't we be looking to loan Mara out too? Hasn't happened for him here and may benefit from a loan to France. Would rather a perm, but can realistically only see a loan. Provided we could get replacement squad player, may be best for both parties. Sam Gallagher out of contract in the summer 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 At a guess; Out: Adams KWP Sulumana Aribo S Armstrong In: A winger Replacement for whoever we sell 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 We have the best squad in the Championship so we might as well lock this thread now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 My guesses are: Fairly confident; Depending on RS form- Che to leave on loan or sale to a bottom six EPL club. Ditto possibly Mara same if someone EPL or Ligue un in need of a possible rough diamond up front. Just guessing optimistically : Depending on league position ( if we are in play off spots or not basically) 1. Saints to resist selling KWP to EPL for anything below £25m. 2. Saints to resist letting Charlie go for anything below £25m. 3. Saints to resist letting KS for anything below £40m. Bids above those figures for our players I think they will be sold. Bids below I have fingers crossed we resist. 4. A random young French speaking winger / striker and an old hand FB brought in on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 3 hours ago, gio1saints said: 3. Saints to resist letting KS for anything below £40m. Seriously?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Hopefully we only sell Adams (I think a move away is best for all parties if he isn't committed, and let's face it we won't particularly miss him). Mara had a decent-ish cameo against Hull, looked lively anyway, I'd like to see him get more opportunities up front instead of Adams. Selling KWP/Sulemana/anyone else of value would be a disgraceful act of self-harm. I don't think the squad will need too much to add to it but if we can strengthen then we should go for it. But let's save our cash for the summer when hopefully we'll be in a higher league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Sulemana is a tough one, has shown he can be devastating when taking on a hapless FB, but end product still missing. Edozie is solid cover so I reckon he'll be sold around £20m probably. A lot will depend on who has the cash. Adams will have suitors as he'll be cheap. Plus the lad needs to get his career back on track. A fresh start required. I suspect KWP will be in demand, a lot depends on Saints's prospects in January. One hopeful factor in all this, is that Tino and Lavia aren't seeing any football. That may put a small seed of doubt in some minds.. Of course in contrast JWP has really kicked on, but he always was going to. Plus at some point these youngsters we are buying have to start playing. I agree with others it will be quiet, but if serious money is offered for any player I can't see SR turning it down. The longer Saints stay in the Championship the more this will be the case. Got to get put of here sharpish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 14 hours ago, macca155 said: One hopeful factor in all this, is that Tino and Lavia aren't seeing any football. That may put a small seed of doubt in some minds.. Of course in contrast JWP has really kicked on, but he always was going to. Any seed of doubt is quite quickly extinguished when they see their payslip. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 16 hours ago, macca155 said: Sulemana is a tough one, has shown he can be devastating when taking on a hapless FB, but end product still missing. Edozie is solid cover so I reckon he'll be sold around £20m probably. A lot will depend on who has the cash. Adams will have suitors as he'll be cheap. Plus the lad needs to get his career back on track. A fresh start required. I suspect KWP will be in demand, a lot depends on Saints's prospects in January. One hopeful factor in all this, is that Tino and Lavia aren't seeing any football. That may put a small seed of doubt in some minds.. Of course in contrast JWP has really kicked on, but he always was going to. Plus at some point these youngsters we are buying have to start playing. I agree with others it will be quiet, but if serious money is offered for any player I can't see SR turning it down. The longer Saints stay in the Championship the more this will be the case. Got to get put of here sharpish Last couple of games I thought Sulemana has done well - produced some good crosses but our other forwards have been too slow to take advantage. I think against Hull there were three good crosses that would have looked better if someone gambled and went near post. Hopefully Ross Stewart can do that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 Can’t sell KWP in January. Not many teams in world football sell a star and probably their best player in the January window. We know how awful it is for buying good players from recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 1 hour ago, HarvSFC said: Can’t sell KWP in January. Not many teams in world football sell a star and probably their best player in the January window. We know how awful it is for buying good players from recent years. But this is Southampton don't forget! We sell better than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 3 hours ago, HarvSFC said: Can’t sell KWP in January. Not many teams in world football sell a star and probably their best player in the January window. We know how awful it is for buying good players from recent years. I could only see us selling KWP in January if promotion is as good as off the cards (which it won't be because the championship is so tight). Obviously he will go in the summer if we don't go back up. If we do, I do wonder whether he will sign a new deal or not. I think he still appreciates that we gave him a chance after his career was stalling at Spurs, maybe it will depend on the club's ambition in the summer window. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 I have a worrying feeling we'll lose Sulemana, I just hope we get good money for him. I am pleased he's got his head down and is playing well but I think if someone comes in for him at the right price, he'll go. KWP won't have gone unnoticed either but I really hope we can hold on to him as he's virtually irreplaceable with his form this season - I don't see Bree or Holgate stepping up to do the same job. I feel like Adams will go but bar maybe Aribo or Mara, I don't see anyone else leaving. Ins? Another striker would be nice if we lose Adams and/or Mara and I'd still be tempted to strengthen LB, CB and possibly CM but I think movement will be minimal overall. Thing is, one or two good signings (like Sharp and to a lesser extent Lee in our promotion season ) could make all the difference later in the season when our lot have tired legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 Watching Leicester v Sunderland tonight I can see why we wanted Patrick Roberts. He’s been great this evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 (edited) I'd put a cheeky one in for Liam Delap if Adams goes Edited 24 October, 2023 by ally_uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, HarvSFC said: Can’t sell KWP in January. Not many teams in world football sell a star and probably their best player in the January window. We know how awful it is for buying good players from recent years. He plays like he’s on cheat mode brah, man is cooking in the championship. My top G is sick Edited 25 October, 2023 by Turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 10 hours ago, InvictaSaint said: Watching Leicester v Sunderland tonight I can see why we wanted Patrick Roberts. He’s been great this evening. I want Tony Mowbray. He's done a fantastic job there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 12 hours ago, SNSUN said: I have a worrying feeling we'll lose Sulemana, I just hope we get good money for him. I am pleased he's got his head down and is playing well but I think if someone comes in for him at the right price, he'll go. KWP won't have gone unnoticed either but I really hope we can hold on to him as he's virtually irreplaceable with his form this season - I don't see Bree or Holgate stepping up to do the same job. I feel like Adams will go but bar maybe Aribo or Mara, I don't see anyone else leaving. Ins? Another striker would be nice if we lose Adams and/or Mara and I'd still be tempted to strengthen LB, CB and possibly CM but I think movement will be minimal overall. Thing is, one or two good signings (like Sharp and to a lesser extent Lee in our promotion season ) could make all the difference later in the season when our lot have tired legs. I agree, it will be in summer when the best of the rest will go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 10 hours ago, ally_uk said: I'd put a cheeky one in for Liam Delap if Adams goes Didn't think he was that impressive on Saturday, despite his goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 1 hour ago, Dman said: I want Tony Mowbray. He's done a fantastic job there. 24 hours earlier you labelled Martin as "a manager who has no track record of being anything other than bang average". Are you looking for a bang below average manager for us??!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 1 hour ago, notnowcato said: 24 hours earlier you labelled Martin as "a manager who has no track record of being anything other than bang average". Are you looking for a bang below average manager for us??!! Give up nipper. You're making yourself silly now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dman said: Give up nipper. You're making yourself silly now. If you say so, I'll await tomorrow's contradiction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 13:33, Saint86 said: Need a quality LB, and need serious cover (and/or long term replacement) for KWP. Downes has really stepped up recently, so with him and Charles i think we're solid in CM, but we still need a more lethal output up top. So for me, the must buys are a LB and a CF, and i would be going out and getting proper RWB cover for KWP. Agreed. We have cover of sorts at RB, but nothing at LB. It'll be interesting to see who plays there tonight. I'm expecting KWP at LB with Bree (probably) at RB which will disrupt us. Meghoma could be given a go, but I doubt it. Another CF depends on what happens with the new bloke but assuming he can come in soon and stay fit, I'd like to see another come in and Mara moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 4 hours ago, Dman said: I want Tony Mowbray. He's done a fantastic job there. I'm not sure I'm at that stage (yet!) but Sunderland were impressive last night. They gave Leicester a right go, and on another day could have drawn or even won. Some of their passing and movement was a pleasure to watch - quick and incisive. They just didn't have somebody with enough composure in front of goal. They're a young side, though, and if they keep progressing as they have done then they will be there or thereabouts. I'm hoping we will evolve into what I saw last night - it really was enjoyable to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 5 hours ago, Dman said: I want Tony Mowbray. He's done a fantastic job there. Might even have been interested in us last summer, there were reports that Sunderland were looking elsewhere. Proper, solid, unpretentious manager, whose teams try to play attractive football. Unfortunately no beard, no "system" to implement, or part time knitwear model on his CV. Just not 'hip' enough for our decisionmakers. Rasmus knows best. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Out - Fuck knows In - Anyone Martin has previously played with / managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 October, 2023 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) Young goalkeeper Ally Graham to have a 2nd trial. First trial was in April. Edited 25 October, 2023 by Master Bates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 5 hours ago, egg said: Agreed. We have cover of sorts at RB, but nothing at LB. It'll be interesting to see who plays there tonight. I'm expecting KWP at LB with Bree (probably) at RB which will disrupt us. Meghoma could be given a go, but I doubt it. Another CF depends on what happens with the new bloke but assuming he can come in soon and stay fit, I'd like to see another come in and Mara moved on. Any idea whats going on with Larios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Any idea whats going on with Larios? I read on here that he was injured. Meghoma has been the u21 LB so I'd assume he'd be the one we turn to if we're desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 51 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Any idea whats going on with Larios? Injured long term in training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 October, 2023 Share Posted 26 October, 2023 16 hours ago, Saint86 said: Any idea whats going on with Larios? He was on the comeback trail from his long-term injury, but then picked up a new long-term injury in training. They don't think he'll be back before next spring. Feel for the lad, but he doesn't seem cut out for the physical nature of men's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 October, 2023 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2023 Scouts were at Brondby v Nordsjaelland watching Nicolai Vallys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 October, 2023 Share Posted 30 October, 2023 1 hour ago, Master Bates said: Scouts were at Brondby v Nordsjaelland watching Nicolai Vallys. Is he related to Welsh Vallys ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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